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[Laughing Banana]

Hahah.

Since I don't care about Metal Gear and Konami would only resurrect Suikoden when hell freezes over, I am over and done with this company.

 

[Ateron]

This is bullshit. I don't even know what the hell are they thinking over at konami. You want out of the gaming industry, even though Pro Evo and MGS still bring in a lot of money? Fine, just do the right thing and sell the IPs. I'm sure more than a few publishers would love to get their hands on them, SH included. They would at least do something with them, instead of letting them wither and die, like SH has been for so many years. It's a damn shame really.

Kojima/Konami fallout must have been rather serious for them to just scrap this. I mean, PT had an overwhelming positive feedback, it had 3 important guys on board, it would revitalize a semi-dead franchise most surely and they scrap it over some beef with Kojima.

Now I'm a bit worried about TPP. The game is too far off in development to be cancelled, and I think not even Konami would be dumb enough to do so, but what will it imply for the game's content? Come Sep 1st, will we have a rushed product on our hands? Will it be censored in any shape or form? Even if it is, we'll never actually know, unless someone on the inside spills the beans on what might have been added/removed/replaced. That's what bothers me. That and the fact that I had a feeling that this collab would have made for a stellar comeback for SH, on the same caliber RE4 had back in the day.

This is just wrong. Unfortunately just will just sit their asses on the great IPs they still have and do jack shit with them. Konami cares for cash, like every other company right? Then just sell the IPs. It's better than to just let them die slowly.

And I'm sure this has been said before, but one more is never enough: konami, go fornicate yourself.

 

[keisuke999]

Seriously, what happened to Konami? They have some of the best IP around... why ruin it all like this?

 

[NESpowerhouse]

Maybe this is all just an extremely elaborate ruse by Kojima to increase hype for the game by momentarily taking it away from us. After all, you don't know what you've got until it's gone.

 

[Barakov]

Seriously, what happened to Konami? They have some of the best IP around... why ruin it all like this?

The wrong people got into positions of power within the company. Financially, the company will be fine but as far as games goes, I'm really not interested in what they're doing.

 

[SOLDIER]

There was a thread made earlier about people suggesting they bombard Konami with negative feedback before it got closed.

I was wondering about maybe we do a thread about the opposite approach: bombard Sony (a company who has at the very least responded to fan feedback of late) to restart the project as their own original horror game, with Kojima and company at the helm.

This is about the best outcome I could hope for, so why not rally together and let Sony know how much we want it?

 

[ZoltanXerxes]

There was a thread made earlier about people suggesting they bombard Konami with negative feedback before it got closed.

I was wondering about maybe we do a thread about the opposite approach: bombard Sony (a company who has at the very least responded to fan feedback of late) to restart the project as their own original horror game, with Kojima and company at the helm.

This is about the best outcome I could hope for, so why not rally together and let Sony know how much we want it?

I'm game.

 

[swazzyswess]

It's hilarious how Konami managed to waste one of the more brilliant marketing attempts in gaming.

I think Silent Hills had the best reveal in gaming history. Yet despite that, and ridiculous amounts of sudden goodwill and hype for a series that had been languishing for years, Konami runs it into the fucking ground. Incredible. I don't know that I've ever been more let down by a cancelled game.

 

[ZombieVito]

There was a thread made earlier about people suggesting they bombard Konami with negative feedback before it got closed.

I was wondering about maybe we do a thread about the opposite approach: bombard Sony (a company who has at the very least responded to fan feedback of late) to restart the project as their own original horror game, with Kojima and company at the helm.

This is about the best outcome I could hope for, so why not rally together and let Sony know how much we want it?

This is a great idea.

 

[Macnair]

Maybe Kojima will make 7780s studio real and create the PT full game. Sad week for a Silent Hill fan.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

There was a thread made earlier about people suggesting they bombard Konami with negative feedback before it got closed.

I was wondering about maybe we do a thread about the opposite approach: bombard Sony (a company who has at the very least responded to fan feedback of late) to restart the project as their own original horror game, with Kojima and company at the helm.

This is about the best outcome I could hope for, so why not rally together and let Sony know how much we want it?

Best thing to do. At least this way we have a chance at getting a horro game from Kojima. So what do we do?

 

[Garlador]

Maybe Kojima will make 7780s studio real and create the PT full game. Sad week for a Silent Hill fan.

Honestly, I hope he does. Pull a "Sleeping Dogs", rebrand the game with a new team, and go from there.

To pull a Tomm Hulett, I'm the biggest Silent Hill fan around, and I adored P.T., but the teaser itself was very unlike the majority of Silent Hill games we've had before (apart from brief sections of The Room).

Given the choice, how amazing would it be to have a whole game in the style of P.T., rather than adhere to the formula of Silent Hill by design? A first-person, no-combat puzzle exploration horror masterpiece.

Kojima's going to land on his feet just fine. Every company out there I bet has their checkbooks ready. The question of whether he'll salvage the project in a new form is what we're all interested in.

... Because we know Konami's not going to do anything meaningful with Silent Hill. The past DECADE has taught me that.

 

[frontovik]

That's unfortunate. The game appeared to be quite promising. Hopefully in the future, the rights to the SH franchise will be sold to a worthy publisher.

Ideally, I'd like to see it in the hands of the team of Frictional Games, the fine folks responsible for Penumbra and Amnesia.

 

[remz]

Maybe Kojima will make 7780s studio real and create the PT full game. Sad week for a Silent Hill fan.

Quiet Knoll maybe

 

[SOLDIER]

Best thing to do. At least this way we have a chance at getting a horro game from Kojima. So what do we do?

Make a catchy thread OP with the necessary contact links.

Unfortunately I don't have the skills that other GAF members do for that sort of thing, so hopefully someone will start it up so we can begin the rallying.

 

[specialK]

 

[BeforeU]

Kind of amazing in a way. This is the studio that brought us Contra, Metal Gear, Castlevania, Suikoden, Goemon, Silent Hill, Sparkster, Gradius, TMNT, and a whole slew of other classic games... and each and every last one of them is dead.

You can't even attribute this to mismanagement. This is deliberately, spitefully, not giving a shit any more.

This is incredibly sad.

 

[Donrule01]

The Konami I grew up with is gone. This new version I loathe.

 

[mave198]

So much potential........ Lost.

And for those saying Sony should pick up Kojima and Del Toro need to realize it will be absolutely nothing like Silent Hill and the slightest similarity will have Konami suing the shit outta Sony.

Not to mention it's the setting of Silent Hill that made this team up so intriguing, more so than the names themselves.

 

[Alex_Mexico]

Konami as a whole will do fine after MGSV. Gaming wise Pro Evo Soccer is healthy and sells millions every year. Aside from that I think it's a little worrying how little care Konami has of being internationally relevant. Everything else that has Konami healthy is stuff that's Japan only. Products and services that can be bought only in their home country. The one thing that made people outside Japan pronounce the Konami name was gaming and, besides PES, they're running it to the ground.

 

[njean777]

And everything will be rainbows and lolipops with Sony?

TBH it would probably go better than if he signed with MS.

 

[MikeHLS]

There was a thread made earlier about people suggesting they bombard Konami with negative feedback before it got closed.

I was wondering about maybe we do a thread about the opposite approach: bombard Sony (a company who has at the very least responded to fan feedback of late) to restart the project as their own original horror game, with Kojima and company at the helm.

This is about the best outcome I could hope for, so why not rally together and let Sony know how much we want it?

I'm in, let's get this organized.

 

[Alex_Mexico]

So much potential........ Lost.

And for those saying Sony should pick up Kojima and Del Toro need to realize it will be absolutely nothing like Silent Hill and the slightest similarity will have Konami suing the shit outta Sony.

Not to mention it's the setting of Silent Hill that made this team up so intriguing, more so than the names themselves.

That's not how copyright claims work. If stuff worked that way Capcom would've sued Inafune over Mighty No 9, SNK over King of Fighters, and Mikami over The Evil Within. Or Square would've sued the developers of every turn based jRPGs ever.

That's not how this works, man.

 

[Freshmaker]

TBH it would probably go better than if he signed with MS.

He'd make one game and then be funneled off into the darkness if he went that route. Might as well sign with EA.

 

[spazchicken]

The Konami I grew up with is gone. This new version I loathe.

Honestly, the only company that has remained close to what they were when I was growing up is Nintendo. Capcom, Konami, Square and Sega are all completely different companies from what they were 10 or 15 years ago.

 

[theofficefan99]

Makes me sad. Konami used to be a pretty excellent company.

 

[LifeLike]

I feel like this is the end for both parties. In theory, it should be a dater's market for Kojima, but in reality he'll probably sign with Microsoft and get stuck with some garbage project that will make us all groan.

Kojima should just take a year off.

The fate of destruction is also the joy of rebirth.

 

[MrCunningham]

-Konami backstabs Kojima after Metal Gear 1 by make the god-awful Snake's Revenge, he returns to direct Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake and rights the wrong.

I don't really know if Kojima was backstabed for this one. Snakes Revenge was developed for the western market only as a response to the popularity of the first game on NES. It was never released in Japan. Kojima had no involvement with the port of Metal Gear on the NES or the development of Snakes Revenge because he wasn't a part of the console division at Konami. He was doing a separate thing making games for Japanese home computers.

I did like Snakes Revenge more than the NES port of MG1. In all honesty, it was a pretty solid NES game (sorry, pun) with a great soundtrack.

But I can't debate any of the other points in your thread.

 

[lupinko]

That's not how copyright claims work. If stuff worked that way Capcom would've sued Inafune over Mighty No 9, SNK over King of Fighters, and Mikami over The Evil Within. Or Square would've sued the developers of every turn based jRPGs ever.

That's not how this works, man.

That's not how it works either, also KOF is nothing like SF, and Capcom did sue Data East over Fighters History.

If SCE wanted they could acquire it from Konami and rebrand the project like SE did with Sleeping Dogs when it bought True Crime HK from Actiblizz.

 

[mave198]

That's not how copyright claims work. If stuff worked that way Capcom would've sued Inafune over Mighty No 9, SNK over King of Fighters, and Mikami over The Evil Within. Or Square would've sued the developers of every turn based jRPGs ever.

That's not how this works, man.

Forgot about Fighters History?

So yeah it can work like that, man.

 

[Josh5890]

I'm bummed to hear that if it is true. It seems like the horror genre is making a comeback and losing this for the time being sucks.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Make a catchy thread OP with the necessary contact links.

Unfortunately I don't have the skills that other GAF members do for that sort of thing, so hopefully someone will start it up so we can begin the rallying.

I think people just need to tweet them. No need for campaign. Shenmue 3 is the most desired game according to Adam Boyes and Gio Corsi, and I don't think there was a campaign for that. Plus it would probably be locked.

 

[djblackice]

I fucking hate this industry sometimes.

 

[ShadowKingpin]

There was a thread made earlier about people suggesting they bombard Konami with negative feedback before it got closed.

I was wondering about maybe we do a thread about the opposite approach: bombard Sony (a company who has at the very least responded to fan feedback of late) to restart the project as their own original horror game, with Kojima and company at the helm.

This is about the best outcome I could hope for, so why not rally together and let Sony know how much we want it?

Count me in! How are you planning to organize this?

 

[akidnamededdy]

I hope Konami bails out of gaming completely, and then a year later there's a massive outbreak of ecoli or something in their health clubs and then one of their pachinko machines burns a casino down.

Holy shit dude.

I mean...with no casualties, of course. I JUST REALLY LIKE SILENT HILL YOU GUYS

 

[Overside]

I hope Konami bails out of gaming completely, and then a year later there's a massive outbreak of ecoli or something in their health clubs and then one of their pachinko machines burns a casino down.

Holy shit dude.

 

[Snaku]

I will never buy another Konami product. May Samael strike me with erectile dysfunction if I do.

 

[MMarston]

I will never buy another Konami product. May Samael strike me with erectile dysfunction if I do.

Snaku
Sperm Receptacle
(Today, 10:06 PM)

 

[Piggus]

lol Konami

Dumb motherfuckers. Reminds me of Sega in the mid to late 90s. Just utterly out of touch with reality.

 

[DXLelouch153]

He'd make one game and then be funneled off into the darkness if he went that route. Might as well sign with EA.

once again Cyclops is wrong
Kojima is friends with Yoshida
so no a chance of being funneled into the darkness

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Forgot about Fighters History?

So yeah it can work like that, man.

You claimed that any future (potential) games couldn't have even the slightest similarity to Silent Hills. That's incorrect. Iterative changes and copious "borrowing" of ideas is what advances the industry. Otherwise, our FPS library would be limited to Wolfenstein 3D and Doom, and puzzle games wouldn't have gone on past Tetris (yes, I'm sure there are even earlier examples of games in each of these genres, but that's beside the point I'm trying to make).

Also, you may want to read up on what happened with Capcom USA's Fighter's History case. Hint: They lost.

 

[DoomGyver]

I was really looking forward to a new silent hill starring Norman Reedus. fubar

 

[Megatron]

Without Kojima how good was this going to be? Probably a mercy killing, but I still would have liked to see it when the alternative is probably nothing.

 

[Akiyama_AE]

I was really looking forward to a new silent hill starring Norman Reedus. fubar

Yep Reedus deserves to be a in a game other than Survival Instinct

 

[foxtrot3d]

Without Kojima how good was this going to be? Probably a mercy killing, but I still would have liked to see it when the alternative is probably nothing.

Maybe now Kojima can make his own horror game with Del Toro starring Reedus.
Quiet Mountains.

 

[Unknown One]

Not sure if already posted.

 

[Monocle]

What a goddamned waste.

 

[Succinct Verbosity]

Is it weird to honestly want a company to go under? I have no good will towards konami whatsoever after this, and it's not like I had much before.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Maybe now Kojima can make his own horror game with Del Toro starring Reedus.
Quiet Mountains.

At The Mountains of Madness

 

[eFKac]

Lucky that Sony struck a deal on P.T, otherwise all we would have would be trailers, now it will never leave my heart, my nightmares and my harddrive.

RIP.