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[DVCY201]

It's just not something that's common with these companies. I don't think it's their job to tell us how many, it's their job to make people try to do anything to get one no matter what the cost. On this front it appears they've succeeded.

And if they completely sell out it's a really good thing for them because they won't overproduce. The people who will pass because they couldn't get a special edition are a relatively small demographic if you looks at 3DS sales as a whole and the duration of the special consoles on the markets and in stores.

I agree. It's very rare that I ever learn about the amount for print-runs of Limited Editions. Only one I concretely knew was Drakengard 3 (5000), but most of the time I get the speech "once it's gone, it's gone, so order now!". As long as it sells they're happy and in many cases it's better not to say the amount, impulse buying is a decent factor. For all we know, maybe Nintendo did print 400,000 or 40,000, or etc. there's not indicator that it's 'extremely' limited

Secondly Majora's Mask is a darling to people, myself included. However, I think we actually overestimate demand. Ocarina of Time sold 7.6 million on the N64, only to go on and do 3.35 million on the 3DS. A Link to the Past sold 4.61 on the SNES, A Link Between Worlds sold 2.51 on the 3DS. Majora's Mask only did 3.36 million on the N64, so hypothetically, let's say it does 1.48 million plus new fans, and without some original fans as well. Additionally, not everyone is going to upgrade their 3DS, some will remain with their OG.

So Nintendo goes ahead, designs the console and it's box, prints/manufactures them, and ships them out while taking up shelf space alongside 2 permanent SKUs, plus the 2DS and remaining OGXL. This is all costing additional money for a limited time and what is possibly a smaller audience than both previous 3DS Zelda releases. To me, I'd rather underproduce than overproduce, guarantee that I get a ROI after selling a certain amount rather than having to discount it in time for the next LE 3DS console.

In a perfect world, everyone who wanted the console would get it. But, in my opinion, what Nintendo is doing is not unfounded nor done with little thought and regard.

 

[Artorias]

I'm going off the fact that both GS and BB didn't know how many they were getting. As I said, it seems like there was terrible communication between Nintendo and retailers, or this could've been avoided?

I mean, Nintendo has been SILENT on this entire fiasco. They could at least let us know how limited these are, if there are any more production runs, or if we're all doomed. Instead it's just silence.

Is this your first experience with an LE/CE gaming wise? This is literally how it goes with the ones that are actually limited. BB, Amazon, and GS almost always open preorders before getting their final numbers, then reopen them later. This does seem to be more limited than usual in NA, but aside from that this is absolutely standard.

Best Buy oversold by a lot. I don't see how thats the fault of anyone but BB. Why would Nintendo need to comment at all?

 

[Night Angel]

I think the scalper mentality and scalpers are really what has been hurting the western releases recently. Not too sure why this is happening so much, but the issue has become extremely prevalent in the last few months.

It's happening because Nintendo has repeatedly underestimated demand and shipped a pitifully small amount of multiple products. Scalpers see these and buy them up, knowing that the supply/demand ratio will favor them.

If more units were released, scalpers would be unable to profit. Unfortunately, Nintendo seems to like releasing extremely limited stock of obviously in-demand items, so we can expect this trend to continue.

 

[secretanchitman]

Had mine cancelled earlier this evening. Got the $50 code - is it true that I can use it on anything on the website?

Sucks but oh well. Didn't look like Majora's Mask really took advantage of the New 3DS XL besides 360 c-stick camera anyway, unless I'm missing something.

 

[Thoraxes]

It's happening because Nintendo has repeatedly underestimated demand and shipped a pitifully small amount of multiple products. Scalpers see these and buy them up, knowing that the supply/demand ratio will favor them.

If more units were released, scalpers would be unable to profit. Unfortunately, Nintendo seems to like releasing extremely limited stock of obviously in-demand items, so we can expect this trend to continue.

If your posited scenario of releasing more units happened, scalpers could theoretically buy even more consoles and have an even greater control of the distribution of consoles too. Making more or less consoles won't really deter them unless there's a way to tie it to their SSN or something.

I just can't go with jumping to conclusions about underestimating stock when there are no numbers/evidence out there proving any of this. For all we know scalpers could've bought 90% of the stock and the print run could be 300k Special Edition consoles for all we know.

For all we know, enough stock was made to line up with their sales data. Or maybe they decided that they wanted to screw over everyone and purposefully under-produce the special edition consoles. And if it doesn't affect their sales and they sell out of all the special edition consoles, then they've effectively read the market correctly.

Maybe with the FY 2014 meetings we'll know a little more about performance in the marketspace. NOA has lost them a lot of money according to the investor reports, so maybe it's wise to lowball production despite the demand in order to ensure no over-production happens. Maybe it's totally wrong and sustainability would actually increase if they'd only produce more.

 

[SnakeEyez]

Maaan I'm bout to just call it a day and get the mh bundle. All this fucking around for this majoras mask xl is getting me tight.

 

[Monster Zero]

I don't think people understand scalpers, they would just buy more if Nintendo released more, do we even know how have been shipped or are we assuming ninty under shipped

 

[Padinn]

Mine was also cancelled, just found out this morning (got email other day). Only purchased one, got a $50 promo code for my next purchase.

Very saddened...debating if I should grab one of the regular New 3DS XLs or hold off.

 

[TheDarkTriforce]

I believe this is not not the first time that BestBuy accepts more preorders than they can acceppt and then cancels preorders randomly to fit their stocks.

 

[Enigmatic Rainbow]

Maaan I'm bout to just call it a day and get the mh bundle. All this fucking around for this majoras mask xl is getting me tight.

Is the MH system still available for pre-order in the US?

 

[VICI0US]

Is the MH system still available for pre-order in the US?

gamestop was accepting WIS orders yesterday but their supply varied by region. they were still available around 5PM last night in my region (west.) Your best bet is to call a local store and ask them to check for you.

 

[inner-G]

Too bad there isn't some sort of customizable faceplate for n3DS, then you could make it look however you wanted.

 

[Vitacat]

Just woke up a little while ago. My order is still in process, and no cancel email from BB.

Seems like they randomly cancelled people. Doesn't seem to be a pattern.

Hope there isn't a second round coming... eek

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

Too bad there isn't some sort of customizable faceplate for n3DS, then you could make it look however you wanted.

Oh, come on! Who in their right mind would buy that?!

 

[TangerineCloud]

My pre-order survived the night. Thank the lawd.

 

[Theandrin]

My pre-order survived the night. Thank the lawd.

So far mine too. I don't know what to think right now. Is my order going to be safe or will it be cancelled?! The wait is driving me nuts.

 

[Revven]

My pre-order survived overnight as well. I hope they've stopped cancelling.

 

[Twilight Princess]

Majora's mask is the least popular entry in the series though (on console), link's crossbow training did more.

 

[Bullza2o]

Just logged in at BB.com and my order is still there. I really hope it doesn't get canceled...

 

[kewlmyc]

Still sticking in here. Hoping for the best.

 

[ironmang]

I don't think people understand scalpers, they would just buy more if Nintendo released more, do we even know how have been shipped or are we assuming ninty under shipped

I doubt it. Nobody is scalping random shit that anybody can walk in and purchase release week with no problems.

The problem really is the hype brought on by people "needing" this limited thing. Opportunists see people losing their shit over some item and then smartly middleman for some free cash.... assuming they didn't sell preorders that were cancelled of course lol.

Even though it's taboo around these parts, the hype is making me think about selling mine if BBY doesn't cancel and the prices climb further. ~400 after shipping and fees would definitely be my breaking point. Would get a free n3DS at that point and not have to worry about keeping the MM one scratch free.

 

[djSyndrome]

I could give a shit if this happened to me.

But it was for my daughter. Explained it to her this morning and she took it in stride (and appreciated the extra $50 back), but this will be the last time we shop at Best Buy for anything, ever. Shame since we were about to drop $4k on appliances there, too.

 

[Juke Joint Jezebel]

Seeing stuff like this really does make me wish there was a restriction on stores and sites giving out pre-order oppurtunities until actual known stock numbers are comfirmed by the provider AND the store, instead of "estimating".how many they'll be provided before throwing the pre-order out there. Allowing people to pre-order on the day a product is announced, or before the store has gotten actual confirmed stock numbers hurts both the stores reputation, and the customers confidence in the store if they get their pre-order cancelled out of nowhere with no prior warning. Nobody wins.

 

[spindashing]

I'm sorry to the folks that had their orders cancelled. I'd be pissed if I were in your shoes, and for good reason too.

 

[spookyfish]

Yep mine was canceled too.

That really sucks.

 

[spookyfish]

So, "Limited" means "Limited as long as it's enough for me to get one at my own leisure"?

I applaud Nintendo for making a limited item truly limited. As a dedicated fan, I was both to order both without a hitch. Shame on Best Buy for overselling if they didn't know/overestimated their allocation.

"I approve of their methods because I was able to get one."

You better believe I'm bitter.

 

[Vitacat]

Seeing stuff like this really does make me wish there was a restriction on stores and sites giving out pre-order oppurtunities until actual known stock numbers are comfirmed by the provider AND the store, instead of "estimating".how many they'll be provided before throwing the pre-order out there. Allowing people to pre-order on the day a product is announced, or before the store has gotten actual confirmed stock numbers hurts both the stores reputation, and the customers confidence in the store if they get their pre-order cancelled out of nowhere with no prior warning. Nobody wins.

Hmm, but there's still a LOT we don't know.

For example, the BB pre-order lasted about 15 - 30 minutes. So they must've had some number in place. How do we know it wasn't Nintendo who later told BB they were getting less than they were originally told. Is that not also a possibility?

Let's not assign blame until we know for sure. NOA has been painfully undersupplying NA for many items, not just this. So I'm not too quick to blame retailers.

 

[Oxn]

Hmm, but there's still a LOT we don't know.

For example, the BB pre-order lasted about 15 - 30 minutes. So they must've had some number in place. How do we know it wasn't Nintendo who later told BB they were getting less than they were originally told. Is that not also a possibility?

Let's not assign blame until we know for sure. NOA has been painfully undersupplying NA for many items, not just this. So I'm not too quick to blame retailers.

I think it lasted 30minutes.

I entered at around the 10 minute mark. Still got my pre order.

 

[spookyfish]

So my conspiracy nature says it is weird this happened the day after GameStop had more stock for preorder.

I'm only being half-serious ...

 

[Roddslayer]

Well with my $50 I got Omega Ruby and $10 in eshop bucks. Once I put in the promotional code it made it tax exempt as well, not too shabby.

 

[TheFurizzlyBear]

So my conspiracy nature says it is weird this happened the day after GameStop had more stock for preorder.

I'm only being half-serious ...

I would not read in to it too much. GameStop does a better job at making sure they don't oversell (I'm not saying it does not happen). Best Buy has had issues with this before, specifically with Nintendo. My bet is they buy an allotment from Nintendo and Nintendo says we may have more later for you to buy. Best Buy assumes they will be able to buy more then they sell the expected units so they know how much extra to buy. Nintendo comes back and says "we are all done selling, no extras after all" and Best Buy then cancels their extra orders. I dont think Nintendo is at fault here (outside of making these extremely limited). Best Buy probably gets overzealous about selling preorders before knowing exactly how many they are getting. GameStop seems to do a better job sticking to the estimate/exact number they are given by Nintendo

 

[EloNoolah]

Had mine cancelled, which is like the cherry on the shit sundae that has been trying to order this system in the first place and dealing with Best Buy's overall incompetence regarding amiibo.

On the (somewhat) brighter side, however, I used the $50 credit to order the Limited Edition of Theatrhythm Curtain Call and a $10 eshop card, but something in my gut tells me they'll end up shipping the standard edition of Theatrhythm instead of the limited despite what's listed on the site. I'm almost dreading the arrival of my order and the potential disappointment. Can anyone who's ordered the "Limited Edition" from Best Buy's site within the last month or so confirm that that is indeed what you receive, or can I expect to have my heart broken by Best Buy yet again?

 

[Code_Link]

Cancelled too. My heart breaks.

 

[Vitacat]

Had mine cancelled, which is like the cherry on the shit sundae that has been trying to order this system in the first place and dealing with Best Buy's overall incompetence regarding amiibo.

On the (somewhat) brighter side, however, I used the $50 credit to order the Limited Edition of Theatrhythm Curtain Call and a $10 eshop card, but something in my gut tells me they'll end up shipping the standard edition of Theatrhythm instead of the limited despite what's listed on the site. I'm almost dreading the arrival of my order and the potential disappointment. Can anyone who's ordered the "Limited Edition" from Best Buy's site within the last month or so confirm that that is indeed what you receive, or can I expect to have my heart broken by Best Buy yet again?

Yeah... you won't get the LE. I ordered that a few weeks ago when it was on a little sale. With my GCU and a reward card it was incredibly cheap, like $23 maybe? But it's just the regular edition. I even went to my local BB to ask about it and they agreed it was a mistake that it's still listed as LE. But apparently they have yet to fix the mistake.

 

[808life]

Fry's sent me this email.

Dear ANDREW :

Thank you for your order #***************** .

Due to overwhelming demand or insufficient availability from our
supplier(s) we are unable to fulfill your entire order. Please note
the item(s) listed below have been removed from your order because
it is no longer available.

 

[Jarmel]

Wow. Nintendo completely fucked this up.

 

[webkatt]

Fry's sent me this email.

Dear ANDREW :

Thank you for your order #***************** .

Due to overwhelming demand or insufficient availability from our
supplier(s) we are unable to fulfill your entire order. Please note
the item(s) listed below have been removed from your order because
it is no longer available.

Damn. Fry's too?

Waiting for the Amazon cancellations next.

 

[DrROBschiz]

This is a real bummer

I genuinely feel for all of you that are getting screwed on this

Looks like the supply is more limited than we thought


This is why I jumped on teh Monster Hunter one so fast

 

[hammertomb]

My best buy order got cancelled.

 

[//ARCANUM]

Damn. Fry's too?

Waiting for the Amazon cancellations next.

...you know Amazon never had it for sale right?

 

[Bar81]

NOA full of assclowns re-confirmed. Why does this only happen in America and only to Nintendo.

 

[SolarMystic]

This is why I never preorder limited editions of anything at bestbuy, even though I have a gamers club account with them. They almost always oversell on truly limited items.

If I do ever preorder a limited edition from bestbuy, I always have a backup preorder at gamestop, as they will never oversell due to how their system is set up.

 

[NIGHT-]

No email yet... Hopefully mine stays safe

 

[SnakeEyez]

Is the MH system still available for pre-order in the US?

Probably, it looks like the MH bundle is not selling as much or has a higher stock because every single store i called in NYC to ask about the Majora's Mask XL, they would always say "nah but we got the MH one available" :/

 

[npa189]

Still looks good on my end, but I'm dreading an email. Is the cancellation process completely random? I ordered on the 14th as fast as I could when the page went up, but it seems a lot of you guys did that too. I want to know how many are actually being made.

 

[Parallacs]

...you know Amazon never had it for sale right?

Amazon.ca had it up for an hour.

 

[StAidan]

No cancellation from my Best Buy order yet. I'll be bummed if it happens since I canceled my GameStop preorder after "securing" this one. I was nowhere near one of the first people to bestbuy.com though.

 

[m_shortpants]

Fry's sent me this email.

Dear ANDREW :

Thank you for your order #***************** .

Due to overwhelming demand or insufficient availability from our
supplier(s) we are unable to fulfill your entire order. Please note
the item(s) listed below have been removed from your order because
it is no longer available.

Wow, that sucks. sorry man.

This really is hopeless

 

[RuneFactoryFanboy]

My brother just had his canceled. Great...now I'm on the lookout for one for him.

I wonder if Meijers gets limited edition consoles.

 

[HCgamer]

I bough Super Mario 3d World wii for $2 shipped using my $50 code from bb.