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Two areas in Witcher 3 are 3.5x larger than entire Skyrim
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Triggerhappytel
Member
Completely agree. I hope they have some fulfilling means of travel around this environment. I find fast travel a bit hollow and charmless in this genre.
A couple of things... one, Skellige is an archipelago, a line of barren and windswept islands off the coast of Cidaris. So, there's going to be a lot of water and lot of rock included in that 8x8km.
As for Novigrad, it is pretty much the premier city in the Witcherverse, so it makes sense that they'd give it special consideration. That said, c'mon, obviously they're not going to create an uninterrupted 8.5x8.5km city -- there's every reason to expect that there's going to be gating to funnel you between the various interesting parts of the city with large swathes of the city being inaccessible to Geralt.
As for Novigrad, it is pretty much the premier city in the Witcherverse, so it makes sense that they'd give it special consideration. That said, c'mon, obviously they're not going to create an uninterrupted 8.5x8.5km city -- there's every reason to expect that there's going to be gating to funnel you between the various interesting parts of the city with large swathes of the city being inaccessible to Geralt.
Indeed, everything feels like you're a theme park, you never feel truly lost.
If i wanted stimuli at every step, i'd play a linear game like Uncharted, if i play an open world game, i want a slower pacing, i want to feel like i'm in a real place, i want to feel isolated and lost if i'm in the middle of the woods, not be able to see every game's landmark by turning 360°.
Showing progress on a finished project. It's not finished.
The released footage so far shows Geralt quickly riding a horse in 2 different areas and 1 area a slow trot through a town. The canter brief footage looks gorgeous in terms of visual scenary/locale and fluid motion.
Geralt riding a horse for 30 seconds to market/hype the game would be unusual at this stage.
Sidenote: Your name, no offense. I could get it more if it was a stab at the situation alcohol has in terms of fatalities/disease/health detriments on society but then it shows you drinking. It's the holocaust not something to try to be cool about.
Elitro
Member
I concur.
To me the size (of the map!) doesn't really mean anything if it translates into minutes of walking/horse riding with nothing else to do.
CDPR are one of the few devs where I'm 100% okay with them delaying the game in order for it to meet their standards. The quality these guys are capable of is astounding. Haven't decided if I'm going PS4 or PC for Witcher 3 but if I go PC it's going to be the game I use to spec out my next build.
sixteen-bit
Member
sounds overwhelming
What "marketing" are they resorting to? This is information Dualshockers gleaned from slides CDPR included in a GDC talk. It's not info from the back of the game box.
This x100. Skyrim's cities felt more like subdivisions.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Me too. Any game that I've seen people talk about how large the world is ends up having a lot of fluff with nothing interesting in it.
Eh, I'll wait before judgement.
I guess it's nice as an exploration game if you like watching a horse run, but why not play a game where there are actually substantial things to discover like Super Metroid?
ComputerMKII
Banned
I'd rather have a small area with lots of things to do than a huge space full of nothing.
OriginalNameGuy
Member
I wonder how much of that will be empty space with nothing of interest to see. I'll take a small packed world over an empty wasteland any day.
It looks like a dream game for the people who read the books.
I remember reading how they took forever to go from Brokilon to the Jaruga river, and in the second game you cross the entire continent in what felt like three days.
Skellige is a bunch of islands, so probably it's a bunch of water too. Novigrad is a seacoast city, so more water.
Did they said which cities would be in the game?
I remember reading how they took forever to go from Brokilon to the Jaruga river, and in the second game you cross the entire continent in what felt like three days.
Skellige is a bunch of islands, so probably it's a bunch of water too. Novigrad is a seacoast city, so more water.
Did they said which cities would be in the game?
Sounds awful. They will truly need to have some magic at their disposal to not have this be a generic wasteland. I have to imagine Skyrim had more money behind it than W3 does and look how wretched that turned out. Hopefully I'm wrong, but consider my hype deflated for the time being.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
More nothing.
This is my concern. The Witcher series is great specifically because it's dense and interesting not generic and shitty like Skyrim.
pretty done
Member
Dennis leading the brigade of fast travel hipsters
Because they are two completely different concepts of "exploration"; i don't explore for a mechanical reward, but for the sheer sense of wonder.
To find a peculiar tree or a weird cave in SoTc was the reward, the fact that the world felt so big and natural in proportions, and that it felt truly uncharted, is what made it good.
Tying it to physical rewards changes that paradigm somewhat, you're not simply looking around, but looking for compensation.
I do however think that making all the Colossi open from the start (without a sword to find them) would've made the game that much better, just go on your way and find them in whatever order you want, by yourself.
TheRealTalker
Banned
I hope it is filled with a lot of stuff
I wouldn't care for a bigger barren map
Skyrim had some barren places
I wouldn't care for a bigger barren map
Skyrim had some barren places
Small open world games in general have always been better to me than bigger ones. Bully, The Darkness, Animal Crossing, Dark Souls, etc. These games have a sense of place and an intimacy where you learn the environment like the back of your hand. In bigger games like GTA or Skyrim you just set way points and stare at the map icon. It fucking sucks.
Impeccable
Member
At some point games are going to be big just for the sake of being big. I kind of felt like Skyrim was kind of that way.
Is this the game to be too big? Maybe!
Is this the game to be too big? Maybe!
figadapaura
Member
Hopefully that doesn't mean just tons of open space. 3.5x the amount of content as Skyrim would be far more impressive.
This news actually makes me far more excited about the next Elder Scrolls (not online), but The Witcher 3 could definitely curb that. *fingers crossed*
This news actually makes me far more excited about the next Elder Scrolls (not online), but The Witcher 3 could definitely curb that. *fingers crossed*
ref
Member
I'm inclined to agree, honestly.
I love the Witcher series, mainly the first one, but the second is also a great game.
I'd much rather have a more detailed "linear" game than being needlessly large for the sake of it being a large open world game... writing quality and pacing generally suffer in these situations.
I really don't like this trend of games going open world, but that's just me.
Love the lore of the series and still hoping the game turns out fantastic.
ScepticMatt
Member
Witcher 3 has no loading screens, that's the whole idea behind umbra + next-gen only.
Could be some inaccessible parts or "useless" parts like a giant lake or something. But in general it bodes well for the game to have larger areas.
flyinpiranha
Member
Awesome. I like bigger worlds, they give me a sense of scale. Just drop a few things in here and there along the path and I'm happy. I loved how Skyrim did it. I know this won't be GTA V level of detail and difference but I like it when the tropical beaches aren't a 2 minute walk from the snow cliffs.
Options.
Options.
figadapaura
Member
Oh, I didn't know that. That's great news.
stuminus3
Banned
I see what you did there.
Ones time does, though.
VicDaMoan03
Member
Sounds like a mistake or a difference in measuring methods to me. CDPR already said its 20% larger than Skyrim.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Yeah that's what i'm trying to figure out! As in city with streets and buildings all stuffed in there with an area that large? There's no way... if so... that actually sounds far too big.