fengshuifever
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My man. Licence to Kill is my favourite Bond flick.
Also to echo everyone here, yes, Die Another Die.
Not just a terrible Bond flick, but a terrible movie in general.
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Worst James Bond movie - pick one
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My man. Licence to Kill is my favourite Bond flick.
Also to echo everyone here, yes, Die Another Die.
Not just a terrible Bond flick, but a terrible movie in general.
Bobby Roberts
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The only "good" Roger Moore movie is "The Spy Who Loved Me," really. All the rest of them (even For Your Eyes Only) are shitty to mediocre at best.
I love how mean it is. That Bond gives zero fucks. People talk about bond being a cold-blooded sociopath, but they basically made him a turbocharged episode of classic Miami Vice and then dropped him into it, and it's really fucking fun to watch.
Delta Assault
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Yeah, I always really liked The Spy Who Loved Me. It's got the best theme song too.
Die Another Day. At least Diamonds has a couple of good lines ("You've caught me with more than my hands up") and View To A Kill and Man With The Golden Gun are both somewhat salvaged by their villains. DAD has almost nothing going for it. However, if Never Say Never Again counts - which it doesn't - it takes the title every time. Horrible, horrible movie.
Bobby Roberts
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Most definitely. I love that part when the chorus is winding down and this horn part kicks in just as the song starts fading out.
Robot Pants
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Tomorrow Never Dies
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It's Die Another Day. It's all bad. Surfing into North Korea? A Korean with surgery to look British? An invisible car with a Speed Racer-like battle on CGI ice? And Halle "why do you have an Oscar??" Berry.
Except I kinda think that Madonna's opening song is so bad that it loops around to being ironically good. I was in stitches when I first heard it... Now I think it's kinda catchy.
I actually like Moonraker. So much cheesy camp.. I can't hate it.
And I actually legitimately love Quantum of Solace... The conflict is unimportant, but I can really turn my brain off and enjoy the Bond schmoozing and actioning. I actually think I enjoy watching it more than the other Craig films.
Except I kinda think that Madonna's opening song is so bad that it loops around to being ironically good. I was in stitches when I first heard it... Now I think it's kinda catchy.
I actually like Moonraker. So much cheesy camp.. I can't hate it.
And I actually legitimately love Quantum of Solace... The conflict is unimportant, but I can really turn my brain off and enjoy the Bond schmoozing and actioning. I actually think I enjoy watching it more than the other Craig films.
BigJonsson
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Die Another Day, Octopussy or Moonraker
Emperor Bohe
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Bobby Roberts
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I've often said that Quantum of Solace only really works when you treat it as if it's essentially DLC for Casino Royale, but you just made me realize it's also the only Bond movie that also plays less like a movie, and more like you're watching a Lets Play of a Bond game.
I like it enough, though. It's middle of the pack in the overall rankings.
I can only begin to imagine how Goldeneye would've been with Dalton as Bond instead of Brosnan. I don't mean to criticize Brosnan with that statement though (he certainly looked the part but was a bit... "soft"? in terms of character), but IIRC Goldeneye was written with Dalton in mind.
Delta Assault
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Yeah, that is great. But at the end of the day, what pulls me in is just the playful energy and exuberance of the hugely talented Carly Simon.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I can see that analogy... But I actually don't have a deep love of Casino Royale, so I am legitimately enjoying it on it's own merits. Maybe by being a coda to CR, it jettisons the need to be the typically extravagant Bond four-course meal, and skips to dessert (flirting and shooting).
JehutyRunner
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Have to laugh at those saying Skyfall or Casino Royale. Both of those movies are easily in the upper echelon of Bond movies. Skyfall is actually, thinking about it, my favourite Bond film ever. Not that Daniel Craig has been flawless (hello, QoS), but he otherwise has a good tracking record (if you consider a good tracking record being two great movies out of three).
But yes, obvious answer for worst: Die Another Day. My mum bought me it on DVD after I begged her to get me it and 24 Season 1 on DVD (I was 12 at the time so I was easily stupid to think DAD was going to be amazing). To say I got more out of 24 would be an understatement.
But yes, obvious answer for worst: Die Another Day. My mum bought me it on DVD after I begged her to get me it and 24 Season 1 on DVD (I was 12 at the time so I was easily stupid to think DAD was going to be amazing). To say I got more out of 24 would be an understatement.
skyfall
lawl, skyfall has like the worst writing ever, almost as bad as dark knight rises. I walked out of both of those films.
lawl, skyfall has like the worst writing ever, almost as bad as dark knight rises. I walked out of both of those films.
Bobby Roberts
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I legitimately like it for how fast it is. I do like that it's got the shortest run time. I wish the story hadn't been hamstrung by the one two of the writer's strike and by Marc Forster's fumbling of that script (He is very ill-suited to big budget action movies, so I don't know why he keeps making them). But it definitely proves that you can make a Bond movie without the mandatory half-hour of empty calories hanging around every other Bond film's gut. EVERY ONE OF THEM but Quantum is at least a half-hour too long.
metalslimer
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I really hated The Man with The Golden Gun but I haven't seen all of the Bond movies yet
Skyfall's writing is god tier compared to some of the other Bond entries. I can understand not liking Skyfall (it was certainly too long), but I can't understand anyone who can think it is the worse.
Skyfall's writing is god tier compared to some of the other Bond entries. I can understand not liking Skyfall (it was certainly too long), but I can't understand anyone who can think it is the worse.
kunonabi
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Worst bond films for me have always been
Diamonds are forever
Ohmss
License to kill
Quantum of solace
Octopussy
Die another day for brosnan
Absolute worst would be diamonds are forever. It's the only one that has no redeeming qualities for me. Quantum of solace is pretty darn close to being the worst though.
Diamonds are forever
Ohmss
License to kill
Quantum of solace
Octopussy
Die another day for brosnan
Absolute worst would be diamonds are forever. It's the only one that has no redeeming qualities for me. Quantum of solace is pretty darn close to being the worst though.
View to a Kill is the only Moore movie that I actually like, half of that is probably just the Duran Duran song for the intro making it more tolerable for me. I'd probably vote for Thunderball since it just drags so much. Really though I'll still watch any Bond movie that comes on tv over whatever else is on.
TheLostBigBoss
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What in the fuck
While it is miles better than DAD, I don't get how anyone can call Skyfall a good movie.
I mean, what was it even about? The changing nature of intellegence gathering in an increasingly digital world? A hero left for dead who manages come back for one more mission? A fallen agent seeking revenge on the one who left him to die? The friend zoning of Moneypenny? Fucking pick a plot movie! Hell, pick any two of them just comit to it and quit half-stepping only to drop plot threads when the start to inconvenience you!
Delta Assault
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I think it was about... really liking "The Dark Knight." And then "Home Alone."
Zombie James
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neurosisxeno
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It had incredible cinematography and scene composition. The story was about... who fucking cares EXPLOSIONS SEX VIOLENCE JAMES BOND RAWWWWWWWRRRRRR. Seriously, has a James Bond movie every had a plot that wasn't pants on head retarded?
JimmyRustler
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Took long enough for someone to enter the thread and name the best Bond movie as the worst. I expected this in post 3 or 4. GAF, I am disappoint.
A lot of people speak derisively of Die Another Day when mentioning it within the same breath as what came after (Casino Royale). The deathly serious tone of the latter for some makes Brosnan's last come off even worse. But I don't see it this way. They make perfectly a contrasting duo of Bond experiences. Modern Bond at the peak of tacky excess, and post-modern (sorry) Bond at its most serious. Watching The Craig films makes me like the Brosnan ones even more. The Craig films aspire to be above its predecessors and practically beg aloud to be taken seriously, so in watching them I judge them more harshly. I would actually be willing to watch Die Another Day again before seeing Quantum of Solace once more.
Maybe this is the opinion of an insane person, but I thing actually love Die Another Day. It's the height of franchise decadence in terms of its inherent silliness, and it doesn't even have to resort to rampant misogyny to be overflowing with ridiculous glee. Ice palaces, (invisible) car chase through said ice palace, giant space laser, two strong Bond girls, a secretly great Bond villain (a Bond doppelgänger without the heroism) -- all within a narrative that isn't even one the dumbest ones of Bond history.
It'd be even better if it weren't for Madonna and the surfing scene (I can't defend these things).
Diamonds is way worse, anyway.
Maybe this is the opinion of an insane person, but I thing actually love Die Another Day. It's the height of franchise decadence in terms of its inherent silliness, and it doesn't even have to resort to rampant misogyny to be overflowing with ridiculous glee. Ice palaces, (invisible) car chase through said ice palace, giant space laser, two strong Bond girls, a secretly great Bond villain (a Bond doppelgänger without the heroism) -- all within a narrative that isn't even one the dumbest ones of Bond history.
It'd be even better if it weren't for Madonna and the surfing scene (I can't defend these things).
Diamonds is way worse, anyway.
To Far Away Times
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Never Say Never Again was really bad, even Sean Connery couldn't save it.
I was gonna say Goldeneye but then I remembered Trevelyan did all that shit just to hack and rob a bank (or something like that). Then I thought... well, maybe The Living Daylights, but that has a somewhat historically unfortunate last act in Afghanistan, even though I like the general plot (agents dropping dead, shady arms dealing fueling the fires of war, etc.)
So... Casino Royale, maybe? Small-scale plot, tight narrative, the main villain isn't the head honcho of the organization (not even close), some good plot twists, a good origin story that plants the seeds of what Bond could become in the future (aka his depiction in previous movies) while keeping him a different, rougher character.
I think Dr. No and From Russia's plot are simple.
I would say For Your Eyes only, but that's just a MacGuffin chase
License to Kill?
mariachi507
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TheRedSnifit
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Are we actually discussing plot in a James Bond thread? Goldeneye is generally regarded as one of the better ones (if not the best) and it's about using satellite lasers to rob banks and a woman who throttles people with her legs.
Skyfall has great action, great cinematography, and sex. If you see Bond movies for any reason besides those, I don't know what to tell you.
I came to post this.
Yeah maybe, but at least they were about something, and stuck with that something, even to the point of lunacy.
Skyfall couldn't even get that right.
neurosisxeno
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It's probably the closest thing I can think of. It's just weird to me that people are complaining about probably the most well composed Bond film because it had poor writing when the entire series is pretty much defined by cheesy crap writing. It wasn't until Casino Royale that they actually started taking Bond films seriously.
Quantum of Solace happened during a writers strike so it stands out so horribly compared to Casino Royale because it's almost a return to that poorly written wasteland that is Bond Films pre-Casino Royale.
Yes, it was about space lasers (actually space bombs, but close enough). But what was Skyfall about? I really couldn't tell, i don't think they knew either.
I know I'm going to be sold a bunch of nonsense plot-wise in a Bond movie, and that's fine becuase that's what I came to purchase. But I couldn't even follow Skyfall's sales pitch.
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