343 are redeemed for making Halo 4....
..but asking your to pay $60 for Halo 4 again?
Yes... $60 get's you just Halo 4.
Yup.
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Has 343 Industries redeemed themselves with Halo:MCC
- Thread starter Killer
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Yes... $60 get's you just Halo 4.
Yup.
Yeah, looks like a lot of people forget this.
I'm paying $60 for the privilege of playing Halo 2 in 1080p/60 fps on the xbone, the rest is just icing on the cake.343 are redeemed for making Halo 4....
..but asking your to pay $60 for Halo 4 again?
loaf of bread
Member
Yes, 343 redeemed themselves by remastering games they didn't make /s
Monocle
Member
They sure doubled down on them though.
I don't.
And I don't find it impressive.
343i will redeem themselves when they make a good Halo game not a good Halo collection UI.
(Not that they need to redeem themselves, Halo 4 was as good as most Halo games.)
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Redeemed themselves? More like redeemed Bungie!
Monocle
Member
Yeah I can get behind that.
Perfect Cha0s
Member
My feelings as well. I dig the old Halo games and can appreciate that they're now in 1080p 60fps (they are, right?), but asking if the MCC redeems 343i is like asking if the KH remixes and FFX/X-2 HD remasters redeemed Square Enix.
Tesseract
Banned
wow, everything is significantly worse.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
All the way through Halo 4, 343 consistently told the community what they wanted rather than listening to feedback or addressing concerns. "Don't worry, it'll be great" only goes so far. The end results being disappointing and lackluster. It'll take more than remastering old Halo games created by Bungie to win back the old Halo favor, imo, at least from me. Nail Halo 5 and they'll have it.
Yeah things like this :/. Small when separated, but they add up
Yeah things like this :/. Small when separated, but they add up
Well if you want to make the case that 343i ruined Halo, you can't go acknowledging that it was Bungie that laid the groundwork for most of it in a game that came out before it now can you?
Edit 2 : For people saying "it's just a port". Watch this video.
Edit: forgot the question mark in the title
Should point people to the original video on Xbox Live.
http://video.xbox.com/movie/remakin...iversary/30b99908-0100-11db-89ca-0019b92a3933
Not a pirated copy that NukemDukem put up on YouTube just to advertise his Twitch channel and collect ad monies.
It's pretty shit for him to rip a video that he had nothing to do with AND put his watermark on it.
Hm...yeah.
"343 Industries (user interface, online infrastructure, etc.), Saber Interactive (Halo 2 Anniversary campaign), and Certain Affinity (multiplayer)"
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06...collection-halo-5-beta-announced-for-xbox-one
With Ruffian doing 3 and 4
http://www.ruffiangames.com/halo-the-masterchief-collection/
343 basically took what Bungie did and made it better. Bungie took what Bungie did and made it worse, gave less content and generally did a half-assed job.
DOWN
Banned
343 are redeemed for making Halo 4....
..but asking your to pay $60 for Halo 4 again?
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the word Collection.
CrackaF3tt
Member
Only way they redeem themselves is with Halo 5. Porting Bungies triogly doesn't get them off the hook for the worse Halo.
king grimlock
Member
so your opinion is a fact now? good to know
I prefer the new sounds to be honest.
343 made Halo 3?
I was going to say 2.( single player wise anyway)
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
I think that's because they based it off of actual gun sounds, where the bass is much higher.
The memories are gone yes, but those sounds will be incredibly satisfactory to listen to on a 5.1/7.1 speaker system.
I don't like the SMG sound, though :/
too much eslim
Member
No because they haven't proven they can make a great game yet on their own. They were too cocky in the development of Halo 4. They were told constantly that a lot of the things they were doing were wrong on the multiplayer side of things. They though that we would adapt and deal with it. They found out that we will just abandon it. Halo 5 is the game that will determine if I will continue with the series,
However the MCC honestly make every future installment of Halo irrelevant if they turn out to be crap. I hope I enjoy the multiplayer more for Halo 5 because the gun play was fine in Halo 4, but everything else was just terrible. Having the random weapon drops, people able to randomly have super weapons, no longer really fighting over positions or weapons anymore, not having rank, and basically making it seem like there is no point in being good at the game.
I have high hopes for the beta because of the MCC. I assume they want to take a Halo 2 approach with Halo 5.
However the MCC honestly make every future installment of Halo irrelevant if they turn out to be crap. I hope I enjoy the multiplayer more for Halo 5 because the gun play was fine in Halo 4, but everything else was just terrible. Having the random weapon drops, people able to randomly have super weapons, no longer really fighting over positions or weapons anymore, not having rank, and basically making it seem like there is no point in being good at the game.
I have high hopes for the beta because of the MCC. I assume they want to take a Halo 2 approach with Halo 5.
king grimlock
Member
removing content from a collection would reduce value doesn't matter how you value that content
Well, it's not like it isn't a popular sentiment that Halo 4 was the worst game in the series. You need only look at how quickly the online community for the game evaporated compared to all the prior Halo games to see how badly the game failed to hold the interest of the fanbase when it came out.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Can't really say they are redeemed when a lot of those games are older Bungie titles that were retouched or upgraded to run better. It's a great deal and the first step in getting what fans want out of Halo, especially the multiplayer.
I just want Halo 2 MP with pretty graphics. And rocket jumping standard.
I just want Halo 2 MP with pretty graphics. And rocket jumping standard.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Not just remaster, the greatest remaster of any game. And going back to the older games is by far the best thing that could happen to Halo 5. These guys love halo, reworking the old engine, getting familiar with what made the older titles so great is definitely going to steer their decisions for Halo 5.
They got many Bungie veterans working for them already, get Marty in and they're practically old Bungie.
CrackaF3tt
Member
Nope not even close.
You just don't realise how much work they have put in to the user interface!
orthodoxy1095
Banned
They're not redeemed until we see what Halo 5 is. That's all there is to it. Remastering the games is indeed technically impressive, but there is more to game creation than being merely technically impressive. Halo 5 has a bit to prove after 4.
Now that is news to me. Ruffian did Halo 3 and 4. Interesting.
Man, the credits are gonna be looooooooooooooooong.
reptilescorpio
Member
They have great Bungie work to thank for the MCC. They are doing a great job redoing them though.
Halo 5 is the big test, just like 4 was.
Halo 5 is the big test, just like 4 was.
Naughty_Doge
Member
343 are redeemed for making Halo 4....
..but asking your to pay $60 for Halo 4 again?
Same here, the new sounds sound more realistic and just give better quality. Older ones feel... well older.
Putting four games was 343 initiative. The pricing you are right about.
Removing loadouts is already a good start for H5. There are supposed "Spartan abilities" but they are compared to dual wielding/vehicle jacking rather than Armor abilities. Guess we'll find out what that means when the beta arrives.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
It seems like most of GAF (or the vocal minority) has an everlasting hatred for 4
God do I fucking hate this defense.
Yea, it was just GAF who hated Halo 4. That's why the online population dropped off like a fucking brick.
343i can redeem themselves by releasing a game with a story that doesn't require a constant commitment to retain and follow up on the extended fiction to comprehend. A game that has great multiplayer and story missions that don't follow a formula that was dated a decade ago (Press this button, do it two more times in different locations).
A release of a decade old game that is being developed from three different studios is not redeeming them.
king grimlock
Member
still doesn't make it a fact though plenty of people think that h2 is the worst halo and plenty think that h2 was the best can it be proven and agreed on that either side is wrong or right?
This. Seems like "i hate change" type of rant from the poster.
publicpwnerer
Member
But this thread was created now, not post Halo 5. OP is asking if MCC redeems / validates 343 as successors to Bungie's Halo entries.
Pop
Member
Damnnnnn I forgot about this
Thats an extremely horrible argument a lot of people make. The whole "oh but halo 4 didn't have as much of a long lasting community as previous halos". Halo 3 didn't have the same problem that Halo 4 did, which is the "fps burn out" period. Towards Halo 4 release, there were DOZENS of AAA high quality FPS's released. Personally I loved halo 4, though yes I do agree it is the worst in the series (that or Reach), but the reason I stopped playing MP was because I simply felt bored of FPS's and needed a break, decided to play MMO's and RPG's etc...
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