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Y'all must have missed the Driveclub graphics debacle

Spoiler

people loved it visually on release and turns out the leak shots were just shitty selections and a lack of motion on a real TV

 

[Vizzeh]

Seeing some of the reactions in this thread (and others) makes me so glad I don't give a shit about resolution. It just continues to reach new levels of ridiculousness.

The game looks great. It's going to be fun. Just seems stupid to draw lines in the sand as excuses to not play it.

It is a balance between constructive criticism for a game and genuine, justified outrage... the later falls in the #paritygate threads, the constructive criticism is based on the lighting, 900p Blur and LOD in character models shown in the images + material available to us from the leaks.

I have seen some very good quality PS4 shared images + whilst USB transfer is better its not chalk + cheese but not quite negligible.

I prefer to try and be constructive + a little grounded although there are alot of conniptic (if that is even a word) responses, some have a right to be upset as there are alot of reason to dislike Ubi right now with many individual threads based on them.

Nothing with Ubi would surprise me right now, their on a roll. Just waiting for the news to break that Ubisoft is owned by Rupert Murdoch and the cynicism would be complete!

 

[SerTapTap]

Okay I am looking at Share button captures of Infamous Second Son and there is no where near the level of blur seen in those Unity screenshots. It is totally not an issue of the Share screenshots. The raw images are amazing btw, so shame on you for trying to smear the PS4's capture function instead of the obviously at fault actual game.

 

[thelastcrusader]

As of right now we know this much -

There are a LOT of NPCs - gameplay/leaker
The game is beautiful in some ways because of Paris - leaker
Gameplay has not significantly improved - various people who played X1 build
The images and video are deteriorated SLIGHTLY by the PS4 share - the leaker
Some of the assets are really low quality - the leaker
Parity was enforced to avoid the debates and stuff - Vincent Pontbriand
The framerate is not stable at all as of the last played X1 build - Various people
The game is CURRENTLY (and will likely stay) 900p, being upresed to 1080p will give it dat vaseline - Yves/Eden
Ubisoft's PR has been on vacation for the past month and they left an intern in charge of it. - Speculation

Now with that being said, the game does NOT look like an iOS game or a PS2 game. It definitely does not look as good as the bullshots presented at launch and it definitely does not look like it's going to redefine next generation, at least on consoles.

Now what do we know from experience?
It will likely have numerous patches for 3-4 months fixing the many many bugs that will occur.
Clipping will probably never be fixed, but most of you don't care about that.
If you preorder now, you get a special pair of pants.

I for one, am not happy about this but you know what. Eden's PR has moved me. His determination has seriously moved me. You know what Eden? I'm going to preorder my game again, I can't get the collector's because it's sold out, but I will preorder a regular copy and enjoy my pants. I am HOPING, that Ubisoft will not fuck me as a customer because of my console choice and will give me 1080p just like it did last year. If Ubisoft does not, then I am done with them forever across all consoles including PC. So here's to hoping you come around Ubi.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

lol, Why does it sound like hes trying to sell me something?

 

[Nimby]

I have never actually ate a Burger at MCDonalds that looked like this:

Comparing fast-food workers to game designers is not a valid comparison.

 

[woen]

Edit: BTW, the leaker's statements read too much like someone who was involved in development. What if Ubisoft contacted him and made him release that statement? That's a possibility right?

Yes exactly this is why he clearly said "Ubisoft lied about the previous screenshots and videos"

Gaf is gafing as always. /popcorn

 

[Windom Earle]

Virtually all games look better in motion/while playing...

That is a myth. Shimmering/aliasing will look worse in motion. Also it depends on the individual person and how much they observe the graphics while playing.

 

[Sean*O]

lol, Why does it sound like hes trying to sell me something?

Knew I couldn't be the only one, they are laying it on pretty thick.

 

[Wind's Howling]

Okay I am looking at Share button captures of Infamous Second Son and there is no where near the level of blur seen in those Unity screenshots. It is totally not an issue of the Share screenshots. The raw images are amazing btw, so shame on you for trying to smear the PS4's capture function instead of the obviously at fault actual game.

That is not entirely true. If you share it via twitter or facebook the compression is terrible.

I had the same thing happen with Styx Master of Shadows. It looks terrible in stills but in motion it is nowhere near as bad.

 

[El_Cinefilo]

Watched the Ps4 footage

 

[King_Moc]

I stopped posting in the thread yesterday as soon as I realised the photos were taken from the PS4 photo mode. Everything looks like shit from that thing. Predictably, everyone else in there willfully ignored that little piece of information.

 

[Nintendojitsu]

Because it is pure Unity bashing by posting a zoomed in MS Paint screenshot. People in these Unity threads are looking for every single small detail to discredit it. If I would have the dedication I could easily zoom in on a Second Son screenshot and show something terrible as well.

The sheer hate people have with Ubisoft is phenomenal here. There is absolutely not one positive thing that can be said from anyone here.

This is gold.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

I stopped posting in the thread yesterday as soon as I realised the photos were taken from the PS4 photo mode. Everything looks like shit from that thing. Predictably, everyone else in there willfully ignored that little piece of information.

But this isn't true at all.

 

[Crossing Eden]

I believe you but do you have a link? And not some PR statement that was issued at a later date only hardcore gamers read.

When they demoed the game on stage during E3 at MS presser did they state it was the PC version they were demoing?

Digital foundry met with some reps and did a framerate test on the demo, which was clarified to be running on pc. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...sins-creed-unit-feel-like-a-generational-leap

 

[Ramza]

I stopped posting in the thread yesterday as soon as I realised the photos were taken from the PS4 photo mode. Everything looks like shit from that thing. Predictably, everyone else in there willfully ignored that little piece of information.

PS4 photo mode doesn't make things look NEAR that shitty, though.

 

[Dredd97]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytS-skTkzCo#t=149

Is this actual XB1 footage?

it's implied it is....

 

[RibMan]

The problem is that I see people tearing and criticize the game (especially on NeoGAF) and it becomes ridiculous.

Well yes Ubisoft LIED on screenshots posted and published videos so far and it does not hesitate to criticize them.

I'm not sure why he's going the extra mile to defend AC:Unity. If the game has had an actual downgrade (all signs point to yes) then doesn't it make sense to call out Ubisoft for deliberately misleading consumers?

 

[The Shogun]

I actually think the game will look pretty nice but like typical Ubi its nowhere near what they advertise. Bull shots is one thing Ubi shows footage that is nowhere near the level their titles are.

Hell the leaker himself flat out states Ubi lied about the graphics.

 

[Uno Venova]

Nah, I'm not giving the blame to the PS4 screenshot function, it can deteriorate the quality, but actual good looking games like Killzone, AC4, and inFamous look amazing on screen, and in the screenshot function, Unity looks poorer in comparison.

 

[EightBitNate]

But this isn't true at all.

Then why do people (not necessarily you) constantly push for Gamersyde videos before they pass judgement? Now it just doesn't matter?

 

[BananasWithGuns]

When you see that resultion was supposed to be dealt with years ago and we still have place holder resolution points to devs and perhaps the manufactures have made a beast that they were not up to taming. Part of this is self inflicted. It's a valid discussion. If you are getting tired of the constant sniping well, that's partly marketing and partly your peers. If you like the game you will have to deal with the bad.

As for me I am not drawing any line in the sand even if it was 1080p I'd never buy this because this yearly shovleing of the same game year after year with massive teams will end up to be untenable because the suits think growth is unlimited.

It is a balance between constructive criticism for a game and genuine, justified outrage... the later falls in the #paritygate threads, the constructive criticism is based on the lighting, 900p Blur and LOD in character models shown in the images + material available to us from the leaks.

I have seen some very good quality PS4 shared images + whilst USB transfer is better its not chalk + cheese but not quite negligible.

I prefer to try and be constructive + a little grounded although there are alot of conniptic (if that is even a word) responses, some have a right to be upset as there are alot of reason to dislike Ubi right now with many individual threads based on them.

Nothing with Ubi would surprise me right now, their on a roll. Just waiting for the news to break that Ubisoft is owned by Rupert Murdoch and the cynicism would be complete!

Perhaps I should clarify. I have no real problem with a discussion around resolution, visual effects and the technical side of games. I find a lot of that stuff really interesting and I think it's healthy for the industry to talk about and question that kind of stuff because, in my opinion, it will only make games better.

That said, the whole resolutiongate and parity stuff just seems to completely consume some people, to the level of comical ridiculousness. It's like they feed off it. It's that aspect that is incredibly strange to me and more of what I meant when I'm said I'm glad I don't give a shit.

The narrative over the past year and a half or so has shifted dramatically and I don't see anything good that can come from it.

 

[FeiRR]

lol, Why does it sound like hes trying to sell me something?

That's the point of 'leaking' the game to some 'anonymous' gamer. Whispered marketing is bigger than ever.

 

[Uno Venova]

Then why do people (not necessarily you) constantly push for Gamersyde videos before they pass judgement? Now it just doesn't matter?

But people are also perfectly fine with the screenshot function.

 

[Alucrid]

if he really wanted to show us how good the game looked take some screenshots and video, load then onto a usb drive and then post them online. easy enough

 

[Harmen]

I am honestly a bit dissapointed by the graphics based on those screens. But I am fully expecting it to look a better on my screen in motion. Driveclub screens look terrible too, and that game is exactly the opposite.

Let's see how the One version looks and runs. Because if it is nearly identical, you know they did not push the PS4 version to the limits (not necessarly resolution or framerate differences).

I do not hate Ubi by the way. I am one of the few that does not mind the annual releases and even liked ACIII quite some bit. I will probably enjoy this game very much, but would like Ubsoft (and others) to be more transparent.

 

[Windom Earle]

It's only false advertising if it says it's in-game footage, which is not the case.

Games used to use live action footage in the trailer. Are you going to say it's false advertising too?

So just to get this clear... It was ok to use the PC build at the MS conference, even though the Xbone version seems to look nothing like it?

Knowing Ubi the PC version will still not look as good as the original reveal.

 

[funkystudent]

I think its super entertaining seeing the same spin and glass half full attitude we normally only see with consoles worriers and fans of niche Japanese devs applied to Ubisoft of all companies.

 

[Kinyou]

What exactly are people getting mad over? That it's 900p? I thought we knew that a long time ago

 

[Sirim]

Yes, the PS4 screenshot function has compression.

But no game I've taken screenshots of has looked like shit after the fact. It doesn't fuck up your image THAT bad. This guy is using the screenshot function as a scape goat.

 

[K' Dash]

That's the point of 'leaking' the game to some 'anonymous' gamer. Whispered marketing is bigger than ever.

 

[Nintendojitsu]

Damage control followed by deflection. This is sad.

 

[The Shogun]

What exactly are people getting mad over? That it's 900p? I thought we knew that a long time ago

The entire game appears to be downgraded. Everything from lighting to shadows to textures

 

[USC-fan]

WTF? The game isn't out yet and it's been a total trainwreck? And exactly what nonsense are they supposed to call out?

WTF? Have you not follow the pr diaster on the game over the last month?

 

[K' Dash]

What exactly are people getting mad over? That it's 900p? I thought we knew that a long time ago

Well in the other thread we have people calling this an IOS game, lol.

 

[Wind's Howling]

Yes, the PS4 screenshot function has compression.

But no game I've taken screenshots of have looked like shit after the fact. It doesn't fuck up your image THAT bad. This guy is using the screenshot function as a scape goat.

There are some games where compressed stills are absolutely terrible while the game itself looks great in motion.

What it is? I have absolutely no clue. But the "screenshots do not do it justice" quote you keep hearing from time to time is actually true in some regards.

 

[EightBitNate]

But people are also perfectly fine with the screenshot function.

Games, like #DC, look a lot worse through Facebook upload. It just destroys their IQ.

What exactly are people getting mad over? That it's 900p? I thought we knew that a long time ago

I don't know. You get driveby posts with "it looks bad" without much explanation. Then, when questioned, they zoom in on some random NPCs face and claim they're just kidding.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Then why do people (not necessarily you) constantly push for Gamersyde videos before they pass judgement? Now it just doesn't matter?

I don't even know what "Gamersyde" videos are. All I know is that screenshots from PS4's capture don't look downright awful. They do bring down the quality a bit though.

 

[Chobel]

What exactly are people getting mad over? That it's 900p? I thought we knew that a long time ago

The game looks blurry as fuck, among other stuff.

 

[DOWN]

Yes, the PS4 screenshot function has compression.

But no game I've taken screenshots of has looked like shit after the fact. It doesn't fuck up your image THAT bad. This guy is using the screenshot function as a scape goat.

Driveclub looked hella mediocre and disappointing when retail pics were leaked. It turned out amazing once we all saw it on our own TVs

Except the online part

 

[Kinyou]

The entire game appears to be downgraded. Everything from lighting to shadows to textures

Hm, guess I'll have to see some direct comparisons. Because I just watched one of the leaked videos and it looks like the game we've seen in all the walkthroughs.

Well in the other thread we have people calling this an IOS game, lol.

Just saw the zoomed in screenshot of the "900p girl". Can't tell if people are serious or not.

 

[King_Moc]

PS4 photo mode doesn't make things look NEAR that shitty, though.

Looks pretty shitty to me.

Edit: Worth noting that PS4 shots of 1080p games don't look anywhere near as bad, nor does BF4 look this bad during gameplay.

 

[woen]

The contempt against the "leaker" in this thread ("damage control" "it's a Ubi dev lol") is absurd.

 

[EightBitNate]

I don't even know what "Gamersyde" videos are. All I know is that screenshots from PS4's capture don't look downright awful. They do bring down the quality a bit though.

Gamersyde is a gaming website that hosts high quality videos, unlike, say, IGN.

 

[SerTapTap]

That is not entirely true. If you share it via twitter or facebook the compression is terrible.

I had the same thing happen with Styx Master of Shadows. It looks terrible in stills but in motion it is nowhere near as bad.

That's Twitter/facebook compression. Actual stills grabbed from USB will look great. And Twitter images have more obvious compression--I'm quite confident compression is not the primary problem in those images. Compression artifacts are very tell-tale and mess up colors, they don't just blurr the entire image evenly and cleanly. You'd see big blocks and weird miscolored pixels around sharp edges if it were standard image compression.

 

[DOWN]

Looks pretty shitty to me.

That game is 900 p and does look shitty in multiplayer tho

 

[K' Dash]

I don't even know what "Gamersyde" videos are. All I know is that screenshots from PS4's capture don't look downright awful. They do bring down the quality a bit though.

Blasphemy.

People won't wait until the finalised version of the game is out, it is more fun to come to a forum and be an idiot about it.

Just to clarify, if I buy the game and the so called downgrade is true, I'll gladly grab a pitchfork and join you, for now, I'll just wait.

 

[Blimblim]

All this damage control, why don't just upload 5 minutes of free roam gameplay to gamersyde if it looks better?

Well first we wouldn't allow him to do that

 

[ViciousDS]

Looks pretty shitty to me.

Wasnt this before usb method

 

[Always-honest]

Ofcourse it will look better in motion. So do all the other games we see PS4 shared images from.