Lol do you really believe this shit?? Of course you can and you should!
With your train of thought any critisims or caricature of religion should not be allowed "because people practice it".
Do you really think it should not be allowed to criticizes or make fun of a particular religion?
But whatever i dont want to derail this thread any more so thats the last word from me on this.
You're trying way too hard to take what I say and run home here. I haven't said anything about criticizing religion or denying any other free speak about religion. I'm talking about a very specific scenario. Thats (
(a) one poster literally saying fuck a whole billion people group of people because a sub group of extremists decided to wreak havoc. Saying shit like its a "logical conclusion" or. "People are unreliable and petty and nobody can be trusted with religion."
(b) you sitting here and displaying a profound ignorance of what religion is.
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Im a proud supporter of free speech, but I also realize sweeping generalizations about any major ethnicity is usually frowned upon and usually is piss poor taste.
Fucking disgusting. These people are evil, worthless scum, and I hope they are erased from the surface of the Earth sooner rather than later.
But also, I wish people (here and elsewhere) would stop being so damn apologetic towards religion. "This isn't Islam", etc. Isn't it? It's a version of Islam that doesn't align with most modem interpretations, that's for sure, but do you honestly think these people don't believe they are acting in accordance with their religion? They call themselves the "Islamic State", for fuck's sake. Most of what they're doing, if not everything, is probably supported by some passage in their holy book, and they probably really do believe with all their hearts they're acting in accordance with what their god wants. In the end, it's really just another manifestation of the ridiculous pick-and-choose nature of religions based on old books. It's just a particularly extreme, vile one. Who's to say their interpretation is wrong and yours is right, just because theirs goes against everything a civilized person would consider decent? What makes their version any less valid, if it is indeed somehow supported by some interpretation (all pretty much equally arbitrary) of the texts? While I obviously think these people's actions are undefendable, I'm not so sure they're following a less "true" version of Islam. You picking the parts YOU think are defendable and dismissing everything else as "not Islam" (or whichever religion we happen to be talking about) doesn't necessarily make your version any more right. But I'm getting a bit carried away here. Again, stop being so defensive and apologetic toward religion. It's not a "protected" subject that cannot be criticized. Or at least it shouldn't be.
I felt like this was aimed at me, so I'll reply.
First off ISIS is a radical group that isn't even recognized as a muslim state. They came out of the gates announcing laws and principles that
nobody in Islam have ever practiced, which is why they've garnered so little support, even amongst other radical Muslims. Just because some clowns woke up one day and decided to call themselves Muslim doesn't mean they should be considered Muslim and used to be judged as Muslims.
Secondly, I really can't comprehend you're mini-rant in the second paragraph. Are you really arguing for ethical discrimination and ethnic mocking? And the fact that you described religion as pick and choose really shows your level of understanding of it.
People don't pick and choose certain aspects to follow in
their religion. Religion is a personal faith, even though in some religions many people gather and practice. But many times people who claim to follow certain religions have differing faith or beliefs on certain things. That's why there are denominations, sub-groups of people who believe that the way they interpret a religion is correct.
ISIS is neither here nor there. They aren't even recognized by anybody as an Islamic caliph, which is coincidentally there biggest reason for all this chest thumping.
Anyways, I really hope you change your monist view toward religion.