Alex_Mexico
Member
Can you give me an average number f hours to beat S1? What's short for someone is long for another.
Are we talking "15 hour short"? "30 hour short"? "50 hour short"?
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Can you give me an average number f hours to beat S1? What's short for someone is long for another.
Are we talking "15 hour short"? "30 hour short"? "50 hour short"?
Alex_Mexico
Member
Thanks.
If there's a S1 summary video on Youtube someone can recommend me I'd appreciate it. I'm so jumping into Suikoden II but I think Im skipping the inferior older brethren.
Tiu Neo
Member
Unfortunately, I can't open youtube here at work... but if you don't find a good summary before playing, no worries. I played II first, and just missed a few references that I got when I played the first game, after.
nice!
So excited to finally be able to play these! When I was a kid I saw Sui2 in the shop but I only had money for 1 game so I bought Vandal Hearts 2 instead, because I had already played the first game so it was less of a gamble. Got home, saw there was a demo of Sui2 in the box, played it and loved it. The next time I had money I looked for it but I never saw it in the shop again. As the years passed and I was able to start Internet shopping, it had gotten too expensive.
So the only ones I played were 4 and 5. 4 was kinda weird but 5 was amazing
So I am going to buy both 1 and 2 once they release here on psn ^_^
So the only ones I played were 4 and 5. 4 was kinda weird but 5 was amazing
So I am going to buy both 1 and 2 once they release here on psn ^_^
Love Deterrence
Member
Awesome news! I played the original with a friend back when it was initially released, and don't remember too much. Planning to play through both soon!
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Much like Suikoden, this is bought.
Great job bringing this over finally
Great job bringing this over finally
InstallBase
Neo Member
Hi Alex,
I understand lack of time and backlogged games better than most.
While Suikoden 1 can be skipped easily - Suikoden 2 is a direct sequel, you don't need to know the history from part 1 - I would still recommend a playthrough of 1 before 2.
Firstly, part 2 is a natural progression from 1 in almost every respect. You may end up liking the series so much that you may get part 1 and play anyway. (I hope this is true)
Playing Suikoden 2 before Suikoden 1 may be jarring.
Secondly, if you have a completed save from Suikoden 1, you should be able to load that information into Suikoden 2 and get additional gameplay.
I hope that helps!
Fantastic News!
Would have been a bummer to miss out on these games especially after hearing so many great things about Suikoden II. Hopefully we get to play them on the Vita as well.
Hours Left
Member
Not that I know of.
I personally don't think of the first Suikoden as inferior. It has some archaic mechanics, but the story and characters are very much worth the effort. Plus, playing Suikoden II will be so much better afterward because of all the references and returning characters. The beauty of the series is how interconnected the games are.
You can finish the first Suikoden in less than a week. (A weekend even if you are familiar with it.)
Hours Left
Member
Tiu Neo
Member
You don't have to, but since the games share the same world, age and characters, you'll miss some pretty cool cameos and references. If you have the time, it's recomended to play the first one before.
If not, II is a fine game by itself, and you won't get lost on the story or anything like that, just miss a few references and one optional sidequest.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Refresh my memory, other than naming rights on McDohl, is there stuff that transfers from S1 to S2? I've played the first enough that unless there's something important, I think I might go straight to the second game, as I haven't played it nearly as many times.
Tiu Neo
Member
I'll put it on spoiler tags, if anyone wishes that to be a surprise. Also, Suikoden I spoilers.
There is an quest to get McDohl on your party. Some characters from Suikoden I also get an extra scene with him on this quest, if you bring them.
He doesn't join your army in the castle, but you can put him on your party anytime after this quest, by going to his house in Gregminster.
Also, if you saved Gremio, he'll be there, and, iirc, will give you a Stew recipe.
As an small bonus, some characters will get extra levels, depending on their final level on Suikoden I.
He doesn't join your army in the castle, but you can put him on your party anytime after this quest, by going to his house in Gregminster.
Also, if you saved Gremio, he'll be there, and, iirc, will give you a Stew recipe.
As an small bonus, some characters will get extra levels, depending on their final level on Suikoden I.
Hours Left
Member
Some levels and armor transfer over too.
You also can't recruit Tir without transferring data. Also, depending on what you did in the first game, your convoy partner for the McDohl sidequest will be different.
Green Yoshi
Member
I want Suikoden 3, we only got Suikoden 4, Tactics and 5 in Europe.
sixteen-bit
Member
Looking forward to playing these for the first time.
SniperHunter
Banned
Suikoden 3 was fantastic.
nrvalleytime
Member
Quoting this again since it might have been overlooked - the Konami rep has already confirmed the price in this thread:
A fair price for a game I've wanted to play for a very, very long time.
DaSorcerer7
Member
How much is it ?
When this game was first released (1998?, 1999?) I was at Toys R Us in the gaming aisle. I had the slip for Suikoden II in my hands. I bought something else instead (can't remember what) and told my self "I'll pick up this game down the road." Who knew "down the road" would equal late 2014.
I've played S1, and I own III, IV, Tactics, and V, but I have always refused to play the PS2 games until I was able to finally play S2.
It's almost sad how excited I am for this.
I've played S1, and I own III, IV, Tactics, and V, but I have always refused to play the PS2 games until I was able to finally play S2.
It's almost sad how excited I am for this.
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
But I don't want t touch my PS3 anymore. I want my PS4 to play PS1 games. :[
I want my PS4 to play PS1 games. :[
Tizoc
Member
No.
It will be up whenever Grace Chen feels like it.
It will be up whenever Grace Chen feels like it.
It will be up whenever Grace Chen feels like it.
Lately the US PS Store would update between 11 AM-2 PM Las Vegas time
Sad but true. Such a shame Suikoden was my favorite RPG series
. I would buy a console day zero with a proper Suikoden 6 game.firebranded
Member
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
(checks when these are being released)
OH SHIT it's tomorrow! Cannot wait. Thank you Konami.
OH SHIT it's tomorrow! Cannot wait. Thank you Konami.
DeviantBoi
Member
Wasn't there a game that was supposed to be "the spiritual successor to Suikoden" on Kickstarter last year?
I can't remember the name.
I can't remember the name.
TheContact
Member
Suikoden 2 is the best. I sold my copy many years ago for a $120. Will be nice to have it back. Now on a side note I really want Star Ocean 2. Come on TriAce
I can't wait for this! Going into it completely blind (I don't even know the character names) and will be starting with 1. I've heard so many good things about the series but never had a chance to play them. Thanks Konami
Is there any tips a first time player should know? Or is it pretty straightforward?
Is there any tips a first time player should know? Or is it pretty straightforward?
WHAT?!?!!? Thank the Konami overlords!!!
Scythesurge
Member
Out of all the PS1 RPGs I have played I gotta go with Suikoden 2 as being my favorite, though of course there still are some PS1 RPGs I have yet to play.
Very happy that this game is finally seeing a digital release, as many more people will be able to finally play this game and I'll be able to play it wherever I want on my Vita!
Very happy that this game is finally seeing a digital release, as many more people will be able to finally play this game and I'll be able to play it wherever I want on my Vita!
glaringradio
Member
Possibly Celesian Tales?
Crankshaft
Member
We are FINALLY getting Suikoden 2! Now to move on and pester Konami until they put Vandal Hearts on psn!
If they are going to call it "Playstation Classics" then they should have the classics on there.
If they are going to call it "Playstation Classics" then they should have the classics on there.
Begaria
Member
That's the one. I backed it to. Looks fantastic.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Yes, this. Make it happen, Gaf!
Damn, this is a game I would have supported if I knew a KS existed.
E the Shaggy
Junior Member
sensui-tomo
Member
looks like I have a reason now to get suikoden 1 as well, gonna have a fun christmas break playing these 2 games.
You might also consider Americana Dawn, which also looks promising as a Suikoden-like. I'm hoping they hit their goal, as the premise sounds really interesting. Apparently they did have a previous (successful) kickstarter, but decided to expand the project, and it sounds like they're trying to do right by previous backers.
More on-topic: Best news I've heard in a long time. Will be happy to replay the first two games again on the Vita.
Would love to see Suikoden 3 and 5 sometime too, but not holding my breath.
Can't really speak for others, but I love them because they have a personal story that intermingles with a political story. They're heavily influenced by Chinese classics (the first two especially, by Water Margin and by Three Kingdoms and Liu Bang/Xiang Yu) and so they tend to have a much more "realistic" premise than other games. Where the magical does pop in, you're not a chosen one, you're just a guy that had a harsh destiny thrust upon you by chance.
ACtually is there a way to get a complete all 108 stars of Destiny save file for Suikoden 1 onto my Vita? I played the game tons of times and I'm not sure I can power through it again (tons of other games I got going on right now also) but would love to replay Suikoden 2 without having to go through all of S1 for like the 3rd times lol.
Palom
Member
The last time I played Suikoden 1, I followed a guide to get everything, and finished it in 8 hours. The second game is much longer, though. Like 40-60 hours.