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STEAM | March 2015 - Have you seen MRORANGE?

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Nabs

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i don't get the point of the whole steam machine thing if they're gonna cost as much as a normal computer

what's the benefit of buying this

Why would it be cheaper than a normal computer when it's just a normal computer? A Steambox is simply a box that can fit in the living area for people who don't want to build their own computer. It's going to be really attractive for people who just want to jump into VR w/o worrying about the little things.
 

jediyoshi

Member
yeah ... that looks extremely comfortable to use
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The controllers will be wireless and everything else will get consolidated down to a single wire. How encumbered do you feel when you use a wired 360 controller on your PC right now?
 

Uraizen

Banned
Steam machines will bomb hard, those prices are nothing special.

They should just do 1 steam machine with med specs, and price it at 399$/€

Yup, don't see any point to them. I would say they should have standardized specs for a few years then switch it up, but then it would be no different than a console and devs might only aim for those specs.
 

lashman

Steam-GAF's Official Ambassador to Gaming-GAF
The controllers will be wireless and everything else will get consolidated down to a single wire. How encumbered do you feel when you use a wired 360 controller on your PC right now?

I'm not using a wired controller (or a wired keyboard ... or a wired mouse, for that matter)
 

zkylon

zkylewd
Joe the Plumber doesn't want to go to Newegg and buy parts and then install an OS and then put a giant tower next to their TV.
i'm not sure "joe the plumber" will be happy with linux

Why would it be cheaper than a normal computer when it's just a normal computer? A Steambox is simply a box that can fit in the living area for people who don't want to build their own computer. It's going to be really attractive for people who just want to jump into VR w/o worrying about the little things.
i'm confused what audience is this that is interested in buying an expensive vr set, is fine with using linux but doesn't want to waste time building their own computer
 

MUnited83

For you.
i don't get the point of the whole steam machine thing if they're gonna cost as much as a normal computer

what's the benefit of buying this

Not having to build one? Steam Machine-K from CyberPowerPC is actually reasonable priced considering the components, and it's on a small box that you can just plug and play. I actually feel tempted to buy it.(but I doubt that the cooling is any good so I won't)

i'm not sure "joe the plumber" will be happy with linux

Good thing he can install windows if he wants then :)
 

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XShagrath

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How is Steam Link going to really differ from their in-home streaming option? I can already hook my laptop up to my TV and play through that (although I haven't really tried it very heavily).

The only way I'd really buy a Steam Link is if it didn't have to render it on the desktop screen at the same time. When I was testing streaming the first time, my wife freaked out when a game popped up while she was trying to do some classwork. If it can't run in the background, then it's pretty worthless (at least to me).
 

zkylon

zkylewd
Not having to build one? Steam Machine-K from CyberPowerPC is actually reasonable priced considering the components, and it's on a small box that you can just plug and play. I actually feel tempted to buy it.(but I doubt that the cooling is any good so I won't)
don't they have prebuilt pcs already in america or what?

Good thing he can install windows if he wants then :)
well the example was that our friend joe the plumber was lazy and stupid enough not to want to install an os in the first place
 

Nabs

Member
How is Steam Link going to really differ from their in-home streaming option? I can already hook my laptop up to my TV and play through that (although I haven't really tried it very heavily).

The only way I'd really buy a Steam Link is if it didn't have to render it on the desktop screen at the same time. When I was testing streaming the first time, my wife freaked out when a game popped up while she was trying to do some classwork. If it can't run in the background, then it's pretty worthless (at least to me).

Steam Link is for people without another PC or those who don't want to use their laptops to stream to. It's not magic.
 

Hanzou

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Not having to build one? Steam Machine-K from CyberPowerPC is actually reasonable priced considering the components, and it's on a small box that you can just plug and play. I actually feel tempted to buy it.(but I doubt that the cooling is any good so I won't)



Good thing he can install windows if he wants then :)
Which defeats the purpose of a steam box. These things are supposed to be easy to use, similar to a console. Installing Windows requires you to backup data, format the drive, buy Windows for $100. Install it plus all the new drivers and stuff. A lot of people will just say Fuck it and buy an ps4 or xbox for $400.
 

MUnited83

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don't they have prebuilt pcs already in america or what?


well the example was that our friend joe the plumber was lazy and stupid enough not to want to install an os in the first place

Some people don't want a huge ass tower under their TV, they prefer a small setbox.
 

jediyoshi

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Which defeats the purpose of a steam box. These things are supposed to be easy to use, similar to a console. Installing Windows requires you to backup data, format the drive, buy Windows for $100. Install it plus all the new drivers and stuff. A lot of people will just say Fuck it and buy an ps4 or xbox for $400.

So they won't. Problem solved :D
 

Locust

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$4.99 vs. 5.66€
Funny how euro prices keep going up almost as if companies are now following the euro to USD conversion rate, which went mostly ignored for years when USD was weak and euro was strong. In the case of Bundle Stars bundles we're talking about few dollars at most but it's still annoying.
It's because of the new EU VAT directive for digital goods though.

also, if all these steam boxes are coming out in November won't they be woefully outdated then?
 

MUnited83

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Are any of the steam machines worth buying price-wise based on the cost of the hardware?

A couple of them are. Hell, one of them is cheaper than building the a PC Tower equivalent on Europe. (though the cooling may not be up to snuff, that remains to be seen)
 

zkylon

zkylewd
oh wow the huge spoilers in the there came an echo gb quicklook
is it a sequel to sequence?!? wow

Most of them are. But there are few of them that use mobile GPUs placed directly on motherboard so you can't change GPU.
yeah that's what i'm afraid of considering they're small cases
 

MUnited83

For you.
are the steam machines upgradable?


just buy a console!

most of the controller support games are on console anyways

And lose the wonderful Steam sales? Makes no sense. And the steam controller is designed from the ground up to play mouse games.
 

jediyoshi

Member
well the example was that our friend joe the plumber was lazy and stupid enough not to want to install an os in the first place

Nope! Just an extension of the laziness thing. I could go on? The same consumer that just wants a box also probably doesn't want to seat a CPU, deal with a screwdriver, connect a bunch of SATA cables, and ensure compatibility between all the components.
 

madjoki

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A couple of them are. Hell, one of them is cheaper than building the a PC Tower equivalent on Europe. (though the cooling may not be up to snuff, that remains to be seen)

No way they are going to sell in EU for same price. I doubt they will even sell to EU, but hardware could be US only.

I hope I'm wrong, so I can use my wallet on steam controller.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
How is Steam Link going to really differ from their in-home streaming option? I can already hook my laptop up to my TV and play through that (although I haven't really tried it very heavily).

You don't need to hook your laptop up to your TV, boom. That's how it differs.
 

zkylon

zkylewd
And lose the wonderful Steam sales? Makes no sense. And the steam controller is designed from the ground up to play mouse games.
to me the way i see it is this:

case 1 - you have a gaming computer but you don't have a console: you could buy this, or buy the cheaper consoles that have exclusive games

case 2 - you have a console but you don't have a gaming computer: you might want to buy this, but you're not looking for a living room solution so you could just as well buy a regular computer that comes with windows and can play all the games you want

Nope! Just an extension of the laziness thing. I could go on? The same consumer that just wants a box also probably doesn't want to seat a CPU, deal with a screwdriver, connect a bunch of SATA cables, and ensure compatibility between all the components.
joe the stupid and lazy plumber can't buy a prebuilt pc at any random store but knows what steam is?
 

jediyoshi

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you have a console but you don't have a gaming computer: you might want to buy this, but you're not looking for a living room solution so you could just as well buy a regular computer that comes with windows and can play all the games you want

If you don't have a gaming computer, then you don't have a computer, so you're probably facing a much larger problem.

joe the stupid and lazy plumber can't buy a prebuilt pc at any random store but knows what steam is?

I don't see why you're bullying Joe. They probably know what a PC is. They probably know what gaming is. There's probably an overlap somewhere there.
 
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MUnited83

For you.
to me the way i see it is this:

case 1 - you have a gaming computer but you don't have a console: you could buy this, or buy the cheaper consoles that have exclusive games

case 2 - you have a console but you don't have a gaming computer: you might want to buy this, but you're not looking for a living room solution so you could just as well buy a regular computer that comes with windows and can play all the games you want

case 3 - you have a console but you don't have a gaming computer: you might want to buy this if you're looking for a living room solution.

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joe the stupid and lazy plumber can't buy a prebuilt pc at any random store but knows what steam is?

Who says Joe wants a tower? Maybe he wants a small box to put next to his TV.
 

zkylon

zkylewd
If you don't have a gaming computer, then you don't have a computer, so you're probably facing a much larger problem.
? you could have a mac or a laptop or whatever

I don't see why you're bullying Joe. They probably know what a PC is. They probably know what gaming is. There's probably an overlap somewhere there.
well you established joe didn't have what it takes to install windows so i just took it from there

case 3 - you have a console but you don't have a gaming computer: you might want to buy this if you're looking for a living room solution.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
uhh, your living room solution is your console dude
 

InfiniteNine

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case 3 - you have a console but you don't have a gaming computer: you might want to buy this if you're looking for a living room solution.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well in my case I want it for when I'm away from home. I can't play a good portion of my steam library on the laptop so a tiny box to bring with me to plug into a TV would be great.
 

Arthea

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? you could have a mac or a laptop or whatever

why you so rude, suddenly?

edited: also guys, guys! This will be US only, all hardware, there is some stupid law in US, no electronics are sold or made available to other continents, don't you know?

sorry, I just had to (><)
 
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