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[frostshade]

CG Stella plz Square.

So is this like a prologue or something?

 

[Elios83]

The wording of the announcement, which I linked in my previous post. We can both go on thinking whatever and one of us will probably end up right, but the wording of that announcement strongly suggests there will be a paid demo.

I'm having flashbacks to e3 2013 right now where people were sure FFXV and KH3 were PS4 exclusives because they didn't pay attention to the language of the announcements.

But we'll see.

Free if you buy Type-Zero, probably paid if you want to get just the demo.
Which won't be called a demo but a prologue.
They did the same with Dissidia, no surprise here.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

so, is there a thread spelling out the differences between Type-0 HD and the PSP release? Now that we know when it comes out, i want to know what to expect.

 

[Damerman]

unsubstantiated? bullshit?

He just restated what's written in the OP. It's exactly that, Square Enix repaying its devoted fans, who've been waiting for 8+ years, with a paid demo.

There is NO official announcement for a paid demo... therefore its unsubstantiated. He came up with his own conjecture. There is, however, an announcement that you get access to the demo if you purchase a game, which is something that has been done since forever, without said publisher actually releasing said demo for money. If you can post a time where a demo came free with a game, and then was sold separately, then your conjecture can graduate to a theory, but till then... its just conjecture.

 

[Tagg9]

So I'm guessing the devs at Square are going to kill themselves in the next six months in order to get a vertical slice demo out, and that it will be totally unrepresentative of the final game when it releases in 2017.

 

[Skilletor]

All of you rejoicing... like Squeenix is redeemed through this bullshit of a deal after 8 years of wait (around 9 years by the time the demo is out).

Well, if the game is good then that's what really matters so whatever

Couldn't care less how long the game has taken. I've had other stuff to do. I'm getting to play a game I want to play sooner than I thought. So, yeah, happy.

Funny that other people looking forward to a game seems to bother others.

 

[Vashetti]

Well this was a nice megaton to wake up to.

I wonder with the mention that people who buy Type-O get the demo for free, whether they'll sell it separately to those who don't buy it.

Could potentially see a physical release like Ground Zeroes if it's substantial enough.

 

[MaximumSpider]

Just pre-ordered for PS4.
Letsago

 

[GayForMaster]

Holy fuck, buying Type-0 just for the demo, although type-0 looks interesting enough.

 

[Famassu]

Now: OMG OMG HYPE HYPE HYPE ZOMG NO WAYYYYYY!!!!

Then: Meh, it wasn't very good. They can't ever do anything. Why do I fall for it every time?

Seriously, why? WHY? I don't understand hypers.

Square Enix is still capable of making great games that a lot of people enjoy. FFXV itself gets hyped because it seems to be doing a lot of things right (a large world filled with stuff to do that opens up to exploration as you progress in the game, a refreshingly different modern day-ish setting, combat that looks totally cray-cray and possibly extremely fun, a story that so far is seemingly avoiding most of the antics some FFs like FFXIII have had etc.) and its dev team is filled with SQEX veterans and talented new(-ish)comers, helmed by a creative person I personally have a lot of respect for. Even if it doesn't end up being a huge paradigm shift in gaming or a perfect game devoid of flaws, it can still be an extremely enjoyable experience as a whole.

 

[HeartlessNobody213]

Just pre-ordered for PS4.
Letsago

Going to do this later. Will be only the 2nd game I've ever pre-ordered.

 

[brandonh83]

This is something I would have made a joke about less than 24 hours ago. Holy shit.

 

[ZSeba]

unsubstantiated? bullshit?

He just restated what's written in the OP. It's exactly that, Square Enix repaying its devoted fans, who've been waiting for 8+ years, with a paid demo.

B...but I'm getting it for free*

 

[SkyTurnsRed]

I'm not sure why people are so upset about the demo coming with the game. Can someone explain? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, I really do not understand the reasoning and would like to know. This isn't the first time it has happened so I'm a bit confused.

 

[SteveO1683]

We still doing the whole NoVitaNoBuy thing? I don't think I can hold out if we are.

 

[The Last One]

Square Enix is still capable of making great games that a lot of people enjoy. FFXV itself gets hyped because it seems to be doing a lot of things right (a large world filled with stuff to do that opens up to exploration as you progress in the game, a refreshingly different modern day-ish setting, combat that looks totally cray-cray and possibly extremely fun, a story that so far is seemingly avoiding most of the antics some FFs like FFXIII have had etc.) and its dev team is filled with SQEX veterans and talented new(-ish)comers, helmed by a creative person I personally have a lot of respect for. Even if it doesn't end up being a huge paradigm shift in gaming or a perfect game devoid of flaws, it can still be an extremely enjoyable experience as a whole.

I like you.

 

[Ambition]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

 

[BadWolf]

All of you rejoicing... like Squeenix is redeemed through this bullshit of a deal after 8 years of wait (around 9 years by the time the demo is out).

Well, if the game is good then that's what really matters so whatever

The big mistake they made is revealing it that early.

It hasn't been in full production nearly that long.

 

[ConceptX]

I'm not sure why people are so upset about the demo coming with the game. Can someone explain? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, I really do not understand the reasoning and would like to know. This isn't the first time it has happened so I'm a bit confused.

Seems people have automatically assumed it's a paid demo if they don't buy Type-0, which would be ridiculous, so rabblerabblerabble mode engaged.

I'm looking forward to both immensely. Fantastic news.

 

[Cagey]

Type-0 and the FFXV demo are probably what it will take for me to buy a PS4. No shame.

Woot just sold Lightning Returns FFXIII for $18, and well, I'm a sucker.

 

[Damerman]

I'm not sure why people are so upset about the demo coming with the game. Can someone explain? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, I really do not understand the reasoning and would like to know. This isn't the first time it has happened so I'm a bit confused.

they are trying to undermine Square's effort by pointing out that we are getting a "paid" demo for a game that has been delayed for 8 years. It comes off as malicious and just bitterly butthurt. I'm not sure what point you would be trying to make with comments like that other than to ruin people's genuine excitement for a game that could potentially be really good.

 

[JKRMA]

It's finally happening isn't it? If demo next year then FFXV should come out early 2016 right? How long did the full games come out after having the demo released for FFXII/FFXIII?

 

[SkyTurnsRed]

Seems people have automatically assumed it's a paid demo if they don't buy Type-0, which would be ridiculous, so rabblerabblerabble mode engaged.

I'm looking forward to both immensely. Fantastic news.

I see. I guess the press release was poorly worded. Thank you!

 

[Dead Prince]

Holy fuck, buying Type-0 just for the demo, although type-0 looks interesting enough.

Square enix looks at it this way. people willing to buy a demo.

i went ahead and preordered on amazon lol.

 

[pelicansurf]

Persona 5 and FFXV demo. 2015 complete.

 

[Zephyl]

All of you rejoicing... like Squeenix is redeemed through this bullshit of a deal after 8 years of wait (around 9 years by the time the demo is out).

Well, if the game is good then that's what really matters so whatever

They need a long way to go to redeem themselves in my book, I'm just happy there is progress for this game.

 

[zenosparadox]

Yeah, this could mean one of many things:
1. The demo is only available to Type-0 HD purchasers (i.e. a way to drive sales and generate FFXV hype)
2. The demo must be purchased for non-Type-0 HD purchasers
3. The demo will be available for free to everyone else at a later date
4. ???

 

[Steroyd]

I shall purchase this while crying at there being no [port beg].

Fucking Square, twisting my arm, arseholes.

 

[Wagram]

Square Enix is still capable of making great games that a lot of people enjoy. FFXV itself gets hyped because it seems to be doing a lot of things right (a large world filled with stuff to do that opens up to exploration as you progress in the game, a refreshingly different modern day-ish setting, combat that looks totally cray-cray and possibly extremely fun, a story that so far is seemingly avoiding most of the antics some FFs like FFXIII have had etc.) and its dev team is filled with SQEX veterans and talented new(-ish)comers, helmed by a creative person I personally have a lot of respect for. Even if it doesn't end up being a huge paradigm shift in gaming or a perfect game devoid of flaws, it can still be an extremely enjoyable experience as a whole.

I'm not saying that FFXV will be bad (hell I like all of the XIII titles) but i'm pretty sick of listening to hyping lately. Once games are released we have to listen to non stop bitching because the title couldn't hold a candle to the pedestal it was put on. I hope it does great, but no matter what SE does it will not meet expectations at this point.

 

[Paradise Brunch]

Yeah, this could mean one of many things:
1. The demo is only available to Type-0 HD purchasers (i.e. a way to drive sales and generate FFXV hype)
2. The demo must be purchased for non-Type-0 HD purchasers
3. The demo will be available for free to everyone else at a later date
4. ???

5. Profit

 

[Famassu]

The logical implication of this statement is that the demo will not be free for other players. You could certainly choose to ignore this phrasing and assume that they included the word "some" without thinking about it, but that seems a bit unlikely. Maybe not 100% though?

The wording of the announcement, which I linked in my previous post. We can both go on thinking whatever and one of us will probably end up right, but the wording of that announcement strongly suggests there will be a paid demo.

I'm having flashbacks to e3 2013 right now where people were sure FFXV and KH3 were PS4 exclusives because they didn't pay attention to the language of the announcements.

But we'll see.

Isn't that just Game Informer's reporting and not official wording? And with the "some people", Game Informer might just mean that Episode Duscae will never be released outside of Type-0 HD and only the "some people" who buy Type-0 HD will get to play it.

Free if you buy Type-Zero, probably paid if you want to get just the demo.
Which won't be called a demo but a prologue.
They did the same with Dissidia, no surprise here.

The Dissidia 012 Prologus thing was an ACTUAL prologue to the full game with a little bit of content that wasn't in Dissidia 012 proper. This will be an enhanced demo of the beginning of the game with no "new" content, just the beginning altered to work better as a demo.

 

[APZonerunner]

Here's the OT from the FF13 demo from back in the day, released under similar circumstances.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358538

There's lessons to be learned from that thread.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Seems people have automatically assumed it's a paid demo if they don't buy Type-0, which would be ridiculous, so rabblerabblerabble mode engaged.

I'm looking forward to both immensely. Fantastic news.

It's more likely the demo will be exclusive to Type 0 buyers.

 

[botty]

Here's the OT from the FF13 demo from back in the day, released under similar circumstances.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358538

There's lessons to be learned from that thread.

This could apply to any demo, but ok.

 

[brandonh83]

I'm not saying that FFXV will be bad (hell I like all of the XIII titles) but i'm pretty sick of listening to hyping lately. Once games are released we have to listen to non stop bitching because the title couldn't hold a candle to the pedestal it was put on. I hope it does great, but no matter what SE does it will not meet expectations at this point.

Sounds about right, but at the same time the extended development period sort of made this game feel like a myth, and there's repercussions to that. I think it will be really good, but the amount of time it's taking to get to players is going to have an impact on hype and expectations. I'm really excited for it but Square needs to get their shit together and stop doing stuff like this. Work on a project for a while, reveal it and give a release window, and just do it instead of announcing so prematurely without a solid game plan.

 

[Skilletor]

Here's the OT from the FF13 demo from back in the day, released under similar circumstances.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358538

There's lessons to be learned from that thread.

Eh. Most people thought the battle system was fun. Not many people thought running in a straight line would be indicative of the final game.

Why not point out the FF12 demo? The DIssidia demo? The Bravely Default demo?

 

[NoctisVsStar]

I wanted to play type-0 anyway I was willing to buy a vita if it ever came out on that system but the having a demo included is awesome. #PrinceNoctisRises

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

as a huge fan of the series who has found everything that has been said about 15 to be completely offputting, I am glad we are getting a demo. Hopefully it can change my mind.

 

[Philippo]

Here's the OT from the FF13 demo from back in the day, released under similar circumstances.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358538

There's lessons to be learned from that thread.

Which is? "Demo is awesome" = Game turns out worst of the series?

 

[NoctisVsStar]

as a huge fan of the series who has found everything that has been said about 15 to be completely offputting, I am glad we are getting a demo. Hopefully it can change my mind.

FFXV imo is pretty much KH-Remixed with FF elements, I guess if you like KH you're going to like XV

 

[Gbraga]

Now I'm really excited to replay FFXIII. Even if this was just a mistake, please release a collection on PS4 or something, S-E.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

It's finally happening isn't it? If demo next year then FFXV should come out early 2016 right? How long did the full games come out after having the demo released for FFXII/FFXIII?

FFXIII demo was out in March, and got a Japan release in December, and then NA in March of the following year. SE is probably trying to replicate that, since it seemed to do well for sales.

 

[brandonh83]

Now I'm really excited to replay FFXIII. Even if this was just a mistake, please release a collection on PS4 or something, S-E.

I would love to see XIII-2 and LR with improved textures for LR and improved frame rate for both. Oh and an option to play through LR without the Majora's Mask bullshit.

 

[Potionsmaster]

Which is? "Demo is awesome" = Game turns out worst of the series?

Probably to be cautious with hype...

 

[flatearthpandas]

I see. I guess the press release was poorly worded. Thank you!

That's actually the more extreme assumption, seeing as how it depends entirely on reality being different than the only announcement we've seen.

There is a world of difference between "there will be a downloadable FFXV demo that people who buy Type-0 will get a free voucher for" (what the announcement says) and "Type-0 comes with an exclusive free demo" (what everyone wishes the announcement said)

 

[Liquid-San]

I have high hopes for TGS this year with all of these hype-worthy leaks.

 

[Shin-Ra]

The Type-0 Japanese demo didn't really impress me at all so I'm not too thrilled if this is the only access to the XV demo.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

That's actually the more extreme assumption, seeing as how it depends entirely on reality being different than the only announcement we've seen.

There is a world of difference between "there will be a downloadable FFXV demo that people who buy Type-0 will get a free voucher for" (what the announcement says) and "Type-0 comes with an exclusive free demo" (what everyone wishes the announcement said)

I... don't see the difference between this? So SE is at fault for giving people who don't want to buy Type-0 an alternative means of getting the demo?

I think it's weird that people would feel better about this being exclusively with Type-0. Some gaffers have already played Type-0, didn't like it, and would like to play the FFXV demo, without having to pay as much.

The Type-0 Japanese demo didn't really impress me at all so I'm not too thrilled if this is the only access to the XV demo.

Case and point.

 

[Cloud Strife]

What's all this hullabaloo about an English trailer tmmrw?

 

[Skilletor]

Probably to be cautious with hype...

Why do so many people care how excited others get?