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Rumor: Rainbow 6 Patriots has been redesigned from the ground up three times
- Thread starter Nirolak
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It was revealed in December 2011 Game Informer.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
More red flags than all of China with this game.
Sucks too, because the concept trailer released a few years ago was really cool.
Sucks too, because the concept trailer released a few years ago was really cool.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
TIL Rainbow Six is still a thing. Why is this still a thing?
NYCmetsfan
Banned
Brand Recognition
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 was released March 2008 (6 years ago) so it's likely been in development since at least then.
Surely a decline though means a game series that gradually got a lot worse ? Whilst I'm not a huge fan of the direction they've gone in Rainbow Six Vegas and Vegas 2 weren't exactly bad games. I'm just wondering why they don't keep going in that direction and why it's been redesigned 3 times.
Sometimes I'm astonished that Ubisoft can get Assassin's Creed out the door every year, sometimes with large scale changes, but they try to release Rainbow Six or a racing game and just implode.
I watched those dev videos for Far Cry 3, and they had some of the most immaculate streamlined production pipelines I have ever seen in the industry.
Count me astonished as well.
I think Red Storm is on this project as well along with Toronto.
They're just support studios.
CarbonRevenge
Banned
I think Ubisoft is just so used to being in that safety net where they can control the outcome of their products much better especially if it's something they produce annually. It doesn't require much serious thinking and alot of the stuff they need to make the game is pretty much set for the most part. It's the most risk averse company ever.
It'd be nice if they got out of the whole Assassins Creed/Far Cry formula and try to actually do more than that but I don't think any single studio owned by them would have the creative might to create something wholly unique and formula breaking. They're too comfortable with taking in that money from what they know best.
VeryGooster
Banned
Maybe they just merged it with the division
It didn't seem crazy to me at the time around E3 2013 the idea that they just said screw it and put their resources into The Division.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
I think the window for the story of homegrown terrorists going after the banks has passed.
Which sucks, because that would have been a very cool story to follow, but too much time has passed and I don't think it will have it's impact anymore.
Maybe that's why it got rebooted initially?
Which sucks, because that would have been a very cool story to follow, but too much time has passed and I don't think it will have it's impact anymore.
Maybe that's why it got rebooted initially?
Because the games were good. That's why it's "a thing."
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Hahaha.. eh, this post makes me sad 'cause this is exactly what we'll get. Just give Raven Shield a Next Gen face lift (visuals, physics) and call it a day. Bring back Slow, tactical shooters!!!!!!??!!?!!?!?!
ab.aeterno
Member
Isn't this standard operating procedure at Ubisoft now? They rebooted I Am Alive a few times, likewise with Splinter Cell Conviction. Watch Dogs started as Driver Chicago iirc, and Assassin's Creed Revelations supposedly came from the quietly cancelled 3DS spin-off.
Are are generally great games still a thing? What?
NullPointer
Member
Rainbow Six: [Location here]
Keep the single-player with squad commands and co-op, the P.E.C. customization system, face-mapping, terrorist hunts and multiplayer. It was a solid formula across the board.
CarbonRevenge
Banned
That mode is the best game mode ever. It needs to exist in more games.
"Shoot the fucker!"
The only good Clancy game Ubisot has put out in a long time was Blacklist. That game didn't sell what they wanted, so they didn't even bother supporting it. All they care about is finding a formula that will do big numbers. The problem is, I don't think any tactical shooter is going to achieve the level of sales they're looking for, no matter how they streamline the gameplay. Each of the previous Patriots builds might have made for a solid game, but they were all probably too niche in their appeal, and thus they got scrapped.
At a mechanical level the Clancy games are all blending together to such a degree, that they might as well just put all their eggs in one basket at this point. Maybe Tom Clancy's Splinter Rainbow Recon might move some units.
At a mechanical level the Clancy games are all blending together to such a degree, that they might as well just put all their eggs in one basket at this point. Maybe Tom Clancy's Splinter Rainbow Recon might move some units.
Hero of Legend
Member
This is literally like ZombiU 2.0.
Started out as Killer Rabbids on PS360 (was it ever on Wii U in this stage?), fuck it, start over! Became Killer Freaks on Wii U. ah what the hell, REDO! Then finally became ZombiU.
JUST RELEASE ALL THREE! Make back the money from those stages. I'd love to see Killer Rabbids and Killer Freaks on Wii U on their own.
So same thing here, you likely have enough versions to make them their own thing. Jeez.
Yepper.
Honestly, Ubisoft isn't a stranger to releasing underwhelming stuff (AC3 isn't so liked from what I heard), so I think they can let it slide releasing these and not be 100 Metacritic scoring games. I mean so many games in the garbage when some might actually have been good! You never know!
Started out as Killer Rabbids on PS360 (was it ever on Wii U in this stage?), fuck it, start over! Became Killer Freaks on Wii U. ah what the hell, REDO! Then finally became ZombiU.
JUST RELEASE ALL THREE! Make back the money from those stages. I'd love to see Killer Rabbids and Killer Freaks on Wii U on their own.
So same thing here, you likely have enough versions to make them their own thing. Jeez.
Yepper.
Honestly, Ubisoft isn't a stranger to releasing underwhelming stuff (AC3 isn't so liked from what I heard), so I think they can let it slide releasing these and not be 100 Metacritic scoring games. I mean so many games in the garbage when some might actually have been good! You never know!
VeryGooster
Banned
Rainbow Six: Terrorist Hunt Ground Zeroes -- $29.99 PS4/Xbox One JUST DO IT, UBI.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yeah, seriously. come on.
NullPointer
Member
Gotta admit, I'd be into this. A campaign with a mix of Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six and Splinter Cell missions woven together into one Tom Clany-esque story? Count me the fuck in.
Lord of Castamere
Member
At this point they should scrap everything and move it to the Snowdrop engine.
It could be the worst R6 ever but it the graphics are equal to the Division and it has Terrorist hunt gg Ubisoft.
Sadly though this will probably end up like GRFS quiet release, average game, huge bomba. I still had fun with GRFS.
It could be the worst R6 ever but it the graphics are equal to the Division and it has Terrorist hunt gg Ubisoft.
Sadly though this will probably end up like GRFS quiet release, average game, huge bomba. I still had fun with GRFS.
Can't say i'll miss the most likely eye rolling plot involving forclosures and "wallstreet fatcats".
Still, i hope they bring it back to "plan your attack in this semi open ended map".
rokkerkory
Member
Geez... why? I loved the first R6 for 360. Was awesome.
3 times redesigned 100% means it'll likely never make a profit. =/
3 times redesigned 100% means it'll likely never make a profit. =/
Mushroomer25
Member
A shame. That first reveal was crazy ambitious, and actually made me interested in a Rainbow Six game. I'd be confident to say whatever comes out now, won't be what people want.
Hero of Legend
Member
Speaking of, is it any wonder ZombiU didn't make a profit? They have to account for three games instead of just one. On its own I would think ZombiU was profitable at least a bit. The game itself wasn't a huge power pusher, only in the lighting department and was made in just a year (Killer Freaks was shown at E3 2011, ZombiU was shown at E3 2012).
No way ZombiU in it's sole form was that expensive. All three together? You bet.
MyLifeIsALie
Banned
This is probably their problem. Instead of making a Vegas 2 they are probably trying to reinvent the genre.. Which is silly because there is no other game like Vegas out right now and hasn't been in a long time.
I can only assume they are trying to make it easier.
Have a Nice Day
Member
The last time Ubisoft did this we got the sad excuse for a game that is Conviction.
I'm worried...
I'm worried...
I'm guessing they didn't see the growth they wanted going from R6V1 to R6V2, so they focused of franchises that did see growth back then (AC, Far Cry). Personally Vegas 2 did nothing for me, it felt stale and boring so I'd be happy if they went in a new direction.
Ubisoft has kind of fucked up all their franchises at one point or another over the last several years with the exception of Rayman. They kind of un-fucked Splinter Cell with Blacklist, or at least turned it into something acceptable. Far Cry 3 is still good in my opinion but definitely doesn't meet the potential hinted by the first two games.
Yeah, Ubisoft has probably been more guilty than any other publisher of putting points-based collectathon shit in all its games. Assassin's Creed, Far Cry 3, Splinter Cell Blacklist, and even Rayman are all chock full of XP and positive reinforcement at every corner. I used to like the idea of everything going towards secret unlocks in my games but when you do to this extent it becomes painfully obvious all that feature-bloat is just filler.
Ken Masters
Banned
What a fucking waste of time and resources
Trying to beat their record with The Last Guardian.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
They'd be better off killing the franchise for a few years and then handing it to people that actually want to develop it.