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Assassin's Creed Unity Leaker calls out to Neogaf/provides clarification on graphics

OsirisBlack

Banned
Truthfully the game does not look half bad in the newer screenshots. The forced parity is still a bit unsettling but it is not going to graphically usher in a new era or whatever tomfoolery they said when taking that jab at Shadow of Mordor.
 
You should send me what you really want to say. Via PM. ;)

so are you in this thread to just act like a child now or what? Practically nobody here agrees with what you did. Just an overall dick move that was uncalled for over a video game you dont like
 
Photo Mode does not make everything look like shit.

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And these are super compressed not even usb grabs.

Those are also 1080p games.

And wtf at Marcel. Why do some people have so much hate?
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
You know, it seems like you aren't a bad guy at all but Ubisoft really dropped the ball with this title. It's made for one of the biggest and longest dicussions in GAF this year and what's funny is that they wanted to avoid them. I guess we'll finally be able to discuss the game properly when it's available for everyone, right now the only source we have are those screenshots and to be honest, they aren't helping the game, maybe wait until it's available and see if people's opinion changes?
I probably won't be getting it as soon as it releases, AC3 really burned me off the series and I picked AC4 because a friend offered it for a good price.

Anyway, the guy who posted a pic of a PM you sent him... wow that surely was in poor taste.
I'm not a bad person at all actually. And yea regarding the bolded, that's exactly what I said out loud. And I can understand the anger considering Watch Dogs, however, I can not understand some of the criticisms, like it having an extreme downgrade or looking like launch title.

is that literally what he says? because that's just a whole lot of nothing. although i guess i can't be surprised that he doesn't care to give any details if he just uploads a gameplay video to facebook
He doesn't just say "it's fun." He goes into specifics like stealth and the way the controls feel. It's a 60 page thread on a french forum, it's hard to keep up when you don't speak French. ._.
Like for instance this post, warning direct translation.

level gameplay is better than previous ones. Climb down and it's much better . Current through the houses to escape it's great . The play also infiltration .
Yet the story is good, the missions are fun and exciting story :) . The fighting is in my opinion ... easier! I fought against five guards and I found it easy. It's weird ...
 

Bricky

Member
When I saw a test build being played live at Gamescom it perhaps didn't look as polished as the trailers but still looked mighty fine in motion. The only obviously noticable 'downgrade' was that it didn't look as sharp as the trailers, somewhat blurry textures and such, which seems to be even more obvious in the final console versions judging by the leaked screens being discussed here. People pointing that out are probably right, especially with the PS4 version being just 900p.

But, even as somewhat of a graphics whore with an high-end PC that's all I noticed. Everything else looked fantastic, so I highly doubt this is going to be another Watch_Dogs. Well, at least not on PC (which I guess is what the Gamescom build was shown on and even then it was just a demo of course).

E: It was definitely on PC, I just remembered they Alt-F4'd to a Windows-desktop at the end.
 

Busigkatt

Banned
I played the game for about 20 minutes today at the gaming event Comic Con Gamex in Sweden and it was horrible. The build was obviously from a while back but stil. The game went between 28-20 fps pretty much all the time. It was a lag fest! The anti aliasing was non existent and the textures was popping and lockin like there was no tomorrow. Also the textures on pretty much everything that wasen't close to you looked really poor. Overall it feels like they have thrown way to many NPCs and stuff overall into the enivorment. The trees were take from hell and looked like shit aswell. Sure they can fix the fps for the final build but I still looked very underwhelming. From what I played it felt like a last gen game except for the lightning and shadows. But those were also way overused.

I've played all the AC games for home consoles but after Watch Dogs and getting Far Cry 3.5 (copy pasta) I just can't get excited for another Ubisoft game. The formula is getting old. I'll stick to GTA V this winter along with Halo: The Master Chief Collection.
 

Beefy

Member
I'm not a bad person at all actually. And yea regarding the bolded, that's exactly what I said out loud. And I can understand the anger considering Watch Dogs, however, I can not understand some of the criticisms, like it having an extreme downgrade or looking like launch title.


He doesn't just say "it's fun." He goes into specifics like stealth and the way the controls feel. It's a 60 page thread on a french forum, it's hard to keep up when you don't speak French. ._.

So if the game turns out to look like crap you will accept it does?
 

Alucrid

Banned
When I saw a test build being played live at Gamescom it perhaps didn't look as polished as the trailers but still looked mighty fine in motion. The only obviously noticable 'downgrade' was that it didn't look as sharp as the trailers, somewhat blurry textures and such, which seems to be even more obvious in the final console versions judging by the leaked screens being discussed here. People pointing that out are probably right, especially with the PS4 version being just 900p.

But, even as somewhat of a graphics whore with an high-end PC that's all I noticed. Everything else looked fantastic, so I highly doubt this is going to be another Watch_Dogs. Well, at least not on PC (which I guess is what the Gamescom build was shown on and even then it was just a demo of course).

I played the game for about 20 minutes today at the gaming event Comic Con Gamex in Sweden and it was horrible. The build was obviously from a while back but stil. The game went between 28-20 fps pretty much all the time. It was a lag fest! The anti aliasing was non existent and the textures was popping and lockin like there was no tomorrow. Also the textures on pretty much everything looked really poor. Overall it feels like they have thrown way to many NPCs and stuff overall into the enivorment. The trees were take from hell and looked like shit aswell. Sure they can fix the fps for the final build but I still looks very underwhelming and what I played, flat out like a last gen game except for the lightning and shadows. But those are also way overused.

I've played all the AC games for home consoles but after Watch Dogs and getting Far Cry 3.5 (copy pasta) I just can't get excited for a Ubisoft game again. The formula is getting old. I'll stick to GTA V this winter along with Halo: The Master Chief Collection.

who do i believe?
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
So if the game turns out to look like crap you will accept it does?
Well if the game turns out to be crap i'll be very disappointed. But that's quite unlikely from what i've seen. I don't like crap games or play crap games with a big smile on my face.
 
Man, only thing I'm seeing Ubisoft doing is exposing how insane some people are lol. In a way I think all threads about resolutions and what not tend to do that.
 

Beefy

Member
Man, only thing I'm seeing Ubisoft doing is exposing how insane some people are lol. In a way I think all threads about resolutions and what not tend to do that.

I think people have reacted this bad because of all the bullshit pr that Ubi have done. It all started with them not wanting a debate and stuff.
 

filly

Member
Just to add some balance for the pressure the deploment team must be under at unit... I really appreciate all the hard work that the whole unity team has put in.

I'm sure ubi forced the parity and that is part of why everything is getting so nasty, I think part of gaf believes if they get salty enough ubi might give us a 1080p ps4 unity. But I don't think it's going to happen.

Unity is going to be awesome and I dont think a lot of people here realise that some of these comments must be crushing hard working devs that have given their all over the years. Ubi despite their flaws and cock ups still made this a next gen only game. They did this, despite the massive risk assosited that no multiplat, 3rd party game dev has had the balls to do so far (correct me if I'm wrong - I think this statement is true though). It might not be the looker we wanted, but I actually believe that the new mechanics are going to be worth the graphical hit. It's bold move and I wish them the best. I will not pass judgement until I have it in my hands.
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
It could be other builds but I'm quite picky with graphics. I aint part of the master race, even though I was raised on a PC. But overall It looked bad imo. We probably have different standards aswell.
I don't have any confirmation but were you playing the xb1 build? Because if you were it's very likely that it's the same build that was played a month ago by journalists which also had issues.
 

R&R

Member
So posting PM's in the wild is a-ok, like non-ban worthy? Serious question.

My opinion = What an unbelievable shit move. /derail of thread
 

Alucrid

Banned
I'm not a bad person at all actually. And yea regarding the bolded, that's exactly what I said out loud. And I can understand the anger considering Watch Dogs, however, I can not understand some of the criticisms, like it having an extreme downgrade or looking like launch title.


He doesn't just say "it's fun." He goes into specifics like stealth and the way the controls feel. It's a 60 page thread on a french forum, it's hard to keep up when you don't speak French. ._.
Like for instance this post, warning direct translation.

level gameplay is better than previous ones. Climb down and it's much better . Current through the houses to escape it's great . The play also infiltration .
Yet the story is good, the missions are fun and exciting story :) . The fighting is in my opinion ... easier! I fought against five guards and I found it easy. It's weird ...

are the combat impressions from the same poster that the OP is from?
 

Chobel

Member
He doesn't just say "it's fun." He goes into specifics like stealth and the way the controls feel. It's a 60 page thread on a french forum, it's hard to keep up when you don't speak French. ._.
Like for instance this post, warning direct translation.

level gameplay is better than previous ones. Climb down and it's much better . Current through the houses to escape it's great . The play also infiltration .
Yet the story is good, the missions are fun and exciting story :) . The fighting is in my opinion ... easier! I fought against five guards and I found it easy. It's weird ...

Did he say anything about the framerate and screen tearing?
 

UrbanRats

Member
I think i participated in some pretty esoteric videogame discussions over the years, yet i still feel somewhat alienated, by whatever the fuck is going on in this thread (and correlated ones).
The whole discussion surrounding this game, really.

Fun to see unfold though, like a trainwreck, but with no victims.
 
This is a terrible way to defend a shitty looking product. It's not the hardware's fault they consistently downgrade their games from their initial reveal. It's Ubisoft's.

No, but it's easy to laugh at people who keep buying into the pre release hype bullshit. It's the same story with the same games from the same companies over and over.
 
I think i participated in some pretty esoteric videogame discussions over the years, yet i still feel somewhat alienated, by whatever the fuck is going on in this thread (and correlated ones).
The whole discussion surrounding this game, really.

Fun to see unfold though, like a trainwreck, but with no victims.

Please join us in a The Order 1886 thread sometime.
 

Skyzard

Banned
I'm watching the gameplay trailer again from a month or two back...I'm not too worried
for pc
.

Hopefully video compression was exaggerating things a lot. They should release some new gameplay trailers.
 
I think i participated in some pretty esoteric videogame discussions over the years, yet i still feel somewhat alienated, by whatever the fuck is going on in this thread (and correlated ones).
The whole discussion surrounding this game, really.

Fun to see unfold though, like a trainwreck, but with no victims.

There is a legitimate discussion to be had in regards to the controversy around the parity / possible downgrade but the way it causes some users to personaly attack each other is sad
 

Marcel

Member
Like that is something to brag about...WTF is wrong with you? Seriously...not cool.

There's not a bragging tone in what you responded to. I'm just saying, if it's a violation of the rules, I should have been punished for it before.
 
Just to add some balance for the pressure the deploment team must be under at unit... I really appreciate all the hard work that the whole unity team has put in.

I'm sure ubi forced the parity and that is part of why everything is getting so nasty, I think part of gaf believes if they get salty enough ubi might give us a 1080p ps4 unity. But I don't think it's going to happen.

Unity is going to be awesome and I dont think a lot of people here realise that some of these comments must be crushing hard working devs that have given their all over the years. Ubi despite their flaws and cock ups still made this a next gen only game. They did this, despite the massive risk assosited that no multiplat, 3rd party game dev has had the balls to do so far (correct me if I'm wrong - I think this statement is true though). It might not be the looker we wanted, but I actually believe that the new mechanics are going to be worth the graphical hit. It's bold move and I wish them the best. I will not pass judgement until I have it in my hands.


About that

Also, all products have had people work on them. You should be able to express your opinions about the product. Ubisoft is to blame for people's expectations.
 
I think people have reacted this bad because of all the bullshit pr that Ubi have done. It all started with them not wanting a debate and stuff.

I learned along time ago not to believe Ubisoft about anything, you would think other people would too. Well that and I like to use God Hand as an example as a game that looks absolutely terrible, even at the time.


Who knew the game would be so damn fun though? Now I am not comparing the gameplay in both games but I could see the co-op as well as different timelines missions + story could provide pretty fun times.
 
What seems to be the problem here?

Unless there's some rule Marcel's violating, why does it matter?

Just because it isn't against the rules doesn't mean it's not extremely immoral.

But none of us have the power to do anything about it, so I agree, we should move on.
 

sora87

Member
Ubisoft are in a real lose/lose situation here aren't they?
Doubt they can patch the PS4 version if they agreed parity with Microsoft.
 

Alucrid

Banned
I learned along time ago not to believe Ubisoft about anything, you would think other people would too. Well that and I like to use God Hand as an example as a game that looks absolutely terrible, even at the time.



Who knew the game would be so damn fun though? Now I am not comparing the gameplay in both games but I could see the co-op as well as different timelines missions + story could provide pretty fun times.

you made this point before but i don't remember god hand being touted for its "unparalleled virtual beauty and realism"
 

JayEH

Junior Member
Just because it isn't against the rules doesn't mean it's not extremely immoral.

But none of us have the power to do anything about it, so I agree, we should move on.

Immoral is an extreme word to use. Dickish is the right word in this case.
 

alatif113

Member
Just because it isn't against the rules doesn't mean it's not extremely immoral.

But none of us have the power to do anything about it, so I agree, we should move on.

A dick move is a dick move. 100 people quoting the same post over and over again to establish that it was a dick move doesn't make it any less that. Just derails the thread even further.
 
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