Basileus777
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I'll blame the Rorona 3DS disaster.
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I'll blame the Rorona 3DS disaster.
Mobile will claim another victim.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Damn, I kinda dropped from the Atelier hypetrain for years but I'm finally back on it after Escha/Shallie, a PS4 Atelier would be more than enough for me to get a PS4. Same graphics we have right now but 1080p/60fps would be amazing.
I do wonder why the hell they are doing Rorona for the third time, I'd love a Totori remake instead.
Maybe they needed extra time to tighten up their PS4 development, so announcing it now would be too early
they have Atelier Quest Board, they're not doing any other mobile stuff
This seems like a likely reason. Maybe their merging with KT is bringing about some delays too. I'm really interested in seeing what happens.
Either way, we should be seeing Akira Tsuchiya's new game soon anyway, so there's not really anything to worry about when it comes to Gust.
It would be nice to get one more Atelier game on PS3, but it seems that won't happen? a pity really
Gust should just move to PC, no generations to take into consideration and all games are accessible at all times, wouldn't that be nice to have? I assume we won't be having emu of PS starting from 3 anymore and BC being not a thing in modern times... that means games die together with console. I'm not fond of this, tbh. I actually still replay even older games from time to time, like Eternal Mana for example.
why is it a disaster exactly?
Gust should just move to PC, no generations to take into consideration and all games are accessible at all times, wouldn't that be nice to have? I assume we won't be having emu of PS starting from 3 anymore and BC being not a thing in modern times... that means games die together with console. I'm not fond of this, tbh. I actually still replay even older games from time to time, like Eternal Mana for example.
why is it a disaster exactly?
Agreeing with porting to PC, but moving to PC means they sell approximately 23 copies in Japan.
oh ya, I keep forgetting that
Well porting is probably too much work for them, their team is still small, I reckon, they could find third parties to handle it, probably.
Basileus777
Member
All the delays for one thing.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I wonder why they are even making Rorona 3D, the fanbase has already had the chance to play it TWICE, and we know the fans aren't on 3DS. I would play it again but the game does not look promising from the trailers we've seen.
So why?
So why?
I'd be so excited if it was Totori 3D.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Go away
no
i don't know about you, but when i was playing rorona i always thought "this is fun, but if only the game was uglier and on awful hardware" and now my prayers have been answered
Maybe some people actually have a chibi fetish, rather than settling for chibi character models because the hardware can't push the polygons. I won't judge
openly
I would not complain if Gust went to PC. They'll never port their games to other consoles and Rorona 3DS is gonna be a one-time thing so uhh yeah PC pls
christ dudes there's no way the 3DS can't run vanilla Rorona's models. has to be a design choice. like the other 1668629 games on the system that uses chibi shit. all Japan's fault
christ dudes there's no way the 3DS can't run vanilla Rorona's models. has to be a design choice. like the other 1668629 games on the system that uses chibi shit. all Japan's fault
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'd love Gust on PC, but come on they'd never go exclusive on PC.
Hopefully they start to notice Steam, just like Idea Factory did.
Atelier not running like shit sounds too amazing to be true.
Hopefully they start to notice Steam, just like Idea Factory did.
Atelier not running like shit sounds too amazing to be true.
yeah, no need for them to go exclusive on PC, but they could port some games and they would sell on steam. If it works for IF and Falcom and SE, I don't see why wouldn't it work for Gust. More money, larger fanbase and all that. I would double dip for one, surely, on all their games if ports are even half good. Especially feel it playing PS3 Ateliers, all run badly, to put it mildly.
Eudaemonium
Member
I might be late to the party on this, but I just snagged Ayesha+ on the EU PSN for £17.99 (with PS+). Seems to be going on sale this week.
Ok, I just started playing Rorona+ yesterday. My first Atelier game ! And...
... I don't know what the fuck I'm doing ( 'T_T)
Basically I think I understand globally everything, and above all that the game is a cutthroat bitch with the day system, except for the core : Alchemy. I played the tutorial, I read the in-game help, but nooope.
The main thing I didn't understand is that we seem to be able to make a recipe with any ingredient ? What ? I mean, you select the recipe, then the number of items to craft, then you select the icon representing the ingredient and finally... the game open the inventory and you can use anything. Whut ? Can somebody explain this point to me, I have a feeling I'm missing some big element here.
... I don't know what the fuck I'm doing ( 'T_T)
Basically I think I understand globally everything, and above all that the game is a cutthroat bitch with the day system, except for the core : Alchemy. I played the tutorial, I read the in-game help, but nooope.
The main thing I didn't understand is that we seem to be able to make a recipe with any ingredient ? What ? I mean, you select the recipe, then the number of items to craft, then you select the icon representing the ingredient and finally... the game open the inventory and you can use anything. Whut ? Can somebody explain this point to me, I have a feeling I'm missing some big element here.
Ingredients have types, usually the same type ingredient for example plant can be substituted by better plant or worse plant for different end results. Sometimes you need to add particular ingredient (no choice), sometimes type of ingredient (choices for that type). Some categories are vast as Atlantic ocean, some has only couple ingredients in it or even one, especially at the start of the game.
Just stick with it, you'll get a hang of it after some time. It's basically only endgame where alchemy gets complex if you go into perfecting things field. It's not that complicated until then.
don't really care what anyone says lol. I'm there day one
it's a shame that this came out way too late. these Atelier ports should have been coming the year or two after the 3DS launched. not when it's nearing the end of its lifespan (like a year left) in Japan and elsewhere
yeah sure that Atelier DS didn't do too hot tho
it's a shame that this came out way too late. these Atelier ports should have been coming the year or two after the 3DS launched. not when it's nearing the end of its lifespan (like a year left) in Japan and elsewhere
yeah sure that Atelier DS didn't do too hot tho
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Yeah, they are really late to the party with this game and it's not going to sell well, Rorona + bombed IIRC and I don't see why the hell they are doing this at all.
You don't "remake" the same game three freaking times in the same gen and this could also be seen as a downgrade.
A Huge Battleship
Member
Completely forgot there was a community thread. Reposting a Merurururu (original version) query:
if I'm not confusing with any other Arland game, dlc dungeon is particularly nasty, even regular fights are on level of their own, I think it was in Meruru... probably, the nastiest dlc dungeon.
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
yeah you're right, 4th boss of Endless Corridor is the strongest boss outside of Makina Domain in Meruru
weren't two dlc dungeons in Meruru?
wasn't the first DLC some place with a single cow and no monsters?
edit: woops that's Ayesha. There's only one DLC dungeon in Meruru.
A Huge Battleship
Member
Thanks. I figured it was either her or Masked G. Bit of a shame really, since it doesn't look like I'll have to do much in the way of synthesis to beat her.
Yeah, I've heard that Makina Domain's supposed to be pretty rough. Unfortunately I haven't got the time to play an NG+ to get access to it.
I finished Atelier Totori Plus almost a year after I got it for the Vita! I had tried it previously, but it felt too aimless and the characters didn't seem interesting. I picked up Atelier Rorona Plus earlier this year, and really enjoyed that game from beginning to end. It definitely made going through Totori more meaningful.
Two Atelier games in a row is exhausting, though. I'm taking a break before moving onto Meruru Plus. I ended up fast forwarding to get a character ending of Totori after beating one of the major bosses, since the structure wasn't as gripping as Rorona Plus was.
Two Atelier games in a row is exhausting, though. I'm taking a break before moving onto Meruru Plus. I ended up fast forwarding to get a character ending of Totori after beating one of the major bosses, since the structure wasn't as gripping as Rorona Plus was.
Makina Domain is in both Meruru and New Rorona(/Rorona Plus) and are similar level (but slightly different type) of nasty. Their synthesis systems are very similar too.
I'd say New Rorona's is harder just from the sole fact cheese like Gio infinite loop doesn't exist there.
I'd say New Rorona's is harder just from the sole fact cheese like Gio infinite loop doesn't exist there.
Ok guys, so I just discovered the series and I'm loving it (well, and hating it in some aspects but it's still a new favorite series for me).
My question is, should I go the PS3 route for Meruru and Totori ? Are these versions technically good ? Because as much as Rorona + is a fantastical game, let's be honest, the vita version is shitocalypse.
My question is, should I go the PS3 route for Meruru and Totori ? Are these versions technically good ? Because as much as Rorona + is a fantastical game, let's be honest, the vita version is shitocalypse.
Rorona + PS3 supposed to be good, as original Rorona runs atrociously and even freezes your PS3 every couple of hours. As for Totori and Meruru, none of those run satisfactory, but are playable.
Actually only technically sound (more or less) Atelier game last gen was Atelier Annie on DS (><)
I wish I was kidding, I'm not
Oh I totally get that, believe me. But yeah, I'm trying to understand on which platform I will have the best time.
So you are telling me that I can play Meruru + and Totori + on the Vita ?
And the new trilogy ? Vita or PS3 ?
Atelier+, Totori+, Meruru+, and Ayesha+ are all out so far for Vita. We'll eventually get E&L+ and Shallie+ in the next couple of years.
PS3 has Atelier+, Totori, Meruru, Ayesha, Escha & Logy, and Shallie.
Dusk PS3 trilogy runs a little better then Arland trilogy, at least as far as freezings go I haven't any in Escha and Logy, and in Shallie after the patch.
I can't say about Vita versions, as I haven't played them, but somebody else will answer that, I'm sure.
that's not what he's asking though, he asks how they run on PS3 and Vita.
Well, he asked about the new trilogy on the Vita, when there's only one game available to us so far.
I know that, I'm simply asking which version of each game is the best to play in your opinion.
Totori PS3 or Totori + Vita ?
Meruru PS3 or Meruru + Vita ?
Ayesha PS3 or Ayesha + Vita ?
Basically I wonder on which platform I will have the best experience. Do the + versions add something to the games ?
Because Rorona +, as great as it is, is also a slide show.
Interesting point that I hadn't thought of. It is true that while technically horrible, Rorona + is also a pleasure to play on handheld.