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Own a Samsung 840 EVO SSD? Update its firmware to avoid bad performance.

ktroopa

Member
Thank you OP for posting this. I have a 840 500GB EVO sitting in my drawer for pending PC rebuild. How often does this tool need to be run then?
 
Whew, I have the pro.

Good guy OP, nice PSA.

Now that I thought about it, I think I have an 840 EVO in my pc here at work, but I just updated the other day so I should be good. Using it to run Windows 10.

The update was released today and you can only get it through the software from their site. You'll not get the firmware update through the Samsung Magician software.
 

vg260

Member
Thanks for this!

For some reason mine hasn't seemed that fast. I kinda wrote off the SSD difference. Perhaps this may be why.
 
Before and after the patch:

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It's a bit better, not really a huge difference though. Hopefully further degradation is prevented though.
 

Mr. RPG

Member
I read that the non-EVO drives are affected too but Samsung said they aren't and they don't offer a fix right now. If someone finds more info please share.

I have a Samsung 840 SSD series does this mean this whole time I've been getting less performance out of it than I should have? And Samsung isn't going to do anything about it?
 
I've got an 840 EVO (250gb) very recently, like in the last few weeks. Is there a particular cut off batch for this issue or is it safer to assume that there will be a problem and just run the utility?
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
Just to mention this, before anyone with a PS4 just takes out their drive. If you disconnect your HDD you effectively wipe it.
I think he means that if you take out your PS4 drive, putting it back in requires a initialization process which resets everything. I'm not sure it is true (don't remember for my SSD), but that is the reasoning.
This is absolutely false. On PS4 you can swap the drives freely, and I've done so on a few occasions going back and forth between the two drives. What you're saying was sort-of true on PS3, You could disconnect and reconnect the same drive on PS3 just fine, but if you connected the 2nd drive in the meantime, you wouldn't be able to reconnect the 1st one without wiping it.

However, OP should include the warning that this tool would wipe the drive with the PS4 data on it, because the tool operates only on NTFS filesystem, which is of course not what PS4 drive is formatted with.
 
I've got an 840 EVO (250gb) very recently, like in the last few weeks. Is there a particular cut off batch for this issue or is it safer to assume that there will be a problem and just run the utility?

It's safe to assume that you won't have the latest firmware. It was released today and it will probably take a while before you can find a drive in a store with the latest firmware. Besides, the tool will tell you if you already have the latest firmware.
 
Failed at 85%. "Restoration failed, try again."

Is Basic on of the types of partitions covered by this update? That's the only thing from the limitations list that I can immediately identify as a possible problem.

Specs
Mobo: Asus M5A99X
CPU: AMD FX-8320
Generic memory
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Two other harddrives as secondary storage. One has a Windows partition but isn't on the BIOS boot list.

Everything up to date, drivers wise, as far as I know. What should my next steps be? Is it safe to use as normal and revisit at another time? Thanks a ton guys.

Edit: Just press Start again, thank you to alexandros!
 
ok the requirement to reformat the drive blows, thats it for me and Sansung.

What if you do a drive image, using linux dd or other block tool, run the fix then restore the image? would the ps4 accept that?

redownloading my library even of "games that i play this month" would blow my isp cap.
 

derExperte

Member
However, OP should include the warning that this tool would wipe the drive with the PS4 data on it, because the tool operates only on NTFS filesystem, which is of course not what PS4 drive is formatted with.

Done. What about the X1, what file system does it use?

850 EVOs are coming soon. Should be better more or less all around - unless you need it very soon.

Correct, they should announce the new EVOs any day (or week) now.

I have a Samsung 840 SSD series does this mean this whole time I've been getting less performance out of it than I should have? And Samsung isn't going to do anything about it?

I have no idea what the situation with the 840 'pure' is, you could run some benchmarks and compare them to the results posted here to make sure yours aren't abnormally low. Okay, found these comments: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storag...eview-Getting-EVOs-back-speed?page=1#comments So all you can do is wait. :/
 
Failed at 85%. "Restoration failed, try again."

Is Basic on of the types of partitions covered by this update? That's the only thing from the limitations list that I can immediately identify as a possible problem.

Specs
Mobo: Asus M5A99X
CPU: AMD FX-8320
Generic memory
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Two other harddrives as secondary storage. One has a Windows partition but isn't on the BIOS boot list.

Everything up to date, drivers wise, as far as I know. What should my next steps be? Is it safe to use as normal and revisit at another time? Thanks a ton guys.

Press "Start" again. It failed for me the first time ax well, started it again and it completed the process successfully.
 

EekTheKat

Member
Just pulled the trigger on this. My ps4 had a few lockups out of sleep and one instance of it failing to boot because it could not find the firmware. A quick restart did fix that though.

Currently at 80 percent restore.

Symptoms did seem liked a read problem. My drive was 80% full at peak.

Nuked the entire drive and starting from scratch again. Most of my saves were in the cloud anyway and I had little to no footage saved on the drive itself.
 

gatti-man

Member
Well this sucks the big one. I have this in my ps4. I noticed it was slowing down but thought it was just me. Fuck. Ill update it sooner or later.
 
Thanks OP.

I applied the firmware update and noticed a difference immediately. My windows suddenly loaded three times faster than usual.

A bit of a warning for other users, however: The restoration process was stealdily increasing from 10 to 30%, then stopped at 40% for at least 10 minutes. I was getting seriously worried about the process being frozen and wondering if I should take the risk of manually closing the process. And then is moved at 60, then 80%. Do not interrupt the restoration, even if it looks frozen for a very long time.
 

derExperte

Member
ok the requirement to reformat the drive blows, thats it for me and Sansung.

What if you do a drive image, using linux dd or other block tool, run the fix then restore the image? would the ps4 accept that?

redownloading my library even of "games that i play this month" would blow my isp cap.

If I understand it correctly the announced "Dos version for MAC, Linux users" should be able to repair a PS4 drive too without killing the data. No harm in waiting two or three weeks, I'll post in here as soon as it's available and we know more.
 

Metroidvania

People called Romanes they go the house?
Thanks for the thread, I was wondering if this was gonna be through Magician or as a standalone.

Samsung's apparently swamped, though, my download is going slow as shit.
 
850 EVOs are coming soon. Should be better more or less all around - unless you need it very soon.

I don't need it very soon, so thanks for the insight! Didn't know there were new ones coming out

But will the new ones be the same price as the 840s? $500 for 1TB?
 

derExperte

Member
I don't need it very soon, so thanks for the insight! Didn't know there were new ones coming out

But will the new ones be the same price as the 840s? $500 for 1TB?

The 840 EVO 1TB is more like $425 now after some price reductions while the 850 PRO can be found for around $550. So they'll have to price the new EVO below 500.
 

Mr. RPG

Member
Done. What about the X1, what file system does it use?



Correct, they should announce the new EVOs any day (or week) now.



I have no idea what the situation with the 840 'pure' is, you could run some benchmarks and compare them to the results posted here to make sure yours aren't abnormally low. Okay, found these comments: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storag...eview-Getting-EVOs-back-speed?page=1#comments So all you can do is wait. :/

Yeah I have a normal 840 SSD Series.

What benchmark program would you recommend to see if I'm affected?
 
Hmmm.

Step 1 - firmware update took just a few seconds. Then shut down the machine saying the program would run on boot.

Step 2 - powered up again. Booted to windows boot logo, then... Nothing.

Black screen. Nada.

Should I restart or is something happening?

Hold me, I'm scared.

Edit: Bit the bullet and restarted. Everything is fine. So weird.
 

realzzz

Neo Member
Just got mine a couple of weeks ago. Was not affected because there was almost nothing in the drive but better be safe than sorry and guys backup your files because you never know what can happen !
 

derExperte

Member
Yeah I have a normal 840 SSD Series.

What benchmark program would you recommend to see if I'm affected?

HD Tach seems to show the problem nicely if you look at the before/after comparisons here with potentially older data on the left. It wasn't designed for SSD benchmarks but for our purpose it's fine.

Should I run the performance restoration program even if I'm not seeing any problems yet?

I say yes even though 'they' always say that thing about things that ain't broke. I would not be comfortable with knowing this will sooner or later happen and maybe it already has, you just haven't noticed and got used to slightly slower load times.
 
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