Btw, a rumor said that "Pokkén Fighters" was the name of Amiibo figurines that will come with the game which will add additional fighters to the game. That would be sweet, I hate paying for DLC fighter which I've already downloaded with the latest update. Now I'll get a sweet Pokémon figurne with DLC.
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Pokken Tournament co-developed with Harada and Namco Bandai Announced for arcades
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I mean Live & Reloaded for the original Xbox. Technically not HD, but a higher resolution version of the original.
Nintendo should have demanded a console version at the same time. Arcades are dead everywhere except one country in the world so this game will be irrelevant for a while. I don't see the upside for Nintendo letting Scamco make bank first at arcades, it's their IP after all...
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
shhhh logic does not apply here
Nintendo going the way of Sega, releasing their properties on arcades only and getting out of the console race. Nintendo 3rd party confirmed, it is known khaleesi.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
This really isn't the thread for that anyway and I probably shouldn't have mentioned it at all. Just a small theory based on market realities.
I wonder what the roster is going to be. Fighting game inspired by Tekken and fighting types definitely seems the most logical.
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Deleted member 17706
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Do you think sales of a potential Wii U version will suffer in any significant way because of previously released arcade version? When has this ever happened for any home console fighting game?
OricWindstar
Member
Cool, thanks!
OmegaSmash
Member
Announcing a console version this early would make arcade owners wary of buying the arcade units since they'd feel that most people would just opt for playing the game first on consoles.
Better balancing, bug testing, getting feedback, good way to gain word of mouth from players. And do you seriously think that Nintendo WON'T make money from the arcade release?
Tyrant Rave
Banned
We get a more balanced game with less bugs
Ragingnight
Member
not only to mention the balance testing and competitive feedback. Having a new fighter released in arcades and specifically for japan makes the game better (usually) in the long run.
Nintendo will get a cut of the money, its not like Namco just gets to make money on an Arcade release while Nintendo gets nothing.....
Also are people forgetting stuff like Mario Kart GP? Nintendo and Namco have a very good relationship as far as Arcade releases go so this really shouldn't be shocking or worrying to anyone.
That would have resulted in the console release potentially being a broken mess. Arcade releases are where they iron out the bugs & balance out potentially-over/underpowered characters. From there they can make the console release the best it can possibly be. It worked with the Tekken games, it'll do the same here.
Arcade fighters are better than console fighters for many reasons demonstrated in other posts.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
http://pokebeach.com/2014/08/furious-fists
I have a feeling that the Furious Fists TCG set will have an influence on the roster. Start placing your bets!
Can't wait for Scrafty vs Pangoro punk wars
EDIT Oh god what did Jynx do to Machamp
Other than the three we already know about, I think these would probably be good choices for the game, a lot of variety in type, design and gens. And this is restricting it to fighting types only for now.
-Wrestler Pikachu
-Hitmonlee
-Hitmonchan
-Hitmontop
-Heracross
-Breloom
-Hariyama
-Lopunny
-Toxicroak
-Gallade
-Conkeldurr
-Throh
-Sawk
-Scrafty
-Mienshao
-Chesnaught
-Pangoro
-Hawlucha
As for legendaries:
-Mewtwo
-Keldeo
-Meloetta
-Wrestler Pikachu
-Hitmonlee
-Hitmonchan
-Hitmontop
-Heracross
-Breloom
-Hariyama
-Lopunny
-Toxicroak
-Gallade
-Conkeldurr
-Throh
-Sawk
-Scrafty
-Mienshao
-Chesnaught
-Pangoro
-Hawlucha
As for legendaries:
-Mewtwo
-Keldeo
-Meloetta
OricWindstar
Member
That's true, it'll be interesting to see if this is Nintendo's first full on "EVO-ready" game.
Part of it is also the money they make out of selling characters specific cards(to keep track with your progress with the character). Namco Bandai try to not talk about the console version until close to release, so people keep buying cards for as long as possible instead of waiting for the console version where they can play whoever they want anytime.
This guy gets it. Nintendo & Namco are serious about this game, they want the FGC to adopt this game & for it to have a long competitive life. The arcade release will ensure that.
At the very least, Pokkén is guaranteed for EVO 2016 if they keep up the good work.
SomeLurker
Member
I'm at work so could a fellow gaffer shout for me in excitement?
Scamco? One of the guys producing this (Harada) is one of very few people fighting against paid DLC characters* (and similar junk), right? TTT2 bonus characters were all free time unlocks. This is a trust worthy team. The extra time TTT2 had in the oven made it a pretty damn well balanced title.
*someone's gonna mention Tekken Rev, you still don't have to pay, and it a completely diff business model
There is no downside to an arcade first release...
Home console releases typically have more characters, features, fixed fighting mechanics, and then some.
I'd much rather have that than a flawed fighting game. We don't want another Jojo's All Star Battle to happen where the game falls flat on expectations.
We should be happy that this is real and that we will definitely get an updated or definitive version for consoles.
No mention in the interviews or lifestream but some big arcades may decide to import machines much like they do with many games like DJ Maxx, BlazBlue, etc.
There will be a "release", but an official localized one is for consoles.
Home console releases typically have more characters, features, fixed fighting mechanics, and then some.
I'd much rather have that than a flawed fighting game. We don't want another Jojo's All Star Battle to happen where the game falls flat on expectations.
We should be happy that this is real and that we will definitely get an updated or definitive version for consoles.
inb4 Gen is the king of Pokken, JDCR's going down.
No mention in the interviews or lifestream but some big arcades may decide to import machines much like they do with many games like DJ Maxx, BlazBlue, etc.
There will be a "release", but an official localized one is for consoles.
You want to get people thirsty for a game? Release it somewhere that only one group can play it and watch people go nuts over any footage that gets out. So that gets people interested for sure.
Then as has been discussed numerous times, balance checks are a big factor with arcade releases. Doing it this way can prevent some major issues from making it in to home console versions. In doing this it also helps Nintendo to not release a subpar product to the masses after heavy exploitation and use of the game has already been done by a wider demographic than an internal playtest group.
Assuming the game is good, after having a refined version and people watching and scrounging for any videos of the game in action they can find, you'll get a pretty huge initial release for the game on home consoles.
So tell me again how it's bad that Nintendo is basically getting it set up so that the version they get is the one everyone wants?
Exactly what he said. Harada is one of the most trustworthy developers in the FGC. Pokkén is in good hands.
Zeyphersan
Banned
I would enter tournaments for this game
Geminosity
Member
It just occurred to me that Lucario, the pokemon shown in prettymuch every shot of this game so far, takes double damage from fighting moves :3
OmegaSmash
Member
No, but it might be possible seeing as the latest Mario Kart GP is being released in the west.
StreetsAhead
Member
On that note, I wonder if typing will affect game play at all?
Save 'N Quit
Banned
I need to play this.
I have to play this.
I have to play this.
Lucario will probably be a glass cannon.
Anyway, hopefully they incorporate non-fighting-type Pokémon, or else they'd miss their chance at Pikachu (who's pretty much the face of the franchise). Likewise, many other Pokémon like Jigglypuff, Greninja, Mewtwo, & Charizard are popular enough to justify their inclusion in Pokkén (even though most of Jigg's popularity comes from Smash). Greninja is too perfect for this game despite not having a fighting typing, & Mewtwo does have a fighting-type mega evolution.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Wishing for Raichu
We'llprobably get Luchador Pikachu instead.
We'll
There's so much they could do with non-fighting types. There's some great variety in 'Mons.
Please don't mention that jokey, cheesy, chaplin-esque terrible excuse for a 'horror series' to a true survival title like Luigi's Mansion.
Please don't mention that jokey, cheesy, chaplin-esque terrible excuse for a 'horror series' to a true survival title like Luigi's Mansion.
/s
At the very least, we'll get the Pokémon that made it into Smash.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Have you ever tried to move around two extra arms? It's taxing doing two separate things in tandem with the two I've got.
Now, THIS is something that I think will remain to be seen.
I mean, it's cool that some competitive Smash players are already seemingly on-board, and I even saw Justin Wong tweet about the game an hour or so ago about how he wanted to play it.
I just hope it will actually translate to having a decent and consistent community being built up, if the game is actually good. If it got at least a good portion of that Melee crowd...
My baseless roster accounting for variety and roster limit:
Gen I: Charizard, Primeape, Machamp, Alakazam, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Kabutops, Dragonite, Mewtwo
Gen II: Ampharos, Sudowoodo, Scizor, Heracross, Ursaring, Hitmontop, Blissey
Gen III: Sceptile, Blaziken, Swampert, Shiftry, Gardevoir, Medicham, Deoxys
Gen IV: Roserade, Ambipom, Lopunny, Garchomp, Lucario, Weavile, Regigigas
Gen V: Scrafty, Zoroark, Gothitelle, Ferrothorn, Bisharp, Meleotta, Genesect
Gen VI: Chesnaught, Delphox, Greninja, Florges, Aegislash, Hawlucha, Diancie
Unexpected additions: Pikachu (don't see Pikachu being the mascot of the game in addition to Pokemon Conquest or Rangers), Jigglypuff, Snorlax, Farfetch'd, Mr. Mime, Wobbuffet, Oshawatt
Gen I: Charizard, Primeape, Machamp, Alakazam, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Kabutops, Dragonite, Mewtwo
Gen II: Ampharos, Sudowoodo, Scizor, Heracross, Ursaring, Hitmontop, Blissey
Gen III: Sceptile, Blaziken, Swampert, Shiftry, Gardevoir, Medicham, Deoxys
Gen IV: Roserade, Ambipom, Lopunny, Garchomp, Lucario, Weavile, Regigigas
Gen V: Scrafty, Zoroark, Gothitelle, Ferrothorn, Bisharp, Meleotta, Genesect
Gen VI: Chesnaught, Delphox, Greninja, Florges, Aegislash, Hawlucha, Diancie
Unexpected additions: Pikachu (don't see Pikachu being the mascot of the game in addition to Pokemon Conquest or Rangers), Jigglypuff, Snorlax, Farfetch'd, Mr. Mime, Wobbuffet, Oshawatt
OricWindstar
Member
AHAHKSDHKJSHGKH! NEW POKEMON FIGHTING GAME!!! THERE IS A GOD!!!!
how was that?
That's true, but Nintendo need this game ASAP not in 2016.
Release on Wii U in 2015, and you know actually patch the game 6 months later. It's not like the majority of people who will buy this will stick with it for longer than a few months, they'll go back to Smash/SF/MVC etc
Or do people think a 100 or whatever arcade centres is better feedback on balancing than a million + first week sales on the Wii U. The majority of players won't give a shit about broken characters or that insert pokemon got 1 frame shaved off his poke thanks to arcade balancing. They will never get on a level for that shit to matter.
It's not like Nintendo can sit on a game like this for a year after arcade release.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
She used Lovely Kiss, of course! Jynx is far more likely than people think. She was re-trademarked last year before X and Y came out, so everybody, myself included, assumed she would get a Mega Evolution because every other Pokémon on that list got one. Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed when I found out that she was literally the only Pokémon on the list that didn't get a Mega Evolution, but maybe this is why they trademarked her?