Otakumegane
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XenobladeX |Import OT| Discovery of Superb View: http://youtu.be/HgIXNOEv_40
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I'm still only level 15, but yeah, the aggro system doesn't make a ton of sense to me yet. I still haven't really looked into the soul voice stuff, so maybe there's some options to help generate hate in there? I don't know.
So far, I haven't really had to care about who is being targeted, but I have only been fighting mobs maybe 3 or 4 levels higher than me at most.
Hey Hasemo, was browsing through twitter and I found that you posted the same screens you posted here. This is actually excellent for showing off what twitter compression can do to to an image. Gonna use these as an example. Hope you don't mind.
Open up each of these in a new tab, zoom if you need to and switch between them to see the differences
1st shot
Twitter (compressed) 108.28 KB
Minus.com (much less compressed) 486.12 KB
2nd shot
Twitter (compressed) 142.41 KB
Minus.com (much less compressed) 454.28 KB
Open up each of these in a new tab, zoom if you need to and switch between them to see the differences
1st shot
Twitter (compressed) 108.28 KB
Minus.com (much less compressed) 486.12 KB
2nd shot
Twitter (compressed) 142.41 KB
Minus.com (much less compressed) 454.28 KB
The_Intruder
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Some screens from my friend
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The overworld is very nice looking. I've still been to only two environment types, so looking forward to seeing more.
The complete lack of anisotropic filtering is terribly disappointing in a game like this, though. Depending on how you position the camera, you have the ground textures looking like they're straight out of Monster Hunter 4.
The complete lack of anisotropic filtering is terribly disappointing in a game like this, though. Depending on how you position the camera, you have the ground textures looking like they're straight out of Monster Hunter 4.
You know, Im not very sensitive to jaggies, being ive been playing as long as i have, so aa isnt a huge deal to me, especially once i get 720p or higher.... The IQ is fine for me.
But Nintendos bizarre choice of also ignoring af does puzzle me. They have these beautifully drawn textures, even the ones that arent super high res, they are still well crafted, and then they just get chewed up at these oblique camera angles, to the point they no longer really even represent the texture anymore.
Just a little af would go so far. Its not like its a particularly expenisive thing to do requiring a large performance tradeoff either.
I really dont get why nintendo 1st party seems so intent on ignoring af, what are they using, trilinear? Even just 4x af would probably make a huge difference.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Stuff Im fighting is like lv 40+ so its pretty important that they are not attacking things at random, which still happens anyways. D:
TheMoon
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Awesome stuff.
For the future: make sure to just post links to pics from other zones that the first one.
Lord Azrael
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To be honest the difference wasn't even noticeable to me until I turned screen brightness to max and zoomed in...
theprodigy
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Hey can anyone check the updated numbers for the early boss that StreetsAhead showed earlier?
(this one: https://copy.com/thumbs_public/0kxqh1jnpzzeYgNO/XCX11.jpg?size=1024)
(this one: https://copy.com/thumbs_public/0kxqh1jnpzzeYgNO/XCX11.jpg?size=1024)
The_Intruder
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Oh sorry, I have edited my post, thanks for the information
SoraanTribal
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Probably answered already, but if you just leave your doll/skell out in the field somewhere and walk away, can you instantly call it to you to start driving? I assume you don't have to actually walk up to them to get in right?
My friend (being the "cool" guy he is) has a Japanese Wii U and a copy of the game. Got back from volunteering and he wouldn't let me play ;-;
Soul Voice seems like a worthy replacement to Visions, since it increases the feeling of involvement and camaraderie. Burst Affinity was nice because I was basically being "SICK BRO." But here it's like being "LET'S KEEP THE PACE UP." When I hear someone call out to me, I just get motivated. Want to see more, but I didn't sleep and went to my shift so it's time to crash.
Also, here's a clean version of Oblivia's day theme.
Soul Voice seems like a worthy replacement to Visions, since it increases the feeling of involvement and camaraderie. Burst Affinity was nice because I was basically being "SICK BRO." But here it's like being "LET'S KEEP THE PACE UP." When I hear someone call out to me, I just get motivated. Want to see more, but I didn't sleep and went to my shift so it's time to crash.
Also, here's a clean version of Oblivia's day theme.
SoraanTribal
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Fuck, I've gotta stop watching streams. It's making the wait so hard plus afraid of spoilers. D:
Alright here we go, she's ~70 hours sunk and finished with the story thanks to a Golden Week binge, I'll just copypasta her list.
Outline on pacing and flow:
- Game starts out slow with dumby quests but you free to go where you want, I did for about five hours. Then I died to a big monkeylizard in a lava pit.
- The first three chapters hold hands with the player to get you into the world and system. Like quest requiring exploration criteria, game makes sure you were outside and looking around.
- After chapter 4 the game really picks up. Quests get better but main story is the real star. No spoilers but later is even better!
- If you get stuck on hard boss. Hire online player with great gear to help.
- Get DOLL! Drive around, run over low level monsters, then fly!
- I like this story better than Xenoblade 1. Xenoblade 1 was very straightforward, this time more over the place and surprising at times. No Shulk sees future to spoil events of the future.
The Really Good:
- The world in a doll the first time you fly is jaw opening. FFXV won't have flying.
- Dolls
- Flying Dolls. Can we replace ugly characters with dolls? Next Xenoblade should be about just Dolls. In space.
- Flying
- Monster Hunter. Monster Hunter with giant robots.
- Exploration is great, world is huge and beautiful. (Some ugly graphical issues: no AF, lots of blurred textures even with install pack, pop in. Don't think even my PS4 could render this well, would render better but still. FFXV demo looked better at some things worse at others.)
- The game directs you to many interesting points but many others are very hidden and secret for you to discover.
- The story really picks up after chapter 4, like a good book that leads you into world and then speeds up. First few chapters are world build.
- Plenty to do after or along with the story.
The Good:
- I really like how you can hire other players to make cool team but also help if get stuck. World boss events and doll unlocks give everyone a goal but bosses are hard.
- Graphics are good.
- Most of the music.
- Most of the characters. They have some great quests to them, some characters are really great. Elma is great.
The Xenoblade:
- The combat. Its mostly the same + Dolls. Soul Voice replaces Visions for synergy and efficiency that you need to be good at for harder fights. Game is pretty easy early on but you have to get good at combat for later story bosses, have to be really good for hard world bosses. Soul Voice success helps for keeping enemies Hate-locked on a damage taker.
- Combat can feel airy but that's how it is in Xenoblade. Obviously not as good or physical as Blood or Bayonetta 2.
- Bathing suit/super robot/kamen rider cutscenes. Silly. Super serious cutscene = wearing shades and a bikini.
- Lots of dumb quests of kill monkeylizards or collect their tears but a lot more good quests than Xenoblade 1. Character quests are really well written but some characters are very dumb.
The Bad:
- Some of the music. NLA music is bad during day but I don't spend any time there.
- Some of the characters. Spoilers so won't say who.
- Graphics can be really bad at times if you care that much.
- Some long load times between a few cutscenes.
- Some text is teeny.
The ???????:
- Start is slow but only two hours or three long. Can probably really run through it now that I know how to speed up the chapters. Maybe even an hour on a new play.
- Doll is level blocked but by the time you get to dolls you should be only a level or two away.
- The music as a whole, hit or miss tracks.
- Silent protagonist "with choice". You have role but you never talk outside battle. But lots of cool development for "you" in story. Elma is big character though and she talks plenty.
- Heroic bravado. Clapping. Jean Claude Van Damme.
That all for now. Favorite game of the year but I only played Bloodborne and Kirby so far, best RPG in a time. Good luck FF, please be good.
foxuzamaki
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Thanks for this Vena, great impression, glad she had fun!
Otakumegane
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Did Vena's friend enjoy it more or less than Xenoblade 1?
I didn't enjoy anything as that wasn't my list.
So storywise it's closer to the earlier Xeno games' complicated, twisty plots? Really all I wanted to hear, XB's story was fun too and some of the twists were great, but it was a bit straightforward. I like convoluted stories.
Now I just gotta hope the WiiU somehow magically sells billions during summer so I can actually afford getting one when XBX comes out...
Now I just gotta hope the WiiU somehow magically sells billions during summer so I can actually afford getting one when XBX comes out...
Sounds great. Tell your friend thanks for the impressions. They are much appreciated.
The bit about there being a lot more good quests is great since they said that they really wanted to improve on that front in the Iwata Asks
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
You gonna need some reading glasses.
Wow, thanks for the vid. That fly-through of Oblivia in the video was great as well
I'm still only on chapter 4 but I pretty much agree with Vena's friend except for the part about it being better than Bloodborne (story is still yet to really pick up for me though so impressions may change). It's a great game but there are a lot of minor issues that will likely annoy western reviewers though. I predict a metacritic of 80-85.
80-85 would be low for this title given that most of the "wiggles" are pretty much identical to its lauded predecessor. And Xenoblade looked like sin, too.
Alright, I gotta put the blinders on. These screenshots are too god-damned beautiful. I know I'm going to buy the game on day one, I know I'm going to explore every single inch of it, so I'm going to wait till then. Don't want to spoil any more of the sights, given this is such an exploration-based game.
Ya'll importers should totally post some direct-feed screens in the official console screenshot thread, though. Cause I will peek at that.
Ya'll importers should totally post some direct-feed screens in the official console screenshot thread, though. Cause I will peek at that.
Valkyri von Thanatos
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Please let us know if the plot picks up for you as it did for her. The plot is still my single biggest interest, so it'd be great if there was consensus on it's improvement past Ch 4. Seems Kyoufu agrees on the game getting better after Ch 4:
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Huh? Only complaint I can see is character faces, the game is still barely matched by any other RPG for scale and awe in artistic world design.
Fair enough, maybe I'm low balling too much but it feels as though reviews have gotten a little tougher since when XC was released. It just feels to me that reviewers are always whining about wanting shorter, more action packed games with less chaff whereas in Xenoblade X it is very much not a pick up and play in short bursts type of game.
Personally I'd give it a 8.5 to a 9 from what I've seen but I get the feeling that a lot of other people won't see it that way.
The general consensus seems to be post-4 is when the game picks up its bags and hits you in the face with them. Keep us posted.
What you say on expectations is true but, then, this is a JRPG. They'd effectively be grading it negatively in this regard for its genre... Might as well have had a fan of carebear games review Bloodborne then.
Almost level 41 so I can begin on this kizuna quest which is required to start chapter 14.
Random picture from Sylvalum, the forth continent.
Level 50 Doll prices. My poor in-game wallet.
These two are totally random. I swear.
Can someone tell me if there really are only 5 continents? The game is supposed to be 5 times bigger than xenoblade but that would mean 1 continent = xenoblade size map, and those continenets don't look xenoblade big. please put in spolier text for those who don't want to know.
SoraanTribal
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I'm very much in a "oh this song isn't bad" to "oh dear god, why is this song in the game?!" in regard to the soundtrack. I doubt it will surpass Xenoblade's OST or get anywhere close (for me personally), but I'm not that worried.
What does this even means? O_O
From streams it really seems the maps are really big. Primordia seems to be bigger than Gaur Plains and Colony 9 combined O_O and that's not even counting the fact that you now can fly to the upper areas.
So that's HB?... I never noticed him when they were explaining Unions (unlike Yelouv, Boze and Axena who show up in Testament, Avalanche and Arms respectively).
Nice to know what to expect from him XD
Elfforkusu
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lmao
Xenoblade was about 80 square kilometers all areas combined, X has been confirmed to be 400 square kilometers.
That means, assuming for easy math sake, that each continent is roughly the same size, you can fit the entirety of xenoblade on each continent, without about 20 square miles left over on each continent.
And thats how big it looks, which is massive. What have you been looking at that made you feel it was smaller then the original game?
10 bucks says I found another saga fan who has no clue what actually happened in xenoblade.
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Macapala
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This post could contain a major story spoiler (I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking) so please don't click it if you haven't finished the story. For anyone who has though, it would be great if you could answer my question.
Edit: I got my answer so I have deleted the spoiler. Just be wary of Hours Left's post (post #1598) since he quoted my original post.
Edit: I got my answer so I have deleted the spoiler. Just be wary of Hours Left's post (post #1598) since he quoted my original post.
pinkurocket
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^there is a dedicated thread for story discussion with spoilers. Link in OP!!
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Macapala
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You want me to go into a spoiler thread? I'm trying to avoid spoilers, that's why I asked here.
If this is against the rules of the thread, I'll delete my post.
Hours Left
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Yes, she does.
pinkurocket
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Oohh sorry, I misunderstood what you were asking then. No problem.
Valkyri von Thanatos
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Spoilers for those who haven't played Xenoblade on Wii (and slight for other Xeno games):
I can see the game being a possible "Episode 0" in the Xeno timeline because of the whole "creating (or perhaps recreating) the universe thing", no real reason I can see for it not to be. Zohar could be a form of the Monado and Alvis could potentially have turned into the "Wave Existence".
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Macapala
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Contains story spoilers!!!
Damn... thanks for answering, though. Since I don't know why she has this or its purpose there is still a lot about the story I don't know, right? Am I correct to assume that this is a small part of a much bigger story?
Okay, thanks for you help.