michalmarek77
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No matter how great your pc rig is, I:SS still looks impressive - and probably is the most impressive looking game today.
Dat PS4 power. Magnificent
Dat PS4 power. Magnificent
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Digital Foundry: Performance analysis: inFamous: Second Son
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Because the 256 mb of video RAM was absolutely brutal for open world games. Ask Rockstar, Bethesda, Volition, and Sucker Punch. The 360 versions of their games (excluding Sucker Punch) shows how weak as shit the PS3 hardware was for open world.
People crown Naughty Dog as king when they really selected the genres best suited to the PS3 hardware.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Do not look at spoiler if you did not finished InFamous second sonHonestly the visuals of Infamous 2 weren't a strong point. They weren't terrible but I wouldn't consider them great. I know it's open world but it does look a lot like a PS2 game.
the first pic look a lot like the last boss from Second Son.
lightchris
Member
You may like it better in terms of art design, but the GoW collection is objectively very far behind in terms of poly count, texture resolution, lighting and so on.
I could be wrong, but weren't ND themselves plus some other ICE team members drafted in to help sucker punch improve the engine post inFamous to produce the noticeably better efforts in inFamous 2?
I suspect that from a pure technical programming aspect ND remain Sony's top studio, perhaps only matched by Santa Monica. Sucker Punch have really delivered with Second Son though - its definitely best best IQ next gen game and has really great performance too.
One things for sure - with so many top performing studios you can argue which is best technically if nothing else the PS4 is sure going to see some amazing games going forward.
You have to wonder how much Sucker Punch, for example, could further optimize and tune the engine from where it is now? They've already got a terrific engine that doesn't drop below 30fps with fantastic IQ and the ability to render a detailed open world - and they probably started the design/development when PS4 was going to be 4GB so I've no doubt further tuning/optimization will be possible going forward.
GTA V ran better on the PS3.
What now ? Infamous 2 didn't look good now ? 
Talking about Infamous SS ...
I'm not here to insult anyone, but please, don't say the visuals of Infamous SS is nothing special otherwise you will lose any credibility for the future, when we talk about other games.
I agree with some opinions, but there are some facts that should be taken into consideration before leaving negative comments ... I mean, the visual isn't perfect or the frame rate isn't rocksolid or things like that, but I can't believe you are not amazed by the whole visuals of this game ...
Talking about Infamous SS ...
I'm not here to insult anyone, but please, don't say the visuals of Infamous SS is nothing special otherwise you will lose any credibility for the future, when we talk about other games.
I agree with some opinions, but there are some facts that should be taken into consideration before leaving negative comments ... I mean, the visual isn't perfect or the frame rate isn't rocksolid or things like that, but I can't believe you are not amazed by the whole visuals of this game ...
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Infamous was the first "WOW" for me this generation.
It actually surpassed my expectations.
It actually surpassed my expectations.
dark_prinny
Banned
This game doesn´t cease to impress. Beautiful game. Lighting is from another world and this is just a game in the PS4 newborn life cycle. Greatness Awaits, indeed.
That doesn't disprove the fact that open world games on PS3 took the most work of all the genres.
you said "Ask Rockstar".
There was a thread on it already. Interesting stuff.
I hope their GDC slides aren't locked in GDCVault. Waiting for that to open up.
psychotron
Member
I'm usually not one to freak over frame judder, but I've also never noticed it as much as I do here. It's the oddest thing because in combat the game feels smooth as silk, yet when just running down a street I get these frame hiccups that feel like when you would get a checkpoint in Halo. It feels like the game pauses for a tenth of a second to save/load, but happens every 5 seconds.
Honestly the visuals of Infamous 2 weren't a strong point. They weren't terrible but I wouldn't consider them great. I know it's open world but it does look a lot like a PS2 game.
Your hyperbolic statement doesn't fit the screenshots you linked.
davidbloop
Member
Second Son is an amazing looking game, I personally don't understand how anyone could downplay it as much as I've been reading in this thread without some type of agenda or eye damage.
SolidSnakex
Member
Saints Row The Third also ran better on the PS3. That's what made it all the more bizarre that SR4 is a complete disaster on the platform.
So? Ask them. They'll probably agree. Open world games were a bitch to pull off on PS3. Not sure what you're saying here.
Red Dead Redemption was inferior on PS3. Just because it was "possible" to make an open world game that ran great on PS3, even if it ran better than 360, doesn't mean it wasn't a bitch-and-a-half to pull off.
Bright-Light
Member
No need for a good optician, your eyes are beyond saving, probably for the best if you just rip them out of their sockets and stamp on them.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
You really need to go get your eyes checked, you're probably going blind.
Undoubtedly one of the best looking games I've ever played, and certainly the best-looking console game. Shadowfall would be just about neck-and-neck, but I've got a soft spot for the present-day Seattle thing Second Son has going on.
I think I understand what people mean in regards to the stuttering, but I'm almost finished the main storyline and I've never found myself bothered by it. If anything I've been continually impressed at how smoothly everything runs, even when the action hots up. The IQ is ludicrous, and the only significant chink in the armor I've noticed is the way shadows split into higher or lower quality versions as you approach them.
Ha, I kinda blundered into that one too. Pretty much my own fault though, I should really avoid all spoiler tags in Second Son threads until I've finished the story.
I think I understand what people mean in regards to the stuttering, but I'm almost finished the main storyline and I've never found myself bothered by it. If anything I've been continually impressed at how smoothly everything runs, even when the action hots up. The IQ is ludicrous, and the only significant chink in the armor I've noticed is the way shadows split into higher or lower quality versions as you approach them.
Ha, I kinda blundered into that one too. Pretty much my own fault though, I should really avoid all spoiler tags in Second Son threads until I've finished the story.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Honestly the visuals of Infamous 2 weren't a strong point. They weren't terrible but I wouldn't consider them great. I know it's open world but it does look a lot like a PS2 game.
These look a PS2 game to you?
MidgarBlowedUp
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SolidSnakex
Member
I believe Hulk Ultimate Destruction was generally viewed as the best superhero game from that gen, and this is what it looked like
Pound_lb003
Member
I'd agree with this precisely. Had RDR been 720p on the PS3 I'd have added that in there too.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Infamous 2...like a PS2 game?
WHAT?!
I...
WHAT!?
WHAT?!
I...
WHAT!?
In these pics, are those supposed to be leaves on the ground? Everything else looks great, but those just look out of place.
thunder_snail
Member
The fact that people are comparing an open world game to linear games is the proof that Sucker Punch did an amazing job.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Rogue Leader was far surpassed by Rebel Strike.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
It is definitely the best looking game on any platform. My mind is truly blown by it. I said this in the screens thread but it looks like a moving bullshot.
I thought I2 was actually one of the more impressive games from an open world perspective.
The thing that dragged it down for me were the low res alpha effects but it is very impressive visually, and I'm surprised more people don't think so.
It doesn't even look in the realm of PS2 games.
The thing that dragged it down for me were the low res alpha effects but it is very impressive visually, and I'm surprised more people don't think so.
It doesn't even look in the realm of PS2 games.
Orniletter
Banned
"Looks like a PS2 game " is the new " looks like a N64 game"
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I always thought I2 was a great looking game. It was also a massive step up from Infamous 1 which was so ugly.
jacksepticeye
Member
It's true what they say, people remember old games in HD lol
Infamous 2 is far far better than any PS2 game
Infamous 2 is far far better than any PS2 game
AgentOtaku
Member
At least it doesn't stutter though when panning slowly ala KZ:SF
That was one of the first things I checked actually and I1/I2 where the same way.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
It was sound technically, but a somewhat uninspired art directions dragged it down. They've corrected that in spades here. This game not only looks amazing in terms of tech and art direction, but it looks somehow different than anything - they've found their own visual language with it basically.
If you read my post carefully you'll understand: an 8800 series card did not last an entire gen playing console ports maxed out at 60 fps with all the whizbang visuals on. It got worse and worse as time went on... so when people try to act as if one card is enough for a whole gen, its very misleading and just a silly thing to say. You continually have to upgrade if you want to run console ports maxed out at 60 fps.
The statement that I2 looks like a PS2 game is so utterly incompetent it doesn't need any sort of validation via response. Let trolls be trolls and ignore the idiocy.
Ken Masters
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Honestly the visuals of Infamous 2 weren't a strong point. They weren't terrible but I wouldn't consider them great. I know it's open world but it does look a lot like a PS2 game.
Please show me the PS2 equivalent, I'm waiting
And it was a really good looking PS3 game, especially being open world . Infamous SS is currently the best looking game I've ever played
1080p/30FPS open-world with good effects on a $400 machine? SS looks very impressive.
This generation we have games that are already doing 1080p on PS4. PC graphics cards aren't suddenly going to become worse than what consoles are outputting.
....who was making the point that a 8800 maxes out games? It still performs on-par/better than the 360/PS3 (1280x720+ at low to high settings). It didn't get "worse". Our standards got higher (1080p).
This generation we have games that are already doing 1080p on PS4. PC graphics cards aren't suddenly going to become worse than what consoles are outputting.
Honestly the visuals of Infamous 2 weren't a strong point. They weren't terrible but I wouldn't consider them great. I know it's open world but it does look a lot like a PS2 game.
I don't even... Wait.... What?
PS2 game?
It was one of the prettiest games on ps3.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
His point was that early on when it was out, you could max out current console games at 1080p/60/more effects using 8800, but later on in the following years, you couldn't. I'm not sure if the initial assessment (of ever being able to max out console games at 1080p/60) is true, but it's definitely true that you couldn't max out games later on like that with just 8800, probably not even if you keep effects consistent between the platforms by choosing Medium setting on PC or something like that.
aY227
Member
And why would it? Maxed out settings are not console like settings, they are made with the highest end PC in mind at the time of release, sometimes even for SLI/Crossfire configurations.
You really need to think out what are You claiming.
And no, no one said that You can buy today a GPU and maxed out every single game in 5-6 years, but You will be able to play those games in 60fps on consoles settings or even higher without a problem and thats the whole point.
More like low settings and yes You could as i showed earlier with BF 4 video example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtXRKUj_fGc
900p, 40 fps average and medium settings [console versions are running low].
There are tons of other examples on the internet, like Mass Effect 3 or Crysis 2 running at 1080p in 30+fps on 8800 GT on higher settings than console quality or BF 3 running at 60fps in 720p in 64 multiplayer matches etc
Solid Samus
Banned
I mean, I love the game and its look, but no it's not the best looking video game on the market visually. It's sure as hell up there