KeyboardThug
Member
They ban if you do charge backs on a purchase. I have never seen an account be banned for asking for a legitimate refund. I personally have got 2. One for a game that was misadvertised and one for a KI price drop of $5.
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Halo: The Master Chief Collection should be recalled
- Thread starter Foolishfellow
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They ban if you do charge backs on a purchase. I have never seen an account be banned for asking for a legitimate refund. I personally have got 2. One for a game that was misadvertised and one for a KI price drop of $5.
Foolishfellow
Banned
Although, I'd argue that as someone who enjoys videogames there is a complete lack of legitimate trustworthy sources that can tell me whether or not a game is broken or not. Hell, even amongst the "community" here on NeoGaf you have Halo fans trying to tell me that the game is mostly fixed.
Essentially, you have developers promising features they can't deliver, game journalism outlets that are glorified advertisers, twitch streamers that are glorified advertisers and forced into shitty NDA agreements, and regular community folks who are somehow indoctrinated into the cult of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo. There is a serious lack of good reporting on video games.
I honestly don't think it's fair to blame the consumer.
Shyakugaun
Banned
Haven't encountered any issues an ive been playing since day 1, i swear if not for the complaints on here i would swear this shit is hyperbole lol. Although i spend most of my time playing campaign an against my family
rakkadakka
Member
There are issues but it seems like OP has been saving up for this topic for the entirety of his ban. Might have been timely at release but 343 is putting out patches every few days to fix this damn thing. Yeah it's buggy but threads like this make the current situation seem much worse than it actually is.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Come on. Everyone knows his account is ntkrnl.
Shyakugaun
Banned
Figured as much
Bolded is the important part. Time and time again these issues are not found until the game is live and the masses start playing it online. Reviews cannot be trusted that are published before the game goes live when it comes to online aspects.
Does anyone really trust day one reviews when it comes to online aspects of these AAA titles?
By community I meant the gamers buying the game. I'm sure more than zero people will always buy these AAA games, but it doesn't need to be 1 million +. If the majority waited to purchase due to being cautious over online issues, I would like to think these types of issues would happen much less frequently.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Frankly, I'm not sure what you're talking about, I noticed nothing strange with them, they were just as I remember them (this was my fifth or sixth complete playthrough of Halo: CE, and the second one of the anniversary remaster). Now that I think about it, I did encounter a few clipping glitches during the gameplay, but nothing excessive.
victimroyalty
Banned
I don't know what to say because I feel like patches help some and hurt others. It's strange. I do agree that a recall or something should be issued by now. After applying the update, the first match I went into loaded then kicked me to the multiplayer after match screen where I had to wait. Only so much people can take and I really, really feel sorry for people who can't enjoy this game after spending their money on it. Something needs to be done soon.
Foolishfellow
Banned
No dedicated servers. Not being able to play a game in a party with four friends without having to repeatedly re-start my Xbox (confirmed to be common issue amongst all 4 friends in party). Simple things like button input (Halo CE) are not even working correctly.
Do you mean that literally, or as in "Microsoft"? Because I doubt it was 343i's decision to rush this game out.
TRD Mr Blonde
Member
Now is the time to vote with your wallet. Don't purchase anything day one or even day 40 from 343 again. Maybe they'll get the message.
bananafactory
Banned
OK the only thing I could find was about people getting banned for using poor/flimsy reasoning when trying to refund Destiny.
Other than that yeah it seems like it's just chargebacks that will get you banned which seems the same as most similar services.
Might check with MS and get a refund for now.
Other than that yeah it seems like it's just chargebacks that will get you banned which seems the same as most similar services.
Might check with MS and get a refund for now.
Foolishfellow
Banned
Also, see bottom half of OP. List of significant issues experienced within 3 hours of gaming post-update last night. How is that not timely?
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Yeah but 343 outsourced all the work and had their name on the box.
The game is 343's product. They should absolutely be help responsible for it.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Things aren't working. The active roster is still glitched. Games are still often uneven. Teams are still getting split regularly. MP matches are still almost always p2p instead of on dedis as promised. The game still crashes on exit from MP games on occasion, forcing the entire party to force quit and relaunch the game.
Four weeks and several GB's worth of patches later, all they've really accomplished is shorter matchmaking wait times. This thing's a train wreck.
Foolishfellow
Banned
For all intents and purposes 343 is Microsoft. They are one in the same, in everything but name. Microsoft created 343 to handle Halo post-Bungie. Halo is one of Microsoft's flagship titles.
After never getting matchmaking to work for me and having it delete my save for the second time, I just sold it on Amazon. Sucks for the dude who paid for it, but I wasn't going to let it sit there and devalue while I considered it hardly worth even playing. I'll buy it again in 6 months if it happens to work properly.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
That Polygon review is legitimately criminal. Someone should be sued.
bananafactory
Banned
The IGN one is even worse since they specifically cite the multiplayer issues but then just add in they hopefully get resolved.
Foolishfellow
Banned
Exactly, and honestly the matchmaking times are only marginally shorter. Even in the most stable playlists like Halo 2 Anniversary and Slayer I sometimes wait for around 5 minutes to find a match.
uncledonnie
Banned
Is this problem worse for some people than what I am experiencing? I know there are some issues with mid-mission checkpoints but I've been able to save just fine.
Not questioning it, just haven't kept up with what's going on I guess and I haven't really experienced not being able to save.
Cert.in.Death
Member
The grounds of the EA suit are completely different from what you are proposing. The class action suit was for insider trading, stock manipulation, and fraud, not for product defect. The plaintiffs didn't necessarily own the game and their claim survives irrespective of whether the game functioned. What they sued on were inherent misrepresentations by executives in the bargaining process, inducing the plaintiffs to purchase stock on knowingly fraudulent grounds.
There is a legal claim to make with respect to the defects inherent in MCC, but it's deciding what that claim is that will make or break your cause. And even if you have an argument, you'll have to be prepared to litigate, and that's not cheap. Your best solution is to either file a complaint with the FTC or vote with your wallet by demanding a refund.
Cheer up: at least you are in a position to be able to enjoy playing videogames.
SEGAvangelist
Member
They reduced the score to an 8 if it makes you feel better.
Shalashaska161
Member
I'm pretty frustrated with it as well. I bought an XB1 for it and I've played probably an hours worth because I've been waiting to hear that the game has been fixed. It reflects incredibly poorly on both 343 and MS and pretty much kills the hype I had for Halo 5.
I thought there was some GAF hyperbole going on in some of the complaint threads. Then I played the game for a few hours on my friend's XB1, and all of the problems were consistent with OP's complaints as well as other threads. I agree it's offensive to expect customers to put up with it.
That being said, my friend (and sadly others as well) just seem complacent and ambivalent about some of these kinds of practices. "Well, hey, I can get into matches some of the time," etc....as if that's a legitimate consolation prize.
Meanwhile, the press' ugly duckling console Wii U has free online and people playing Smash Brothers online with little to no issues. Why there aren't more journalists screaming to the heavens about that sort of disparity is ridiculous. Call a spade a spade. Praise people/things for doing things well, and criticise what deserves to be criticized.
(I do think Game Trailers in general provides great commentary/coverage for what its worth, however).
That being said, my friend (and sadly others as well) just seem complacent and ambivalent about some of these kinds of practices. "Well, hey, I can get into matches some of the time," etc....as if that's a legitimate consolation prize.
Meanwhile, the press' ugly duckling console Wii U has free online and people playing Smash Brothers online with little to no issues. Why there aren't more journalists screaming to the heavens about that sort of disparity is ridiculous. Call a spade a spade. Praise people/things for doing things well, and criticise what deserves to be criticized.
(I do think Game Trailers in general provides great commentary/coverage for what its worth, however).
Should Polygon update their MCC review just like with Driveclub?
EDIT :
I see.
SEGAvangelist
Member
They did.
Foolishfellow
Banned
I haven't been playing single player campaign much. When I first got the game it seemed to crash in online co-op a lot. Playing solo Halo CE, there was a mission that completely froze on me at the very end of a level and I had to completely start over.
In general I can only speak to the multiplayer matchmaking issues.
It was Arthur Gies. I bet he cried in a corner for an hour when they lowered the score.
Multiplayer issues aside, the game had lots of other problems in the single player that Arthur should have noticed. Giving that game a 9.5 was nothing short of sucking up to Microsoft and fanboy behavior.
IIRC CBOAT mostly had accurate info, sure there weren't much positive news coming from him/her but I guess it's better than nothing.
Sure it's easy to blame 343i but do you think that MS or 343i made the decision for the launch date? also correct me if I'm wrong but Halo: CEA & Halo 4 both worked pretty well at launch with no significant issues.
What I can't believe is how much this game was protrayed as (I'm not sure if it originated from MS PR or the something that somehow became "the description" for the game) a "love letter for the series and its fans" (Check out all the different outlets using the phrase pre and post launch)
I'm lucky to not give a shit about Halo, but if I were a fan of the series I would be pissed for how poorly managed this supposed love letter was deemed acceptable for release and then saying fans "deserve better" when everyone sees how pissed on, shit covered the letter is.
I'm lucky to not give a shit about Halo, but if I were a fan of the series I would be pissed for how poorly managed this supposed love letter was deemed acceptable for release and then saying fans "deserve better" when everyone sees how pissed on, shit covered the letter is.
Pathfinder
Member
Banned for lying to us.
plasmawave
Banned
What's hilarious is that IGN gave the game an extra week to review the online component and still gave the game a 9.
"Yeah, half of the content is still broken but fuck it, 9/10!".
Miles Quaritch
Member
Insult to injury?
Chinbo37
Member
Oh I am sure there are plenty of good games but Im not at the point of buying a next gen console yet. But Halo MCC almost changed my mind!
BuggeryBugz
Member
To all the people still having issues, get a refund or sell it. It seems like there is a thread every hour complaining about the issues, do something about.
what does that have to do with the game?
Reach's campaign is good though
bananafactory
Banned
On second thought I'm not going to refund the game because I'm holding out hope we'll get some sort of good compensation for being patient with this.
I'm also curious to check out that Halo 5 beta, when is it again?
I'm also curious to check out that Halo 5 beta, when is it again?
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
The sad part is that even when the game works the only people left are the most hardcore followers that are really into Halo. I'm not bad at the game but I can't keep up with the true fanatics.
The casual players tried to play the first week and gave up.
The casual players tried to play the first week and gave up.
Didn't know that. :/