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Battlefield 4 |OT2| Is it fixed yet?

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Nope, they'll make Heist and Blood Money the focus in Battlefield 5 after Hardline. It'll be a total
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Also DICE refer to above .gif for Oman's set change.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
DICE/CTE said:
WHY CHANGE RUSH?
We’ve heard your feedback, we’ve checked our telemetry, we’ve watched countless hours of streamed gameplay and of course played Rush in the live environment ourselves. We decided on this initiative because we felt we could increase the quality of the Rush experience in the BF4 base game maps by small means such as tweaking vehicle setup or MCOM placement. With CTE up and running, we have a great opportunity to get some player feedback on some changes we’ve playtested internally and see if it’s something we want to push live.

The main focus of the changes has been to increase the balance and flow of Rush rounds. Often this means making it easier for the attackers to tackle certain MCOMs that were frustrating. Worst offenders were maps where it’s rare to see attackers progress past the first base.

Although there is no accounting for bad team mates, I hope you’ll find the most difficult bases less frustrating than before.

PTxO
-Tompen

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OH MY GOD THEY'RE DOING IT THE CRAZY BASTARDS ARE DOING IT! *I'm in literal tears over this*

Thank you, based CTE for giving DICE the ability to unfuck a mode.
 

olimpia84

Member
I'm getting 1 bar on all servers tonight, don't know what's happening... :-(

We lost that Golmud game by a hundred tickets. The other team had 2 squads going around on jeeps capturing E,D and G the whole game. It's an annoying tactic but it works. No matter how many times I captured those flags they would get then as soon as I left.

I tried doing the same, but the little bird killed me 2 times, and their jeep squads gang banged me on the others! Lol!

Those guys were coordinated.

After you left I thought we would get demolished on Op. Locker, we even got spawn trapped once. Most gaffers left but we had an amazing comeback! I still managed to get the MVP pin even with my shitty 1 bar connection! Lol!

Good to know you guys won. My internet is having some serious issues as of late. Hopefully is just a temporal issue and it doesn't act up when Destiny gets released.
 

olimpia84

Member
Hey DICE here's a good way to fix Rush mode: Get rid of that mode completely in BF4 and release an add-on/DLC with rush maps from BC2 for premium users.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Objective damage would fix Rush mode

No it wouldn't. Zavod last set would still be impossible to take. And frankly, I don't want Objective Harm to ever return to that mode. Too easy to abuse and prevents the main objective (arming/holding) from being done.

olimpia84 said:
Hey DICE here's a good way to fix Rush mode: Get rid of that mode completely in BF4 and release an add-on/DLC with rush maps from BC2 for premium users.

Rush on 4 maps only, no thank you.

This is a good first move. The fact they're looking into it means 1) they admit they fucked up and 2) it's possible to "fix" it.

Two of the general changes that are gonna be a possible:

  • Removed Commander by default in Rush
  • Round start timer addition (we are investigating final solution, not active in this release)

The first was fucking stupid from a mode and big-picture objective view. Why the fuck would you give one side (since there is NEVER two commanders on the same server) an "all seeing eye" intel advantage and ability to prevent spots in a HUGE area. Double so when there is MAV's for that explicit purpose (recon).

The second means no more Solid-State (Hard-)Drive advantage in being able to arm the objectives and blow them/first-set done while everyone else is loading into the server in literal minutes. This never should've went away from BF3 and it's mind boggling that DICE removed it at launch.

Siege of Shanghai said:
SIEGE OF SHANGHAI CHANGES

  • Removed all air vehicles to make this a land strike in Rush.
  • Cut the power to all the elevators in the map.
  • Tweaked MCOM positions of all bases. Base #2 was especially problematic for attackers if they didn’t have enough of a momentum.

The first means no more fucking first set sandbagging. Thank you, BASED DICE, for actually kicking them off that roof and going "attack, damn it."

The second means the first: No more roof campers.

The third admits a mistake they made: Tanks being able to go into the underground mall and shut down that set, gg defense with no ability to counter it other than "rush down there in the attacking tank yourself and pray they don't have the tank down there already."

Of course, since this isn't "Live" to see how they've changed it/test it yet, the second set may/may not still be down there but at least they listened to me and others that have bitched about this. So CommanderShepardSuckItHaters.gif toward Sco about "oh but that's counterable in 32 players." Kane disagrees and sees why I bitched about it, DICE sees it (even in telemetry) and knows they fucked up.

Three of the Zavod changes (since these are the first two maps they're looking at):

Zavod 311 said:
ZAVOD 311 CHANGES

  • Wanted to make this map easier for attackers particularly on bases 1 and 4.
  • Major rebalance on vehicle balance in favor of attackers. For example: transport helicopter given to attackers from base 2 and onwards. This is especially helpful on the “impossible last base”.
  • Tweaks on MCOM positions and minor changes to elements such as combat areas, spawns etc.

The first doesn't really need to be done with the exception of last set/4 B. Placing an M-COM/crate in that tower with only the stairs being the way up there was one of the most bone-headed decisions DICE did with the map (and there's plenty more for Rush/maps design on others) Set 4 needs a radical change. Maybe the transport chopper will help, provided DICE does not put in a mobile anti-air and lets the defense have to anti-air with engineers.

The second has been a problem with all Rush maps. So it's good they're looking into it even if it's just Zavod right now.

The third needs to be done in regards to Set 4/B but also just general set design in general.
 

scogoth

Member
So they took shanghai, a map based around vertical gameplay and tall buildings, and removed the vertical gameplay?

This is why I don't play rush in BF4
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
So they took shanghai, a map based around vertical gameplay and tall buildings, and removed the vertical gameplay?

Yes. The only downside to this is the "last set" being able to snipe the tank from above, I feel that's going to shut down the last set. But since people couldn't even get there in the first place since they camped the roofs of the first set (which is why this "vertical gameplay" needs to go) with the transport chopper and the second was impossible to take, it's hard to say how much use those roofs are until CTE bangs on them.
Which knowing CTE means they'll continue to play Conquest and these will be dead until DICE removes all the servers. Which they should've done if they were testing Sabotage Small/"competitive" in the first place last month

This is why I don't play rush in BF4

So you don't play a infantry focused arming mode because you can't sit on the roof and snipe and never arm objectives.

Mmmm'kay. Siege needed this. If this means people actually get off their asses and attack instead of sitting on the roofs "to support" and never getting anything done, good. The less having to aim with XM25's to the roofs to end the round after 45 mins, the better.
 
No it wouldn't. Zavod last set would still be impossible to take. And frankly, I don't want Objective Harm to ever return to that mode. Too easy to abuse and prevents the main objective (arming/holding) from being done.

it enables arming. can't have the whole defending team sitting back while their objectives get chipped.
 

vazel

Banned
I want to get Naval Strike because of its Carrier Assault mode but are these seriously all the servers for it? They're all empty, wtf?

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XBP

Member
Just a quick question. Is now the right time to jump into BF4 and get it for the PS3? I got the console a couple of days ago and want to get some good multiplayer games for it.
 
I want to get Naval Strike because of its Carrier Assault mode but are these seriously all the servers for it? They're all empty, wtf?

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i would recommend against Carrier Assault.

and those are all custom servers, most custom servers are empty. Search for [DICE] servers only, you dont want to play on silly custom rule servers where you will be kicked for using a shotgun.

Just a quick question. Is now the right time to jump into BF4 and get it for the PS3? I got the console a couple of days ago and want to get some good multiplayer games for it.

Dunno if any gaffers play this on a PS3 anymore :D
 

XBP

Member
i would recommend against Carrier Assault.

and those are all custom servers, most custom servers are empty. Search for [DICE] servers only, you dont want to play on silly custom rule servers where you will be kicked for using a shotgun.



Dunno if any gaffers play this on a PS3 anymore :D

Really? I was really looking forward to picking this up for 25$. Damn. Are the servers populated in general? Or are they deserted now on last gen?
 

vazel

Banned
i would recommend against Carrier Assault.

and those are all custom servers, most custom servers are empty. Search for [DICE] servers only, you dont want to play on silly custom rule servers where you will be kicked for using a shotgun.
I had it set to search for Official servers. I searched for Ranked servers and there are a couple of populated servers; not as many as I would like but hopefully that's just because it's late night currently in NA.
 
I had it set to search for Official servers. I searched for Ranked servers and there are a couple of populated servers; not as many as I would like but hopefully that's just because it's late night currently in NA.

but you see in DICE logic Official does not mean official dice servers, it means arbitrary servers that fit into the quick match -matchmaking settings.

you still need to sort it by name or use the actual word "DICE" as a search term.

Really? I was really looking forward to picking this up for 25$. Damn. Are the servers populated in general? Or are they deserted now on last gen?

Looks like there are players yes,
http://bf4stats.com/servers/ps3
 
Dear Gaf-

Am I 'boosting' my stats if I just keep playing the Naval Maps over and over and obliterate clowns with the fast attack boats even though these are likely my favorite maps and vehicle in the game?

I feel dirty, but should I?

Love your column.

-Well Meaning Statwhore
 

Ark

Member
You'll become a one-trick-pony and anyone that ever checks your profile will say: "wow that scrub can only use utilise one asset in this game, I'm glad I don't hate my life like that guy."

It's not boosting or anything. It just really bugs me when I see people like this.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
Im glad that TheSeks has finally something positive to say about Based DICE.

Haven't played in a while and tomorrow is a holiday so... see yah in the Battlfield bros!
 
You'll become a one-trick-pony and anyone that ever checks your profile will say: "wow that scrub can only use utilise one asset in this game, I'm glad I don't hate my life like that guy."

It's not boosting or anything. It just really bugs me when I see people like this.

Fair point. But you check my profile you'll see a utilitarian jack of all trades mastermind who does everything (except snipe and fly aircraft) pretty well. :)
 

shone237

Unconfirmed Member
I'm trying to get some assignments and unlocks so (against my better judgement) I've been jumping in the gunner spot of every chopper I can. I've come to realize their are 2 types of people that use the air vehicles. Those that can either fly really really really good, and those that can barely fly at all. I swear there is no in between. Not really much else to say about it, but was just surprised how drastic the skills are amongst players.
 

Tubie

Member
Dear Gaf-

Am I 'boosting' my stats if I just keep playing the Naval Maps over and over and obliterate clowns with the fast attack boats even though these are likely my favorite maps and vehicle in the game?

I feel dirty, but should I?

Love your column.

-Well Meaning Statwhore

I'd say do what you have fun with. Every now and then try something completely new to you, even if just for the lols.
 
Dear Gaf-

Am I 'boosting' my stats if I just keep playing the Naval Maps over and over and obliterate clowns with the fast attack boats even though these are likely my favorite maps and vehicle in the game?

I feel dirty, but should I?

Love your column.

-Well Meaning Statwhore

hell naw. attack boats are one of the funnest vehicles in bf4 :D

i also loved the new controls for helicopters in bf4. i hated littlebirds in bf3 but I absolutely love them in bf4, they makes the game funner imo
 
I don't own the game because I don't enjoy throwing away money.

BOOM, MILK!

BOOM!

I guess that is your excuse for not owning a PS4 as well.
BOOM!

You've made your opinion clear, dude, on a number of occasions. Nobody cares.

So ignore my posts and move along.

Or you can just stop shitting up the thread with the same thing every page.

Or you can just use the ignore feature

Ody is one of us, he is part of the original BF crew. He is just too much of a peasant to afford the game so he just comes here to troll the thread. Don't take it too seriously.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Some of these changes are good. Like, damn good. But some of them are pretty questionable.

Elevators being off in Shanghai hasn't been a problem, thankfully. Let your hate flow, Sco. The map is better off for the mode without that element. (Granted, we haven't gotten past third set yet) Just for the fact people have to ATTACK now.

Or you can just stop shitting up the thread with the same thing every page.

Gotta agree with Big Kack here. It was "funny" the first five times, Ody, but it's gotten old. Get a new joke, please.
 

K.Sabot

Member
For some reason I am getting massive frame judder in BF4 now, nothing has changed for this to happen and it's pissing me off.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
For some reason I am getting massive frame judder in BF4 now, nothing has changed for this to happen and it's pissing me off.

Platform? I'm getting some judder/stutter but I think it's the servers.

Also don't let it be said I don't give DICE MASSIVE text-dump feedbacks from live gameplay for Rush. hurr hurr hurr WHO CARES ABOUT RUSH says the peanut gallery; shush. Let me nerd out and give them feedback.
 

K.Sabot

Member
Platform? I'm getting some judder/stutter but I think it's the servers.

Also don't let it be said I don't give DICE MASSIVE text-dump feedbacks from live gameplay for Rush. hurr hurr hurr WHO CARES ABOUT RUSH says the peanut gallery; shush. Let me nerd out and give them feedback.

PC.
 
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