Icyflamez96
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You say that as if the only reason people wanted FFXV was for KH combat.
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Final Fantasy XV Demo Gameplay (XB1 & PS4 demos), Battle System, Night & Map Shown
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You say that as if the only reason people wanted FFXV was for KH combat.
People are investing way too much into some arbitrary percentage/number.
Seems as fast as BbS for the most part. The point I'm making was that the game is not what it was when it was called vsXIII. That's all.
Meccanical
Member
From the very beginning they were meant to be different.
This looks so much better combat-wise than FFXV it not even funny.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
If people are complaining about the combat then i think so.
flaxknuckles
Member
Absolutely disgusting. Hopefully he keeps Kingdom Hearts pure and doesn't indulge in baby-mode features such as this (or at least put an optional way to manually switch weapons).
SolidSnakex
Member
No. Nomura has already stated that at the time that it was announced the actual game wasn't in development. They had a concept and CG, that was about it. The percentage also doesn't mean much because you don't really know what it means to the developer.
The slow-mo/pause in FFXV is the one that stands out to me immediately and I definitely do not like this addition.
Okay. Now you're just trolling. This is literally hitting GameFAQs level.
Icyflamez96
Member
Not my point.
Even they were probably meant to, but the combat definitely looked way more KH esque in the Versus days.
So just because people are complaining about the combat means they can't like the look of all of the other aspects of FFXV? Think a little.
He always intended VSXIII to be different, anyway.
He's the visionary behind KH. I'm not even worried about his involvement in KH3.
Meccanical
Member
If we bitch enough they'll remove it.
I don't like it either, it's unnecessary.
Such an effect should only be for criticals.
And no jumping, no movement based dodging, movement in general has been greatly reduced. Then the combat speed has just been sucked out of it. I understand FFXV is a different game, it just doesnt look like a better one.
LouisaFerre
Member
Wasn't the combat in the 2011 build slowed down for the trailer so people could see what was going on better?
NoctisVsStar
Member
agreed, i'll judge it in a few weeks.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Oh chill. I was talking about people specifically complaing about the combat. And idk much about all these other aspects people complaining about.
It'll take a while, but game development doesn't progress at a linear rate. It's another 1-1.5 years tops. They'll force it into the next FY if it kills them, they're outsourcing a bunch to churn out all the assets they need.
flaxknuckles
Member
It's trolling to want a manual way to switch weapons? Do you not like the way I word my comments or something? Pssh
Seven Force
Banned
Uh... pretty sure you can jump in XV.
Icyflamez96
Member
That's exactly what i'm talking about. You're implying that people who don't like the look of the combat must not like the look of anything else that FFXV presents. It doesn't make any sense.
No, that was the TGS 2010 teaser.
Lifejumper
Member
Did you even watch the full walktrough?
I really don't want to draw a line and label one side as "action" and the other side "non-action/pseudo-action" but to me FFXV is hardly action anymore. I've said it before previously but FFXV just doesn't look like it has the makings and foundations of an action game anymore. Because of it's pace and how we're told the way combat plays it just feels more like pseudo-action and to me that just sounds boring especially when you're told that Noctis has a lot of cool moves at his disposal.
I'm going to have to assume you haven't even watch the gameplay video in the OP.
Dude, what.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Well my bad I was only aiming my comment related to combat.
Here you go, no need to search for it
(inb4 he can't jump 6ft in the air what the heck he's supposed to be some magic dude)
(inb4 he can't jump 6ft in the air what the heck he's supposed to be some magic dude)
Icyflamez96
Member
Not quite getting what you mean here. You're referring to people that only want the game because of the combat or something?
Anyway, sorry for being hostile about this but those types of comments are sort of a little pet peeve of mine >.<
flaxknuckles
Member
I'm on the same boat. Everything they've announced just sounds like simplifying/automating of other action games features and the game doesn't even let you play as your party members. It doesn't sound appealing as a Final Fantasy game or action game to me. I'll hold semi-final judgement until the demo impressions come out though.
Lol flying aerial combos to hopping....either way the vertical combat focus has decreased dramatically.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
It seems like you're looking for an ability that's akin to dodge roll from KH2 or quick run. From what I've seen, there is movement based dodging, it's just slower. Besides, I expect more abilities to be unlocked at later levels, like in KH2.
manipulate
Member
nah, it was just really dumb
the_sun_king
Member
Geez, people, there's a difference between "action" game and action RPG. This was never gonna be a pure "action" game.
NoctisVsStar
Member
people want their jumping/attacking ala Sora ;P which is there.
Aerial combos you say
(And yeah, watching like 2 minutes before that timestamp - the hitstun really needs to go. So much more fluid without)
edit: f u wmlk
That's not what we're saying.
the_sun_king
Member
Have you thought to remember that the demo has you playing at very low levels? This isn't even everything that the full Active Cross Battle system will include.
Yes. However, one doesn't need to play the entire game to judge the core design. Now judging the actual execution is a different story. I'm judging merely what's on paper and what we've seen.
This is why Im so damn confused...this looks totally different than the demo. "He's at a lower level so the combat is VASTLY different". I have no idea how this combat works. With thi video and the demo video side by side.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Just because something isn't in the demo, doesn't mean it's not going to be in the final game, especially if it's something that has been shown recently.
Lifejumper
Member
Yes please.
Tabata actually put together that extra presentation because people were saying the combat in TGS trailer looked way too simple so they showed off some higher-level stuff.
APPARENTLY THEY MIGHT HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN LOL
and please remove 80% of the hitstun
Nomura said that the 2006 reveal trailer and the abilities we saw was an example of a high-level Noctis.
Tabata reiterated the same thing with gameplay just months ago.
And yeah, kill a lot of the hitstun. This looks so beautiful without the hitstun. You guys have a ton of visual feedback with particles, we don't need that much slowdown.
I understand the slowdown for critical, but this is overkill. Of course, I haven't played the game but just looking at it it's kinda crazy.
90% please.
Icyflamez96
Member
Wait I thought the combat shown in these recent vids were low level and that they stated that Noctis was at a higher level in a vid previous to this one?
Lifejumper
Member
Nah man I disagree. Good weapon feedback is important. Dont want to feel like im slicing air.
DirgeExtinction
Member
This video was low level Noctis.
The one that had the weather demo and Behemoth/Goblin fight was higher level Noctis.
If I'm right.
Icyflamez96
Member
Yeah this is what I feel. Definitely lessen it from now, but 90% is to much imo
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