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Do you know anyone afflicted with 'Yellow Fever'?
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NipplesAndToes23
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This is the thread for me. I love some Asian women, but there is nothing like some good ole Blasians. Why do I have an affinity for those of the Orion derivation? Honestly, I can't tell ya because I don't even know. I think my love for martial arts movies and JRPGs have nothing to do with it though. I do think they tend to have the prettiest eyes, but coupled with those with the genetic history of steatopygia and I have reached nirvana.
As a black man I'm festishized, but I don't feel awful.
As a black man I'm festishized, but I don't feel awful.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
I grew up in a very diverse place, so it is more based on attitude then appearance.
plasmawave
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A love pillow doesn't count!
Speaking as a black man myself I don't particularly enjoyed being seen as a fetish by anyone. It really sucks when you're attempting to seek a relationship with someone but they can't see pass your blackness, treating you as some type of junk food in their sexual diet. Like you're only good enough for them to say they had sex with a black guy to all their friends but you're not good enough to be in an actual relationship with because you're just a fetish or to reuse my analogy you're junk food to them, comforting and sweet but ultimately lacking in nutrition and not good for you. That's what it feels like to be a fetish in spite of seeking a relationship.
In the other side of of things it sucks pursuing someone but then you have to go out of your way to prove to them that you genuinely like them and are attracted to them and you're not fetishing them for being Asian or whatever because this is something they're used too happening to them.
Rushersauce
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I know that feel. My dream is to speak most of the languages before my demise. And when I was talking about that with friends of mine, I happen to say Japanese and Mandarin with other languages. They jumped saying "you want to learn this to pick up Asians". Got mad at that. My dream is serious business, not something to be used as a fucking tool for getting women.
Anyway, ¿Cómo van esas clases de español? ¿problemas con las tildes?.
Yep. You remembered correctly. I am the girl that said I wanted to date someone like myself. If it were just appearance, I would like all Asian men, but Taiwanese-Americans get a +2 bonus, Chinese-Americans a +1 bonus, and everyone else gets nothing (is equal).
TBH, I never had much contact with Yellow Fever, mostly because I only had other Chinese/Taiwanese friends. I think I'm at the age now where most men are over their silly racial preferences. Lucky me
Yes, there are ignorant fuckwads in every ethnicity
I have heard Asian girls complain about Asian men not having muscles or big dicks. To those girls, I would say rather snarkily, that it isn't these men don't exist, it's that the Asian girl in question can't attract one.
I have asked several Asian girls who don't date Asian guys why that is:
British Chinese girl: just didn't find them attractive
British Vietnamese: reminded her of her brother
Canadian Filipino: too controlling
British Chinese: not attracted to them. But Koreans are fucking sexy.
British Chinese: see above.
Mainland Chinese: too controlling.
I don't blame some Asian dudes for not taking it well. That said I do recall one conversation where a British Chinese dude teased a British Ghanaian friend for being a virgin at 25 despite having a foot long penis. He said his 2" penis found its way in all manner of pussy so what's his excuse. Man that felt awkward to laugh at.
jimbobsmells
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I'm white, dating someone from Taiwan. My boss (who is ethnic chinese malay) said I have the Yellow Fever recently. Must admit I laughed. Now he keeps saying it which is starting to get bloody annoying.
tkscz
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I've literally had several white women come up to me in my life time and just say I like black men, or my friend likes black men, or I have jungle fever, the latter which makes me laugh. Unfortunately it's always skinny white girls with "ghetto" accents.
Dirtyshubb
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From watching the video I think it seems the woman is mixing 2 types of people together and blaming them all equally.
You have types of people who are attracted to mainly Asian women:
1) They just genuinely think Asian women are pretty and thats their preference.
2) The people she describes, only wanting her to live up to some stereotypical view of Asian women.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with person 1, they still want to get to know you as a person and it's not all just about your race.
Person 2 of course is most likely someone that hasnt got much experience with women, of Asian women in particular and as such their ignorance is to be expected (But not tolerated of course).
You can't and shouldnt be labelling both groups together as their motivations are totally different and should be judged as such.
You have types of people who are attracted to mainly Asian women:
1) They just genuinely think Asian women are pretty and thats their preference.
2) The people she describes, only wanting her to live up to some stereotypical view of Asian women.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with person 1, they still want to get to know you as a person and it's not all just about your race.
Person 2 of course is most likely someone that hasnt got much experience with women, of Asian women in particular and as such their ignorance is to be expected (But not tolerated of course).
You can't and shouldnt be labelling both groups together as their motivations are totally different and should be judged as such.
Rushersauce
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Chuckie
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Damn. That's ice cold.
Shanks D Zoro
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Yes I know someone who has Yellow Fever this guy.
don't believe his lies that he has grown out of it.
don't believe his lies that he has grown out of it.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It offends me because, as a white guy dating an Asian women, I will be subject to the scorn of people who presume my motives.
Even on GAF, anyone who presumes to have a preference for a certain Asian look (or a love of other cultures) are deconstructed, and made to feel like the mere puppets of racist, Orientalist history... Despite a myriad of other possibilities for why they may feel as they do... Maybe it's their unique personal history that led to liking what they do, and not some pitiable, history-based objectification?
It offends me because I recently messaged a woman on a dating site, and without mentioning a single thing about ethnicity or culture (not a thing... I messaged her about Hannibal! Lol)... She ranted against me as a white guy daring to message an Asian. It was clear in her verbage that she had internalized "anti-yellow fever" as "fuck off white men who want an Asian girl". She was an atypical individual... But it made me feel sudden disgust that I could actually be racially judged like that (I know I know... Welcome to the club, white people). Straight up, my intentions towards her were presumed because I was white (when in actuality I just wanted to talk about Hannibal!) Sometimes corrections against racism end up becoming the new racism. I was racially profiled that moment... I was objectified, put into the label of some yellow fever fuck.
This yellow fever meme is harmful. I know it's a correction against the racist nonsense of other western men. But it's already being twisted into scorn for the intention of white-Asian pairings of any type. It removes all presumption that they might be innocent pairings, based upon normal interests.
Still sounds harmless to me. There's nothing wrong with seeking a relationship with someone of a particular look or culture.
We have particular tastes in all arenas of life... But when it comes to mates, maybe the biggest choice of your life... It's wrong? I wouldn't screen out or prejudge anyone based on ethnicity... But it seems to me that certain looks "working on you" more than others is biology 101.
I'm sympatico with the idea that men shouldn't be coming to the interaction thinking a bunch of stereotypes, though. But that's less to do with "yellow fever" or dating... And more to do with just straight up prejudice and racism.
You mean, do I know anyone who makes presumptions about a person primarily based on their race? No, I don't know anyone like that.
The only thing worse than someone having a racial fetish is those people who expect you, if you are a minority male/female, to only be attracted to or interested in the only other male/female minority in your town who is the same ethnicity as you.
Be asian and have your white friends introduce you to the only other asian person they know brehs.
This racism is killing me inside!
It would probably be easier to just not be racist and treat people with respect but I guess that makes too much sense.
The only thing worse than someone having a racial fetish is those people who expect you, if you are a minority male/female, to only be attracted to or interested in the only other male/female minority in your town who is the same ethnicity as you.
Be asian and have your white friends introduce you to the only other asian person they know brehs.
This racism is killing me inside!
It would probably be easier to just not be racist and treat people with respect but I guess that makes too much sense.
Cheesecakebobby
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Of the last 10 dates I went on, 9 were with Asian women
I live in Japan so if I picked at random I probably would have got 10 Asian women
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Nice excuse to dodge teh objectification, bro.
Cheesecakebobby
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If I objectified them I wouldn't keep moving on after the first date to find the right one!
It is true though that a lot of guys who move to Asia have one thing in mind in particular.
Fun fact: Overall, asian males are seen as the least attractive males, with black women seen as the least attractive females.
Feels bad man
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Flower arranging?
Thanks controlling asian bros. Bunch of conservative fucks giving me a modern dating -5 modifier.
Damn right flower arranging. Ba-dum-tsh.
grandwizard
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On the other hand, I find the 'yellow fever' as a meme to be something incredibly positive in the long run for race relations in this country. The further it spreads the more people might actually investigate and wake up to the harsh truths of how their mindset and attractions have been influenced by the mass media they consume. People might understand how the American media's long history of emasculating the Asian male and othering of minority females that enters into exoticism.
To learn kung-fu?
Cheesecakebobby
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No lie, that's how I met my best friend here.
People get fetishized differently depending on race/gender. Assuming you're a guy you probably got to be exotic, stronger, wilder than white dudes.
Asian women get to be addicted to sex while simultaneously being submissive. Some people reap the benefits, but people who don't fit in that stereotype face hardship. I can't imagine that submissive Carribean dudes who like missionary or assertive Asian women who don't like sex much have a good time of it.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Except caught in the crossfire here is what should be the Asian immigrant's greatest ally: the non-Asian who genuinely enjoys the richness of Asian cultures and loves that they are here in the cultural tapestry.
That white guy who is dating Asian girls? He's also potentially the same white guy who has good Asian male friends and wants them to be hooked up with girls of all stripes.
This "yellow fever" crap seems like digging into the trenches of ethnic tensions. I don't see how it's improving the situation. Making people afraid of white mens' intentions doesn't help.
I think the idea here is that systematic racism means there are really very few people who can be separated from Orientalist racism because it affects almost everyone who's exposed to modern western culture.
Frankly speaking, unless someone hasn't grown up in the west, that person will definitely have ingested some Orientalist shit. No matter how nice a guy he might be or how intelligent he is with this stuff. And I generally agree about that, and include myself, who is an Asian male who grew up in the US.
People shouldn't be surprised some people will feel that way. I'd say it's what happens when you get centuries and decades of racism directed towards you (and then practiced by you against people who you deem as racist prematurely). It sucks, but these things take time and this is the world we live in.
But making people aware of this whole subconscious Orientalism is critical.
grandwizard
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Spot on. There has literally been decades of media brainwashing that has left certain segments of the population to be found as undesirable (Asian men, Black women) while others are propped up on a pedestal (White men). We are currently seeing the effects of this where large portions of Asian American women date White men and it is so pervasive that it has now become its own 'meme'.
More people understanding just how deep and affecting the media's role is in all of this is only a good thing in the long run. It's taken decades to get to this point and it will likely take decades to 'deprogram'.
As for those 'caught in the crossfire', White men and women are still statistically the most desirable to all other races, I think you will be fine. Meanwhile minority races are currently in a crisis of either being ignored and stereotyped or fetishized. There are more pressing concerns.
SquiddyCracker
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Urban Dictionary's entry for "Fob" is super informative.
You learn something new everyday.
You learn something new everyday.
teruterubozu
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People suck, plain and simple. As a half-Asian I heard the term "war baby" a lot when I was little, even though WWII ended generations ago. Personally I find "yellow fever" to be offensive and I'm a bit puzzled as to why this thread is acceptable. Oh well.
Chuckie
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Wouldn't the term war baby refer to the Vietnam war rather than WWII?
This is an old post but I wanted to quote this.
This is basically my opinion as well, and I think it's the problem with the majority of the personality driven videos on this ilk that tend to get spread around. They come at the problems with conflict in mind and accusations and as a result, they receive nothing but backlash. When the main tone of your video is to tell people why they are wrong and how big of an asshole they are, you aren't going to help enact change. Generally speaking.
Creating a conversation around a subject involves asking the question "Why" and doing what's done in the video isn't going to accomplish that. It's only going to cause people to become defensive, and when that happens you've basically done nothing to help your cause.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I can see that point... I can see that there is a kind of "exotic Asia" at play in my earliest impressions of the continent (Kung fu and mystic wisdom, y'all)... But it's been so displaced by academia and 15+ years of close friend/lover relations with Asians both immigrant and locally born. I think you can appreciate from my statement of long experience with actual Asian people, that to even have the threat of being painted with an "Orientalist" brush, makes me billigerant.
This is a digression, but I'd also float the idea that this is an Asian immigrant sensitivity. I've had extensive interactions with visitors from Japan, Korea, etc., and I think almost none of them have the same sensitivities around this issue. If someone says "I want to date a Korean girl [because she's Korean]" or "Koreans are supposed to be X", they can confirm or deny it or laugh it off. They themselves think they are somewhat different, so it's not a point of sensitivity even if the comment is totally wrong. But if it's Korean-American or Canadian? Then you start to say "why are you judging me as your idea of Korean when I am just a human being born here?"
That's just a perspective I offer... Not related to any larger point.
Yes. If there's an issue.. It should be brought to light. That's how this works, I agree.
But I think this "cure" for Orientalism has side effects. I'm a white person who typically dates Asians for reasons that I think are quite harmless and based on an appreciation of individuals... So there's a reason why I am as outraged about this topic as an American born Chinese who is pissed about the "me so horny" message she got on OkCupid.
teruterubozu
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Yeah I guess, but my mom's Japanese and it was thrown around a lot among the foreign residents in Japan.
I guess it applies to WWII, The Korean War and Vietnam.
I'm an expert
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Normally don't comment on shit like this but that video was awful.
Bucket Mouse
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The whole "fob" thing is pretty cringeworthy and discriminatory. More often than not the people who evoke it come across as insecure.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I think that's fair, by the way. We white people will be fine... Privilege definitely trumps any backlash from "yellow fever" fear.
But I have a right to say I think this concept is troubling... It paints a certain pairing with a broad stroke that is equally as racist as what it opposes.
There are people who like a certain type of ethnic look, who have nothing to do with "objectification", "Orientalism", etc, and are in fact allies of those who oppose it.
I don't really get how accusing people of "yellow fewer" is improving racial Relations or how it helps black women/asian men to combat preconcieved notions.
SquiddyCracker
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You've crossed the line if you search for only Asian matches on OKCupid.
That's my litmus test for whether you just happen to find the features on Asian people attractive, or if you're engrossed with an Asian ideal.
That's my litmus test for whether you just happen to find the features on Asian people attractive, or if you're engrossed with an Asian ideal.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I guess I've crossed the line then. I am your monster. Hate me now. Judge me for my racist, Orientalist, objectivistic tendencies.
Why do they even have an ethnicity filter on there anyway? It could be because ethnicity (read: looks) is one of the most important factors when it comes to what you like in a mate.
If you really are one of those "I don't see color" people when it comes to dating... Gold star for you. I guess you're more enlightened than the rest of us... Or it could be just that your sexual awakening was completely different than mine. Lucky for you that you were born without a particular interest.
I am open to dating someone of any ethnicity. That said.. Over time you figure out what you like. If using the OkCupid filter to get more of what I know I like is wrong, call me Hitler, because I don't want to be right.
Well at least now you've admitted it. Time for recovery
SquiddyCracker
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See, if you are okay with dating people of multiple ethnicities, why would you limit yourself to a single one on a dating site?
I don't think it is a terrible thing to have racial preferences (read: being attractive to individuals of a particular ethnicity, not actively seeking out individuals of certain races because of other reasons), since yeah - people don't control who they are attracted to.
But it is kinda unfortunate for these people to have such a limited potential dating pool.
It's not a Hitler level of bad, more of a David Cameron level of bad.
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