OrlanisWorks
Banned
They need to get back to the roots of the game.*
*-Just go back to the tactics and stuff, ya know, pre-Vegas.
*-Just go back to the tactics and stuff, ya know, pre-Vegas.
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Rumor: Rainbow 6 Patriots has been redesigned from the ground up three times
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The only glimmer of hope I have here is how Ubisoft seems to have learned the value of player choice in games. Far Cry 3 did well and according to interviews Ubisoft took that as a sign that players want to "define their own experiences" in games. That seems to have lead to Assassin's Creed 4 and Splinter Cell Blacklist being more open-ended than the previous games, if only by a little bit. My only hope is that this philosophy carries into Rainbow Six or maybe even next-gen Ghost Recon. The one thing I miss about the old games is the sandbox mission structure. That's really all I want back.
Moon_frogger
Member
They should scrap whatever Michael bay cinematic crap they have going now and give us the hardcore tactical sim we deserve. Make a game worthy of the name rainbow six.
I lost all hope of these series returning to their roots, especially after the last Ghost Recon game.
Didn't David Sears work R6: Patriots as a lead in the beginning? We know how that went since he's now making H-Hour which will actually bring us some teamwork-oriented gameplay.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Wonder if it started out as a:
1) Tactical shooter
Switched to ->
2) Co-op shooter
Changed to ->
3) Call of Duty
See? Redesigned three times!
1) Tactical shooter
Switched to ->
2) Co-op shooter
Changed to ->
3) Call of Duty
See? Redesigned three times!
LiLSnorpSnorp
Member
Just give me a Vegas game, dammit
gate stormer
Member
I played countless hours of Rainbow Six: Raven Shield.
Damn...so much fun and so much better than Counter Strike. So many maps, and also the fact that since it was using UE, you could create custom maps.
C4 and claymores while camping were great. Not to mention heartbeat sensor and heatbeat sensor jammers.
Time flies... that was around 10 years ago.
Damn...so much fun and so much better than Counter Strike. So many maps, and also the fact that since it was using UE, you could create custom maps.
C4 and claymores while camping were great. Not to mention heartbeat sensor and heatbeat sensor jammers.
Time flies... that was around 10 years ago.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Aww, I hope they keep in all the wall-street terror stuff like that concept footage, that stuff was intense.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Rainbow 6: Terrorist Hunt.
That's all I want. Don't over think this Ubi.
That's all I want. Don't over think this Ubi.
Hip Hop
Member
They clearly have no clue what they are doing.
I really don't know if I should blame them. The gameplay had clearly need to be totally revamped from the last Rainbow Six game.
Many shooters have been greatly designed since then, I don't know if having a similar style of the Rainbow Six games would have been a good choice. They need to find a sweet spot, but yeah, this looks really bad regardless. I'm sure they will come through. Ubisoft always does this.
I really don't know if I should blame them. The gameplay had clearly need to be totally revamped from the last Rainbow Six game.
Many shooters have been greatly designed since then, I don't know if having a similar style of the Rainbow Six games would have been a good choice. They need to find a sweet spot, but yeah, this looks really bad regardless. I'm sure they will come through. Ubisoft always does this.
This is by far the best series that I have played in my years of gaming. I remember spending hours upon hours playing Raven Shield and Rogue Spear. Great games. The Vegas series were decent as well. Mind you, I found Vegas 2 made its turn closer COD, which is very unfortunate. I hope they get the next Rainbow Six installment right! R6 needs to go back to their roots and get this game and series to where it should be (tactical shooter) but I am not holding my breath...
Jesus, this game will never make its money back. It's a money sink and nothing more.
How little confidence do you have in your product that you are rebooting so often? And it's not even like a Nintendo thing of "a good game may be delayed but a bad game is bad forever." Look at Future Soldier. That looked like a better game BEFORE you rebooted.
How little confidence do you have in your product that you are rebooting so often? And it's not even like a Nintendo thing of "a good game may be delayed but a bad game is bad forever." Look at Future Soldier. That looked like a better game BEFORE you rebooted.
speculawyer
Member
Ubisoft trying to take away the title of crazy development schedules from Take-Two?
Such a HUGE misconception here on GAF and your opinion on GRFS is just plain wrong
GR:Future soldier is not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination and is actually one of the best MP 3rd person military shooters out there, very well thought out MP design and along with the co-op campaign packaged together with guerilla mode GR:FS was fantastic and great value
(PC version was poorly optimize and had bugs)
also GR:FS actually sold rather well (roughly 2+million maybe 3) and sold better than expected for ubisoft (look it up) GR:FS backlash comes from the Original fans of the PC crowd when the OG GR was a FPS, GRFS also reviewed fairly well and received some great scores.
problem is that they need to release these titles every 2-3 years consistently not every 6+, really want to see R6 and GRFS back on the market again
My man.
Burgerface
Neo Member
They tried to connect the story lines of HAWX and Ghost Recon right? I didn't play the game but the trailer for HAWX has characters from ghosts in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lIAQ8t4KLw
All they would of had to do is take the vegas formula and take it somewhere else, they had solid gameplay mechanics and really strong gunplay.
Punjabi_Hitman
Banned
What if this game needs to sell 5 million copies to break even now? I guess we can say goodbye to the Rainbow Six franchise after this game is released
NobleGundam
Banned
Jesus. 3 times?
Razgriz-Specter
Member
The adjustments they made for Vegas 2 in response to COD4(like the addition of sprint) were good enough to keep them competitive, they already were different enough with the more tactical gameplay and gametypes.
But its like the just gave up there.
Endwar had Ghosts, Rainbow 6 characters and the main character of Ghost Recon is the American general.
MastaKilla
Member
Give me a round based tactical shooter like Rainbow Six Ravenshield and i will buy!
They've done other stuff like this over the years. I think in Splinter Cell, there's a mission where Sam infiltrates an oil rig, and after finishing up his portion Lambert says Team Rainbow will be coming in to secure the rig.
I also think the Splinter Cell program has been referenced in the GRAW series. But I can't remember where.
Fucking hell! :O
I was going to mention this. Assassin's Creed? Sure. Why not. Anything else? Errrmmm...errr...
I fear for Ubisoft...
I was going to mention this. Assassin's Creed? Sure. Why not. Anything else? Errrmmm...errr...
I fear for Ubisoft...
Razgriz-Specter
Member
H-Hour is the best hope for tactical shooter.
MastaKilla
Member
Yeah, but i don't know if i believe that game will really ever come out.
Yep, except it doesn't have a director nor series good will right now. Mainstream wise, the series for alot of people is dated
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Eh its starting to look up actually, they have finally been releasing a bunch of videos recently.
DeadlyParasite
Member
Why not just make a more modern version of Rainbow Six: Vegas 2?
That game was awesome.
That game was awesome.
Take two usually releases a good game after they shit the bed for five years though.
Have you ever gotten game over in an old mario game?
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
How do you screw up three times?
AHA-Lambda
Member
Why does this always happen with tom clancy games??
Femmeworth
Banned
Clearly they are letting the development team experiment and the end product will be far more interesting as a result.
speakerlog
Member
Why didn't they ever do Advanced Warfighter 3? I loved 1 and 2. Anyways this is sad for rainbow six series as I cannot see a good way out of it.....
old manatee
Banned
It's funny because if they put out the first version or the third version it would probably be a totally average Ubisoft third person shooter.
UltraGunner
Banned
Shit man, at this point I've lost all hope for this series. Based on Future Soldier Ubi thinks that games that require even an angstrom of tactical strategy are unprofitable. A shame because me and my buddy had so much fun doing Terrorist Hunt missions back in our Middle School days.