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[Special C]

I think the Xbox One is a better console, but that's only based on my opinions and what I want in a console. I prefer the some of enhancing next Gen features the Xbox One has over the PS4 rather than the PS4s hardware advantage.

But obviously the Market has spoken and the PS4 has what the majority of gamers want. I'm ok with that. People who prefer the Xbox One have every right to prefer it. Same with the PS4.

People need to stop with the console elitism. I'm tired of people calling you out for preferring a system with the weaker hardware and saying it's the factual worse system when it's not. It's factual that it is a worse performing graphical piece of hardware but what makes a console "better" is up to each individual person to decide. On the other hand the persecution complex some Xbox One owners have is equally as frustrating.

Just enjoy the console you have. Sure, debate the merits of each console but respect other people's opinions on which is better.

 

[big_z]

Wow this thread is reaching IGN comments section levels of fanboyism...actually' it's reaching Youtube comments levels.

I think gaming side on gaf hit YouTube levels over a year ago(minus the racist/hate comments). This generation has seen tons of fanboys and trolling so much so that its sucked a lot of the fun out of the consoles. Many threads get turned to poo because if it and there's always someone ready to tell you how much your console sucks.

Gaf grew to love the 3ds and wiiu after tons of hate. My hope is that the same happens for the other consoles.

 

[StuBurns]

I think gaming side on gaf hit YouTube levels over a year ago(minus the racist/hate comments). This generation has seen tons of fanboys and trolling so much so that its sucked a lot of the fun out of the consoles. Many threads get turned to poo because if it and there's always someone ready to tell you how much your console sucks.

Gaf grew to love the 3ds and wiiu after tons of hate. My hope is that the same happens for the other consoles.

I still think despite the Sony/MS epic battle, Nintendo fans are the worst. Why do the Bayonetta threads have the console name in the title? Pathetic shit.

 

[Melchiah]

As it is, Halo 2 Anniversary is not released. Halo 2 on the Xbox Hueg doesn't have Terminals or Forge or online coop or even the vehicles and weapons available on H2A. While TLOUR in 98% form is available on the PS3 as TLOU.

What I meant was, that the games in MCC are all old, already released, just like TLOU was, and have no alterations in their SP campaigns. It's just hypocritical to exclude one of them for some arbitrary reasons.



EDIT:

I think the Xbox One is a better console, but that's only based on my opinions and what I want in a console. I prefer the some of enhancing next Gen features the Xbox One has over the PS4 rather than the PS4s hardware advantage.

Don't you consider Shareplay a next gen feature?

 

[truth411]

You had to include a sports game and a remastered game from 2013. You also forgot Fantasia which has a Metacritic of 80, and Halo which is coming out in a couple weeks.

Lol!!! WOW!!! At that response!!! Isn't Halo going back to 2001 and M.S. main holiday title?? Talk about moving the goal post.

 

[LowEndTorque]

It’s good to finally have an understanding of the “PS4 has no games, it doesn’t deserve to be selling well, it’s a SHAME that it’s so far ahead of XB1, xbox treats us like first class citizens and delivers all teh exclusives” narrative.

Apparently the basis of this narrative is that unlike MCC, TLOU:R is a remaster and a lazy cash-in and doesn’t count, sports games don’t count and Fantasia got an 80 on metacritic. The more you know.

 

[BruiserBear]

Are you familiar with the term "moving the goalposts"? You want to include scores for titles that haven't even been released yet?

Do you understand how this looks? I don't believe you do.


Funny. I've been here exponentially longer than you have and it's never been part of the 'unspoken' things. Games are games, availability means just that.

Anything else you'd care to enlighten us with, please?

I'll remind you that this little exchange started with me saying "Microsoft had the better big games this year". That was the genesis of this back and forth with torque.

Sony's baseball game is fantastic, but I feel like it only gets trotted out for list wars when someone needs a +1. It's never going to win GAF's GOTY, nor would it ever win any major websites GOTY. It's just kind of it's own thing. Great, but rarely part of the larger gaming discussion. I didn't consider it a "big game" when making that original statement.

 

[Toki767]

What I meant was, that the games in MCC are all old, already released, just like TLOU was, and have no alterations in their SP campaigns. It's just hypocritical to exclude one of them for some arbitrary reasons.

To quote Reggie: "It's not the same game. It's not the same content!"

Spoiler

It's basically the same game.

I'll remind you that this little exchange started with me saying "Microsoft had the better big games this year". That was the genesis of this back and forth with torque.

So you stated your opinion. I know plenty of people who prefer Sony's lineup to Microsoft's this year. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

 

[Kayant]

TLOU remaster is no where near the caliber of Halo 2 Anniversary though. Entirely new cutscenes with brand new mocap, new content added to the Halo 2 campaign, entirely updated graphics, online co-op, re-recorded audio, entirely new Forge maps with new feature set, and updated multi-player maps.

One could even include adding matchmaking to Halo CE which never had it to begin with.

TLOU is just increased resolution and framerate. Oh and Photomode. Which is nowhere near the work done on H2A.And to be fair, I feel the same about TLOU as I do Tomb Raider DE and Sleeping Dogs DE. Lazy cashins.

EDIT: if anything, compare the new Ratchet and Clank remake to MCC.

Hmmm so what about Halo 3/4 which are remasters compared to a remake like H2A and are having similar updates like TLOU:R. So those surely are lazy also right.... /s

I mean what do you want them to do with a remaster exactly? It was never said to be a remake it's not meant to be H2A levels of enhancement, changes and such you see with a remake. It did exactly what they set out to do that is very good performance at 60fps, 1080p, other improvements like shadows, textures, All DLC

Spoiler

Although a bit shitty with the cosmetics/weapon parks not being included

. There is only one Last of us which got released last year there is only so much you can do with only one game in the series.

Should be interesting to see your views on the remaster versions of Halo 3/4.

 

[BiGBoSSMk23]

He's right. TLOU is largely the same game, despite the challenges hurdled in bringing the code from PS3 Cell to PS4.

It's a very good game, but it belongs on their previous console, to consider it a major first party bullet point for PS4 is a bit naive.

A remaster no matter how good is just cushioning/filler.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I think gaming side on gaf hit YouTube levels over a year ago(minus the racist/hate comments). This generation has seen tons of fanboys and trolling so much so that its sucked a lot of the fun out of the consoles. Many threads get turned to poo because if it and there's always someone ready to tell you how much your console sucks.

Gaf grew to love the 3ds and wiiu after tons of hate. My hope is that the same happens for the other consoles.

The gaming side was always like this we just have more members now.
It's like people forget what happen during PS3 first few years.

He's right. TLOU is largely the same game, despite the challenges hurdled in bringing the code from PS3 Cell to PS4.

It's a very good game, but it belongs on their previous console, to consider it a major first party bullet point for PS4 is a bit naive.

A remaster no matter how good is just cushioning/filler.

Well seeing how so many PS4 owner suppose to come from other systems i don't see why not .
Then if you look at sales it sold more than FH2 which suppose to help the X1.

 

[MrCookiepants]

LOL. Xbox One has good exclusives, where exactly?

DeadRising 3? Also on PC.
TitanFall? Also on 360 & PC.
Ryse: Son of Rome? Also on PC.
Forza Horizon 2? Also on 360.
Sunset Overdrive? I'll give you that one.
Halo: Master Chief Collection? 3 out of the 4 games in that collection are also on 360.

I can go on & on.

lol, thank you for this. The fact that they feel this list is brag worthy shows the desperation and delusion.

 

[Special C]

EDIT:


Don't you consider Shareplay a next gen feature?

Sure I do. I didn't say the PS4 didn't have any.

 

[Wynnebeck]

He's right. TLOU is largely the same game, despite the challenges hurdled in bringing the code from PS3 Cell to PS4.

It's a very good game, but it belongs on their previous console, to consider it a major first party bullet point for PS4 is a bit naive.

A remaster no matter how good is just cushioning/filler.

I was referring to his statement about TLOU being a lazy cash-in. Obviously H2A has had extensive work done to the game, however, he should not discount the amount of work done to TLOU and how good it looks as well as sold.

 

[scytherage]

I think gaming side on gaf hit YouTube levels over a year ago(minus the racist/hate comments). This generation has seen tons of fanboys and trolling so much so that its sucked a lot of the fun out of the consoles. Many threads get turned to poo because if it and there's always someone ready to tell you how much your console sucks.

Gaf grew to love the 3ds and wiiu after tons of hate. My hope is that the same happens for the other consoles.

It's about the same. I remember the 360 launch and the mockery it got for 'no bluray!'. It's just the way it is...the curse of console gaming.

 

[benny_a]

A remaster no matter how good is just cushioning/filler.

To whom? To what extend?

Any game that sells well is on topic for this discussion. The antecedent for this dumb exclusives are mega important narrative isn't even established but then jump one further and discount actual sales takes dumbness to a whole new level.

 

[pantsonhead]

The gaming side was always like this we just have more members now.
It's like people forget what happen during PS3 first few years.



Well seeing how so many PS4 owner suppose to come from other systems i don't see why not .
Then if you look at sales it sold more than FH2 which suppose to help the X1.

Sounds like it was before my time. Share the story, yeah?

 

[Glorified G]

Sports games certainly count, but if anyone here were to try and argue EA is a great publisher because Madden gets 9's every year they would be laughed off the forum. Yearly sports games are cool, but they kind of occupy their own little place in the gaming world. Throwing them into a discussion about shooters, and racers, and action games seems like a reach.

You're the touch bearer of why console and list wars are so embarrassing. It's as if you're trying to single handedly bring this board to gamefaqs level of fanboyism.

 

[orochi91]

Sounds like it was before my time. Share the story, yeah?

The "Age of Sony is over" meltdown early last gen was just priceless.

 

[Neuromancer]

TLOU is just increased resolution and framerate. Oh and Photomode. Which is nowhere near the work done on H2A.And to be fair, I feel the same about TLOU as I do Tomb Raider DE and Sleeping Dogs DE. Lazy cashins.

“I wish we had a button that was like ‘Turn On PS4 Mode’, but no,” creative director Neil Druckmann says. “We expected it to be Hell, and it was Hell. Just getting an image onscreen, even an inferior one with the shadows broken, lighting broken and with it crashing every 30 seconds… that took a long time. These engineers are some of the best in the industry and they optimised the game so much for the PS3’s SPUs specifically. It was optimised on a binary level, but after shifting those things over [to PS4] you have to go back to the high level, make sure the [game] systems are intact, and optimise it again.​

“I can’t describe how difficult a task that is. And once it’s running well, you’re running the [versions] side by side to make sure you didn’t screw something up in the process, like physics being slightly off, which throws the game off, or lighting being shifted and all of a sudden it’s a drastically different look. That’s not ‘improved’ any more; that’s different. We want to stay faithful while being better.”​

http://www.edge-online.com/features/the-last-of-it-naughty-dog-on-bringing-the-last-of-us-to-ps4/

Feel free to educate yourself on what the process was actually like.

 

[Niteandgrey]

It begins. I was just at work the other and a guy came in with some buddies and was looking at the PS4 section. He asked if there was anything special coming with CoD: AW and I told him about the AW Xbone bundle. He got really excited when he heard it had 1TB and other features you can't get on PS4. He comes back the next day with his PS4 and games and trades them all in, saying his buddies will be trading in their PS4s for Xbones too. You all laughed at the Xbox One when it first came out, but let's look at the facts. Xbox One has:

- the best exclusives (Halo: MCC, Sunset Overdrive, NFL Network)
- the best controller
- the best media apps
- the brightest future
- the most fun per each hour spent playing a game
- the best network infrastructure powered by expensive cloud servers
- the cheapest consoles

compared to the PS4 which has:

- the best graphics (who cares, gameplay>graphics)
- the most indie games (who plays indies?)
- the worst controller
- the worst network infrastructure ran by monkeys
- the worst network security imaginable
- the most rabid bunch of fanboys ever seen
- the most arrogant executives

When you stop and compare the pros and cons for each system, can you really blame those guys for trading in their PS4s with all the broken promises and stupid pictures of tubs for a Xbox One? Jump in GAF.

This is perhaps the dumbest post I've seen on GAF and that's really saying something.

You seem to confuse subjective preferences with facts.

In terms of exclusive games, the Bone has almost nothing that I'm interested in. I don't blame others if they like the Bone's exclusives better, but for my tastes, there's a grand total of three exclusives that I have any interest in.

I greatly prefer the PS4's controller to the Xbone's. Once again, subjective.

Lots of people play indie games. There's been some utterly brilliant indie games for the PS4. It's a shame you're too shallow to check them out.

The rest is even more ridiculous.

Personally, I'm very happy that Microsoft is hurting this gen. Microsoft tried to fundamentally change the industry in a way that was very anti-consumer. I don't want them to get out of the gaming industry and I don't want them to fail utterly. But I want them to hurt. Bad.

I want them to bleed out enough this gen that when the time comes to make the next Xbox console, they don't ever think of trying any of that stupid shit they tried to pull this gen ever again. At which point, I'll happily buy one. And quite frankly, it bothers me a bit that so many people have been so willing to just brush aside their attempts at anti-consumer business practices.

And no, I'm not anti-Microsoft or a fanboy of Sony. I have a 360 in my office and one in my living room along with a huge library of games. I made my living as a .net programmer for years so Microsoft has been plenty good to me.

End rant.

As an aside, if your post was simply an attempt at trolling, then I salute you and award you legendary troll status.

 

[Dylan Sexbang]

What I meant was, that the games in MCC are all old, already released, just like TLOU was, and have no alterations in their SP campaigns. It's just hypocritical to exclude one of them for some arbitrary reasons.

But H2 does, and H2 is the big one. This is H2's 10th anniversary and it does include changes. No one expected to get 1, 3 and 4. Well until the ntkrnl leak, but prior to that. Everyone knew Halo 2 was coming, with changes to it. the other 3 are just like, the chocolate piece on top of a nutella cupcake.

Hmmm so what about Halo 3/4 which are remasters compared to a remake like H2A and are having similar updates like TLOU:R. So those surely are lazy also right.... /s

I mean what do you want them to do with a remaster exactly? It's never said to be a remake it's not meant to be H2A levels of enhancement, changes and such you see with a remake. It did exactly what they set out to do that is very good performance at 60fps, 1080p, other improvements like shadows, textures, All DLC

Spoiler

Although a bit shitty with the cosmetics/weapon parks not being included

. There is only one Last of us which got released last year there is only so much you can do with only one game in the series.

Should be interesting to see your views on the remaster versions of Halo 3/4.

No one even expected 1, 3 and 4. Take it from someone who's main forum prior to the invasion of Desticles was Bungie.net. Everyone was expecting Halo 2. Halo 2 is the big one, the whole point of the MCC. 1, 3 and 4 are extras. I don't have a comment on them, because I'm not buying the MCC for them. It's for Halo 2, those 3 games are just thrown onto the big kahuna which is Halo 2 anniversary.

Are they lazy upports? Yes. But they're tacked on to the bigger title with all the updates. I can call those lazy uninspired, but whats the point when the center piece is Halo 2 which is getting plenty of additions. And I guess Halo CE has online on a console for the first time ever, and maps that were only accessible on the PC ver.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

Same here, though I am NOT enjoying it.

I'd rather laugh. I mean these are grown men going on with list warz, whenever I picture that I just can't help but laugh

 

[Fafalada]

And who's to say you couldn't emulate the 3-core 3.2Ghz PPC chip with a 1.7Ghz x86 SoC.

The question isn't "can you run an emulator" but "can you run it at speed of original hw".
For CPUs that usually requires an-order of magnitude(or more) increase in single-threaded performance.
The scenario we have with new consoles is more a case of being faster at some workloads and slower at others, ie. it's not even close.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Sounds like it was before my time. Share the story, yeah?

During PS3 early years there was the chalk board , had no games , online suck , $599 , giant crab , Sony going out gaming business etc etc .
All because of how poor there sales were the same thing is happening with MS now.

 

[orochi91]

2015 is looking VERY good for the PS4.

That sales lead will blossom to 3:1 by holiday 2015.

You're the touch bearer of why console and list wars are so embarrassing. It's as if you're trying to single handedly bring this board to gamefaqs level of fanboyism.

Don't get annoyed at him for Sony's lack of compelling output this year.

If anything, Sony deserves the blame for providing so much ammo to the detractors.

 

[Apathy]

This is perhaps the dumbest post I've seen on GAF and that's really saying something.

You seem to confuse subjective preferences with facts.

In terms of exclusive games, the Bone has almost nothing that I'm interested in. I don't blame others if they like the Bone's exclusives better, but for my tastes, there's a grand total of three exclusives that I have any interest in.

I greatly prefer the PS4's controller to the Xbone's. Once again, subjective.

Lots of people play indie games. There's been some utterly brilliant indie games for the PS4. It's a shame you're too shallow to check them out.

The rest is even more ridiculous.

Personally, I'm very happy that Microsoft is hurting this gen. Microsoft tried to fundamentally change the industry in a way that was very anti-consumer. I don't want them to get out of the gaming industry and I don't want them to fail utterly. But I want them to hurt. Bad.

I want them to bleed out enough this gen that when the time comes to make the next Xbox console, they don't ever think of trying any of that stupid shit they tried to pull this gen ever again. At which point, I'll happily buy one. And quite frankly, it bothers me a bit that so many people have been so willing to just brush aside their attempts at anti-consumer business practices.

And no, I'm not anti-Microsoft or a fanboy of Sony. I have a 360 in my office and one in my living room along with a huge library of games. I made my living as a .net programmer for years so Microsoft has been plenty good to me.

End rant.

As an aside, if your post was simply an attempt at trolling, then I salute you and award you legendary troll status.

Sorry to say he got you. Don't worry, happens to all of us at some point.

 

[Melchiah]

But H2 does, and H2 is the big one. This is H2's 10th anniversary and it does include changes. No one expected to get 1, 3 and 4. Well until the ntkrnl leak, but prior to that. Everyone knew Halo 2 was coming, with changes to it. the other 3 are just like, the chocolate piece on top of a nutella cupcake.

As big changes to the campaign as in REmake, or just a minor additions?

 

[Sanic]

Feel free to educate yourself on what the process was actually like.​

Im not sure how the challenges they faced during development invalidates anything he said? The end result was a PS3 game running at double the frame rate at a higher resolution.​

 

[StuBurns]

While I certainly think Sony have an appalling first year as a publisher, part of the reason for that is because they've done so well they haven't had to try. I imagine The Order would be shipping this holiday if Sony felt they needed it.

 

[Neuromancer]

Im not sure how the challenges they faced during development invalidates anything he said? The end result was a PS3 game running at double the frame rate at a higher resolution.

I'd say it invalidates the part where he or she called it a lazy cash in. Because on the contrary it sounds like it was a hell of a lot of work.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Side note i think as more people start using share play and words gets out sales going to be even better along with games and price a drop next year .
Last night had chance to fool around with it and it really is the most next gen feature for consoles so far most likely going to end up buying more games because of it also.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Destiny selling a lot more on Xbox One.
Despite the double digit millions Sony invested in the title.

Just throwing that stat out there for fun.
Console hardware sales don't always tell the full story for the industry as a whole.

Spoiler

Just talking about US for now

As everyone has stated above, your logic is flawed and your reasoning is far from sound.

 

[Patroclos]

As an aside, if your post was simply an attempt at trolling, then I salute you and award you legendary troll status.

 

[PoweredByHentai]

Bgamer is a level headed dude. He may like MS but that doesn't make him the enemy. He would never say the bolded part above. It takes a special kind of idiot to say something like that.

One that says things like this golden oldie;

Wow, it's already been a full year since that tweet.

Wauw, I reward you a price for the most misleading, biased post ever. Continue your propaganda, it seems to be working.

I believe he was talking about Microsoft's history as an anti-competitive monopoly that was famously sued by the Department of Justice over anti-trust claims.
http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/ms_index.htm

http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/f2600/2613toc_htm.htm

 

[airmangataosenai]

Are people seriously treating Kyle as a credible source for this now that he's saying something good about the PS4? I like him and he gets a lot right in other topics, but the whole thing about setting an exactly even split as the baseline and 2.35 million for XBO is arbitrary as hell. Most of us in the sales thread figured that his theoretical maximum was actually closer to the minimum

 

[Dylan Sexbang]

As big changes to the campaign as in REmake, or just a minor additions?

New Terminals on each level with new animations/voice work and significant lore additions, new skulls (campaign modifiers), rerecorded soundtrack/new weapon audio, every cutscene redone with mocap, and online 4 player co-op. I never played REmake so I couldn't tell you, but as a lore nerd and someone who has put more time in Halo 2's campaign than I do most games this satisfies my grunty thirst.

 

[benny_a]

Are people seriously treating Kyle as a credible source for this now that he's saying something good about the PS4? I like him and he gets a lot right in other topics, but the whole thing about setting an exactly even split as the baseline and 2.35 million for XBO is arbitrary as hell. Most of us in the sales thread figured that his theoretical maximum was actually closer to the minimum

He corrected the article based on publicly available information. He is not the source.

 

[Sanic]

I'd say it invalidates the part where he or she called it a lazy cash in. Because on the contrary it sounds like it was a hell of a lot of work.

I won't disagree (calling it a lazy cash in was probably disingenuous), but we can't really say one way or another. You or I have probably done plenty of things that were a hell of a lot of work that were (for our employers) lower cost due to the amount of people or resources behind the project.

I guess we could argue in circles about this but the reality is that unless we have a cost or personnel breakdown, we can't know.

 

[John Bender]

Side note i think as more people start using share play and words gets out sales going to be even better along with games and price a drop next year .
Last night had chance to fool around with it and it really is the most next gen feature for consoles so far most likely going to end up buying more games because of it also.

So true. Tried it out yesterday with some friends.
Best next-gen feature at the moment!

 

[Melchiah]

New Terminals on each level with new animations/voice work and significant lore additions, new skulls (campaign modifiers), rerecorded soundtrack/new weapon audio, every cutscene redone with mocap, and online 4 player co-op. I never played REmake so I couldn't tell you, but as a lore nerd and someone who has put more time in Halo 2's campaign than I do most games this satisfies my grunty thirst.

No new gameplay content for the campaign though? I've never player REmake either, but from what I've understood it changed some of the sections in the game, and added Lisa and Crimson Heads.

 

[Wynnebeck]

New Terminals on each level with new animations/voice work and significant lore additions, new skulls (campaign modifiers), rerecorded soundtrack/new weapon audio, every cutscene redone with mocap, and online 4 player co-op. I never played REmake so I couldn't tell you, but as a lore nerd and someone who has put more time in Halo 2's campaign than I do most games this satisfies my grunty thirst.

If this is the true extent of the work done to H2A, I take back my statement about extensive work done. It's basically a Xbox game running at a higher resolution at possibly the same framerate and touched up with paint for the animations and voicework. Actually now that I think about it, this is pretty lazy work and sounds like cash-in to me. Shame on you for trying to push this garbage on us lol.

 

[PoweredByHentai]

“I wish we had a button that was like ‘Turn On PS4 Mode’, but no,” creative director Neil Druckmann says. “We expected it to be Hell, and it was Hell. Just getting an image onscreen, even an inferior one with the shadows broken, lighting broken and with it crashing every 30 seconds… that took a long time. These engineers are some of the best in the industry and they optimised the game so much for the PS3’s SPUs specifically. It was optimised on a binary level, but after shifting those things over [to PS4] you have to go back to the high level, make sure the [game] systems are intact, and optimise it again.​

“I can’t describe how difficult a task that is. And once it’s running well, you’re running the [versions] side by side to make sure you didn’t screw something up in the process, like physics being slightly off, which throws the game off, or lighting being shifted and all of a sudden it’s a drastically different look. That’s not ‘improved’ any more; that’s different. We want to stay faithful while being better.”​

http://www.edge-online.com/features/the-last-of-it-naughty-dog-on-bringing-the-last-of-us-to-ps4/

Feel free to educate yourself on what the process was actually like.

I seem to be one of the few people who sees video game remasters as a proof-of-concept validation of whether the developer's code could be better optimized/abstracted and for how well the underlying tools adapt to a newer platform.

It's like watching some of the development transition issues my company had in migrating from XP to Windows 7 and finding out that critical software to make our medical devices run weren't working on Windows 7.

 

[SanguineShark]

I'm honestly glad Sony is back on top, as I think MS did deserve a reality check for what they attempted to do.

However, at the moment, the Xbox One is the superior console in terms of entertainment from gaming. Hope Sony does something to rectify this soon, because from an outsiders perspective, the PS4 looks like an expensive paperweight and I have no intention of getting one right now.

I'd love to have a reason to, though. Always preferred Sony consoles and it's nice to see they're not going anywhere.

 

[big_z]

It's about the same. I remember the 360 launch and the mockery it got for 'no bluray!'. It's just the way it is...the curse of console gaming.

The behavior of the gaming community has been brought up numerous times by gaming site editors the past year. It's the worst it's ever been, by far. Its been a snow ball effect as people are always trying to out do each other and find new extremes. we also have a whole generation of kids that grew up with YouTube like comments and that's allowing that behavior to become the norm else where while something worse is brewing.

 

[PoweredByHentai]

Side note i think as more people start using share play and words gets out sales going to be even better along with games and price a drop next year .
Last night had chance to fool around with it and it really is the most next gen feature for consoles so far most likely going to end up buying more games because of it also.

I kind of wish that my broadband provider (Charter) would increase my upload rate.

They secretly bumped my download rate from 30 Mbps to 65 Mbps but the upload rate stayed the same.

If Charter were to bump up my upload rate, I would totally let my friends try my copy of Oneechanbara Z2 Chaos via Shareplay.

 

[Dylan Sexbang]

No new gameplay content for the campaign though? I've never player REmake either, but from what I've understood it changed some of the sections in the game, and added Lisa and Crimson Heads.

That is it other than running both the classic game and the remade game at the same time. And then there's the MP components that have been added, but we're avoiding those for some reason.

 

[Percy]

It really seems as though some are having trouble accepting the fact that "Xbox One has good exclusives" is a completely subjective sentiment and nothing more. Same as "PS4 has no good exclusives". It's getting tiresome to continually read some variation of the former statement as though it is something we should all take as read.

It is not.

New Terminals on each level with new animations/voice work and significant lore additions, new skulls (campaign modifiers), rerecorded soundtrack/new weapon audio, every cutscene redone with mocap, and online 4 player co-op. I never played REmake so I couldn't tell you, but as a lore nerd and someone who has put more time in Halo 2's campaign than I do most games this satisfies my grunty thirst.

So... no actual new gameplay content then? Same levels, same layouts, same length... just like Halo Anniversary did it?

No new gameplay content for the campaign though? I've never player REmake either, but from what I've understood it changed some of the sections in the game, and added Lisa and Crimson Heads.

REmake is a ground up reworking of RE in every way. Beyond the same initial story premise, it is a total reworking of the original in terms of level design and size.

 

[shacklesmcgee]

“I wish we had a button that was like ‘Turn On PS4 Mode’, but no,” creative director Neil Druckmann says. “We expected it to be Hell, and it was Hell. Just getting an image onscreen, even an inferior one with the shadows broken, lighting broken and with it crashing every 30 seconds… that took a long time. These engineers are some of the best in the industry and they optimised the game so much for the PS3’s SPUs specifically. It was optimised on a binary level, but after shifting those things over [to PS4] you have to go back to the high level, make sure the [game] systems are intact, and optimise it again.​

“I can’t describe how difficult a task that is. And once it’s running well, you’re running the [versions] side by side to make sure you didn’t screw something up in the process, like physics being slightly off, which throws the game off, or lighting being shifted and all of a sudden it’s a drastically different look. That’s not ‘improved’ any more; that’s different. We want to stay faithful while being better.”​

http://www.edge-online.com/features/the-last-of-it-naughty-dog-on-bringing-the-last-of-us-to-ps4/

Feel free to educate yourself on what the process was actually like.

Thank you for this, people saying remasters don't take work are kinda showing they don't know how game development works

 

[Daviii]

Because there are so many PS4 only owners here, that means by default there are that many more irrational babies who get upset when I say obvious things about the shortcomings of the PS4 OS, and the exclusive games being pretty poor so far

Fuck irrational babies who bought a system because it was more powerful at the same price, and because they like joining the winners party of the bestselling platform doubling the support of the nearest competitor.

They should care probably more about ephemeral stuff. Like OS advantages, or first year exclusives. So that when the rival OS gets updated and the exclusives start showing, they just don't have any other stupidity they can use to make an ass of themselves on the internet. Sounds like the intelligent decision.