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BLOODBORNE Impressions Thread : And so the Nightly Hunt Begins
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Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I reckon you start off the game in Yarnham exploring its various locales and then come to the realisation that there is no cure in Yarnham and proceed outside, to the rest of the world to find a cure.
I mean this doesn't look like it could be near the city at all with those backdrops. It looks like you're heading to a rocky terrain.
that makes sense, I should have a look at that art book.
Wow, Bloodborne's OST is sounding great!
Kinda offtopic but thats not from Gamescom. Seems like its from another event in Chile. Seems like some videos are from there, I guess they allowed recording in that event?
I've never really played a Souls game, and I'm a puss when it comes to anything remotely freaky like this, but I can't help but be interested in this one for some reason. Two things I find strange, though. One is for all the detail in the environment, it's kinda off putting to me to not be able to manipulate anything in it. Second, kinda long the same lines is the enemies. As soon as they are dead and on their way down, they are suddenly an not object to be moved/batted around any more...until they are on the ground? Just seems weird to me.
Generally in Souls games there's lot of stuff in the environment that can be broken by rolling in to or attacking them, kinda like the pots in Zelda games. Sometimes they have items in them, if that's what you're talking about.
The ragdoll body physics have always been very weird, It was different in Dark Souls 2 where you couldn't move the bodies about at all.
lol that's the video I recorded, yes, it's not from Gamescom, it's from Festigames in Chile and yes we where allowed to record, I'm uploading a new one but it don't look this good, that's why I uploaded the other first, when I finish uploading I'll put the other link
Stone Ocean
Member
Finally some clear uncut footage. Damn this game is gorgeous
So the "covenant" symbol is just the Vial counter?
So the "covenant" symbol is just the Vial counter?
thewhitehawk
Member
Your concern is unwarranted. They've used the same type of menu on Dark Souls 1 and 2 for trade shows.
the upper left corner number? yes it's the vial counter, you just loot them from your enemy's, and no, you can't destroy all the objects in the environment
So hey, back from gamescom, and here are my impressions on BloodBorne so far.
I was lucky enough to have a trade pass which means I got in early before most people and got to try it without too much wait. I say this, because you get to play only 5 minutes. And if you know what 5 minutes means for a souls games (as in being absolutely piss poor), you understand why I didn't have to wait 2 hours and why I probably wouldn't have.
With that in mind, do consider that with such a short time, I believe it's almost impossible to formulate what the game will actually be like. I noted a few cool stuff (and some less cool) but if anything, it just made me curious of what's behind the rest of the game.
So by now you people know the locale where the demo took place. What I noticed is that the world seems already way more detailed. There's lots of little touches here and there which made the world pop a little bit more.
Graphically, it's pretty. It's not the most visually impressive thing like the order and whatnot but it certainly does a very very good job at what's it's trying to convey (damp, sinister victorian-type town).
Funny enough, a lot of the sounds and sometimes effect were just straight off taken from the souls games. Ladders and the "molotov cocktail" make the exact same sound. The effect for the molotov itself is very similar. Animations are also reused sometimes like climbing and whatnot.
The thing I liked the most is when I got to that first big alley after climbing the ladder. You're kind of on this double level street and below you, you see these villagers roaming about with torches, prowling in the night, obviously looking for someone, or probably you. I really liked that and it kinda falls in line with, i guess, what the devs said about npcs actively looking for you across the city. You'll have to pay more attention to ennemies as it'll be easier for them to sneak up on you.
Combat is very similar to Souls yet has that one little difference in that you have no shield, and the shotgun instead. Meaning that instead of the usual block/dodge, wait, attack, you can go for a much more aggressive playstyle of sidestepping (that sidestep by the way, really cool. It replaces the lateral dodge and you have a nice control over it), shooting mid range ennemies and slashing away close ones.
Other than that, the combat and control scheme is pretty much like a souls game. Lock on with R3, attack and such, use items. I didn't manage to make my machete in a badass scythe like in the trailer.
I did notice that if you press left and right on the pad, my left hand would switch between the gun and a torch, and my right would switch between the machete and bare-handed, so that pretty much confirms an inventory and multiple weapons and whatnot.
By the time I got a grip of how to fight the enemies though, it was already over. I was really disappointed by not being able to try more. But that's gamescom for you.
My BIGGEST worry so far though is the framerate. The game is struggling to keep it around 20 fps most of the time (I don't think it ever really reached 30 while i was playing) while there weren't a lot of stuff happening. It was almost too low sometimes for me to be able to play properly, especially considering now that the combat is much more aggressive. If they don't optimize this, it's gonna be very bad when it releases. And From doesn't exactly have a track record in that departement and I dunno how much Japan studio is helping them on that so fingers crossed.
A minor complain, on the other side, but which I feel can be almost more important, is that so far what i've played made it almost too much like a souls game. A good souls game, mind you, a very good one. But the amount of reused sounds and sometimes animations, you'd think "Dark souls 3/Demon souls 2/Whatever souls" could easily be a subtitle but they called it bloodborne just to make it sound less repetitive.
If anything, pleased with what I saw with some reservation. Honestly, I just want to see more gameplay and new ennemies that aren't humanoids
I was lucky enough to have a trade pass which means I got in early before most people and got to try it without too much wait. I say this, because you get to play only 5 minutes. And if you know what 5 minutes means for a souls games (as in being absolutely piss poor), you understand why I didn't have to wait 2 hours and why I probably wouldn't have.
With that in mind, do consider that with such a short time, I believe it's almost impossible to formulate what the game will actually be like. I noted a few cool stuff (and some less cool) but if anything, it just made me curious of what's behind the rest of the game.
So by now you people know the locale where the demo took place. What I noticed is that the world seems already way more detailed. There's lots of little touches here and there which made the world pop a little bit more.
Graphically, it's pretty. It's not the most visually impressive thing like the order and whatnot but it certainly does a very very good job at what's it's trying to convey (damp, sinister victorian-type town).
Funny enough, a lot of the sounds and sometimes effect were just straight off taken from the souls games. Ladders and the "molotov cocktail" make the exact same sound. The effect for the molotov itself is very similar. Animations are also reused sometimes like climbing and whatnot.
The thing I liked the most is when I got to that first big alley after climbing the ladder. You're kind of on this double level street and below you, you see these villagers roaming about with torches, prowling in the night, obviously looking for someone, or probably you. I really liked that and it kinda falls in line with, i guess, what the devs said about npcs actively looking for you across the city. You'll have to pay more attention to ennemies as it'll be easier for them to sneak up on you.
Combat is very similar to Souls yet has that one little difference in that you have no shield, and the shotgun instead. Meaning that instead of the usual block/dodge, wait, attack, you can go for a much more aggressive playstyle of sidestepping (that sidestep by the way, really cool. It replaces the lateral dodge and you have a nice control over it), shooting mid range ennemies and slashing away close ones.
Other than that, the combat and control scheme is pretty much like a souls game. Lock on with R3, attack and such, use items. I didn't manage to make my machete in a badass scythe like in the trailer.
I did notice that if you press left and right on the pad, my left hand would switch between the gun and a torch, and my right would switch between the machete and bare-handed, so that pretty much confirms an inventory and multiple weapons and whatnot.
By the time I got a grip of how to fight the enemies though, it was already over. I was really disappointed by not being able to try more. But that's gamescom for you.
My BIGGEST worry so far though is the framerate. The game is struggling to keep it around 20 fps most of the time (I don't think it ever really reached 30 while i was playing) while there weren't a lot of stuff happening. It was almost too low sometimes for me to be able to play properly, especially considering now that the combat is much more aggressive. If they don't optimize this, it's gonna be very bad when it releases. And From doesn't exactly have a track record in that departement and I dunno how much Japan studio is helping them on that so fingers crossed.
A minor complain, on the other side, but which I feel can be almost more important, is that so far what i've played made it almost too much like a souls game. A good souls game, mind you, a very good one. But the amount of reused sounds and sometimes animations, you'd think "Dark souls 3/Demon souls 2/Whatever souls" could easily be a subtitle but they called it bloodborne just to make it sound less repetitive.
If anything, pleased with what I saw with some reservation. Honestly, I just want to see more gameplay and new ennemies that aren't humanoids
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Any impressions the lighting - does it make up from the disappointment of Dark Souls 2?
Do we need to start this already? The game's looking great so far and even in the early beta footage, press said it was a looker.
So far on the graphical side, everything just seems better. Better shaders and textures and lighting.
Although I haven't run in a situation where I have to use the torch for example. In the area I played in, everything was clear enough to just roam around normally
But it's certainly a good looking game, and definitively prettier than Dark souls 2 there's no doubt about that
Your concern is unwarranted. They've used the same type of menu on Dark Souls 1 and 2 for trade shows.
whoa, you could play as Solaire or a Black night in the Dark Souls trade show demo? Cool, never knew that. Seems like an odd choice for playable classes to show off.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Old build showing us when torches are handy and how dark it can get:
Lighting for the new build:
Really good find, man. Looks so fucking good.
Sorry, my bad. It was short for Uncharted 4, as in, if From and other devs not known for pushing visuals can do this, imagine what the kings of console graphics can and will do. That's why I was making a loose comparison to UC4, maybe what we saw can really be achieved by them (OT and all, sorry)
here is the second video, the blue light ruined the footage but those two videos are the best I got
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6g2yYmt08o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6g2yYmt08o
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Good to hear about the lighting.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
GOD DAMNIT EL TORRO HELP FROM SOFTWARE WITH THE FUCKING FRAME RATE
Hmm, regarding those impressions on the fps, I hope they iron things out. I'm hoping they manage to get it running at 30 at all times. Since this game promotes agressive playtstyle the framerate has to keep up, otherwise it will be a mess.
There's still maybe 6 months to polish things up, and that build may be a month or two old, no? So I'm gonna try to stay optimistic about it.
Truth be told, even though I'm one of those guys easily bothered by fluctuating fps, it never bothered me in Demon's (even though it clearly had some), so maybe it won't be too bad in person.
There's still maybe 6 months to polish things up, and that build may be a month or two old, no? So I'm gonna try to stay optimistic about it.
Truth be told, even though I'm one of those guys easily bothered by fluctuating fps, it never bothered me in Demon's (even though it clearly had some), so maybe it won't be too bad in person.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Bloodborne has some nice music !
The Xtortionist
Member
So it's Midgar 2.0? Niiiiiice
dddooozzz9
Neo Member
Thanks for shooting.
Imru al-Qays
Banned
FalsettoVibe
Member
This no lock on stuff is ridiculous
dddooozzz9
Neo Member
Imru’ al-Qays;125961476 said:Please lock on
Please see this video. This game still has lock on system.
http://youtu.be/uc7wEsaYL50
They're just complaining about people playing the demo who don't use the lock-on feature.
Yeah that's the same thing I heard, "liberal" use of what is in city bounds... but that the majority takes place in the city. Either way, awesome if you're right. I hope there's a country awaiting me outside ;P
Lucent
Member
Man...even in these videos, you can tell just how much of a leap from last gen this game has taken. It looks really good. All they have to do is polish it up and get it to at least a stable 30fps and I'm good.
Also loved how those villagers just swarmed him and punished him. The lighting off of all of their torches was really cool. Really can't wait for some direct feed.
And lol at the random chair just sitting outside.
Stone Ocean
Member
The framerate has significantly improved between the 3 builds we've seen of the game so far, and they still have 6 months to iron things out, I don't expect 30fps with no dips whatsoever but I wouldn't be worried about the performance of the game.
Brian_FETO
Banned
This is purely speculation/wishful thinking but I don't Sony would allow it to be released if the framerate was bad enough to hurt the game. Definitely won't get 60 FPS and it'll probably dip in some sections but I'd imagine Sony understands that the crowd this game appeals to is (for the most part) the crowd that cares about game feel and performance
I'm betting there will be an NPC sitting in that chair in the final game.
DoubleTake
Member
It doesnt look like whatever engine they used in Dark Souls 2 is being used for this one. Things look alot closer to what was in Demons/Dark1. Good thing IMO.
Also that footage looks great. No one is talking about the amount of Locked Doors! In that one video I saw maybe 5 different directions you could go, or arrive from the other side on. I'm so excited to have that sprawling interconnected world design back again!
anexanhume
Member
Lighting for the new build:
People ask what next gen consoles can actually due to improve games. This is an example. The lighting completely establishes the tone and atmosphere.
Wavering Radiant
Member
SolidSnakex
Member
In just two months since E3 they've already managed to make a pretty big improvement over the framerate in that build. The game still has another six or so months of development to go.
Pound_lb003
Member
yea the game looks great, it's not the best ps4 game out there, but it looks really good and you can tell it's a current-gen game and not a cross gen or something, also I love the art direction
Orthogonal
Member
The engine has no bearing on the art direction of the game. This is the same engine, just with different assets.
Concerning the bonfire, in the old leaked trailer we saw what may be Bloodborne's equivalent to the bonfire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zTBFUnm1hYU#t=50
At around 0:50ish. This might not be though.
FPS question:
Bloodborne is currently my most anticipated game. Complaints of FPS issues have me a little worried, though, as sub-30 and not locked could be brutal for a game designed around aggressive play and "no room for mistakes". Knowing NOTHING about game development, can FPS be fixed (improved?) in 6-7 months without sacrificing other things (Resolution, IQ, lighting, etc.)??
Bloodborne is currently my most anticipated game. Complaints of FPS issues have me a little worried, though, as sub-30 and not locked could be brutal for a game designed around aggressive play and "no room for mistakes". Knowing NOTHING about game development, can FPS be fixed (improved?) in 6-7 months without sacrificing other things (Resolution, IQ, lighting, etc.)??
Yes, that's what FROM basically did with Demon's Souls, it ran like shit at shows before it got released.
DoubleTake
Member
By "look" i mean animations and the weight everything seems to have to it not art direction. I can tell from the walking animations to the unlocked roll that whatever engine they used or modifications they made in Dark Souls 2 arent being used here. Which is a good thing.
Sure. If a game this far out has problems of that sort, it's not some insurmountable problem. Unstable/undercooked builds brought to shows are the norm, not the exception.