curious too.
once official numbers come out you guys better make a new thread.
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Media Create Sales: Week 21, 2015 (May 18 - May 24)
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curious too.
once official numbers come out you guys better make a new thread.
test_account
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True, but i dont think that comment was referring to that. He/she mentioned that people are still trying to insist that Splatoon will underperform even when numbers have been posted. 200k-250k was also mentioned as a prediction, and that is way above what W101 sold. So i was just wondering because of that
That might be. Shooters are usually quite frontloaded, but i guess its anyone's guess how much leg Splatoon will have. Shall be very interesting to see
Unlike most pubs, Nintendo doesn't take returns, so retailers are conservative when it comes to orders, and doubly so with a new IP. So lack of supply is Nintendo's fault as they refuse to work with retailers to ensure proper supply.
I was replying Nintendo Land, but...NOPE! It sold 78k in its debut week.
So we have to go back to the Wii, with Wii Fit, I think.
02. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 261,226 / NEW
That might be. Shooters are usually quite frontloaded, but i guess its anyone's guess how much leg Splatoon will have. Shall be very interesting to see
Western games in general are front-loaded in Japan, as well, so singling out shooters in Japan as an example does no good, since there's few to none domestically made.
Nintendo games, as a general rule, always have at least a little bit of legs and take longer to drop on the charts than other games do, with Bayonetta and W101 being the most recent exceptions.
So now it's just a matter of wondering if we're talking baby squid tentacles or giant kraken ones.
That might be. Shooters are usually quite frontloaded, but i guess its anyone's guess how much leg Splatoon will have. Shall be very interesting to see
While shooters are generally frontloaded, I'd suggest that that's at least partially because they're generally a known quantity; word of mouth after launch isn't that likely to make non-purchasers reconsider.
I don't think that's necessarily the case with Splatoon; it's different enough that for many people it's not a known quantity, and I think the nature of the gameplay means it has a chance of making inroads with an audience that wouldn't necessarily gravitate to shooters. In other words, I think word of mouth has the potential to have more of an impact on Splatoon's sales than most. In both ways, mind you; while it's broadly positive right now, I think that detrimental word of mouth (if, perhaps, an exploit crops up halfway through the weekend) could cripple it.
Ah must have skimmed it.
Wii Fit is the only real thing that comes to mind but that's not even a character IP.
... Style Savvy?
EDIT: Drat, restricted to home consoles... jeez, that might end up being Wii Music then, if that counts.
thx. Lets hope at the end of the day, Splatoon sells 1/2 of Wii Fit. I'm only half joking, btw.
True, but i dont think that comment was referring to that. He/she mentioned that people are still trying to insist that Splatoon will underperform even when numbers have been posted. 200k-250k was also mentioned as a prediction, and that is way above what W101 sold. So i was just wondering because of that
Under/over performing is usually used wrt sales compared to marketing + production budgets. We will never have those last two numbers, so it's all just guessing but I'd be shocked if Iwata wasn't very pleased with these numbers.
SatoAilDarko
Member
The pessimist in me wants to tell you all to keep expectations in check.
Happy for them. Hopefully players are happy too. I'm still afraid people may get passed at the five maps at launch. I hope Nintendo gets the word out (possibly in game) about the additional maps being added in the immediate future.
Splatoon gives me the same feeling that Wonderful 101 did. A unique, colorful IP that has a sense of maturity. It's the type of game that has slowed to a trickle.
Also from the four testfire it's the first online game I seem to really enjoy playing.
Happy for them. Hopefully players are happy too. I'm still afraid people may get passed at the five maps at launch. I hope Nintendo gets the word out (possibly in game) about the additional maps being added in the immediate future.
Splatoon gives me the same feeling that Wonderful 101 did. A unique, colorful IP that has a sense of maturity. It's the type of game that has slowed to a trickle.
Also from the four testfire it's the first online game I seem to really enjoy playing.
He asked for "home" IPs, I think.
that's quite...hard/impossible?
Wii Fit [Wii] LTD 3,561,787
That would mean sell something like 1.25 millions in Japan.
And if we extend the number WW....well, it would be even moer impossible, looking at the huge Fit numbers!
Wii Music did 92k in it's first week I think, so not as good as Wii Fit.
Got a question... Does the "150k" from the blog includes the shipment retailers got yesterday?
Honestly, I don't think the shortages are super grave or anything (not like it could've sold 500k FW or anything). But still, it's good to see there's some enthusiasm for the game in Japan.
Honestly, I don't think the shortages are super grave or anything (not like it could've sold 500k FW or anything). But still, it's good to see there's some enthusiasm for the game in Japan.
agreed. The big thing Splatoon has going for it is that it was designed for a Japanese mindset. Western shooters are very alienating for many people, and it seems this one offers a real alternative.
Damn, I already regret may wii u sale.
test_account
XP-39C²
Western games in general are front-loaded in Japan, as well, so singling out shooters in Japan as an example does no good.
Nintendo games, as a general rule, always have at least a little bit of legs and take longer to drop on the charts than other games do, with Bayonetta and W101 being the most recent exceptions.
So now it's just a matter of wondering if we're talking baby squid tentacles or giant kraken ones.
I agree. I dont think that it being western developed games matters that much in this case, but rather the genre itself. Since Splatoon isnt the "average" shooter though, as you mention, that is why i think its anyone's guess how much it will sell in the long run
test_account
XP-39C²
True. I was just wondering since i dont feel that 200k-250k is necesarily underperforming. I guess it depends on what number people are referring to when saying things like "fantastic".
OMG you are right!!!
Media-Create: The Last Story [Wii]: 114,722
You win, sir.
And we all know that no TLS2 was announced...SO SAAAAAAAAAD right now.
With a >150k opening for a new Nintendo IP with mainstream appeal, 50% first week/LTD ratio will be the absolute worst scenario.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
COD BO2 - 540k
fredrancour
Member
This sentence made my brain spin because it is still so bizarre that LM2 can actually be described as a hit. I really really thought that this would be one of the installments in the realm of "Nintendo games I love to death that the world doesn't give a damn about" alongside the corpses of EBA and excite truck.
Instead, it's a multi-million seller and I haven't actually played it yet.
Afaik there's no return policy at all in Japan. What is shipped to retailers is effectively sold for the publisher and if a game is massively overshipped, retailers are on their own.
The 150k shipment is supposed to be first day shipment, that means thursday 28th.
I already said that Yodobashi stores got a new shipment today friday, if we go by its website.
Also I've just been in Shinjuku and Ikebukuro Bic Camera and they have the game fully available Friday 29th 20:00 p.m. Japanese time. Since is still available I'm gonna assume they got a new shipment too.
I'm not seeing hard stock problems yet (Just in Yamada Denki).
Thanks for the answer, I get it now. As I suspected, it looks like shortages aren't that bad (yet?), which makes you wonder why Nintendo even apologised in the first place. Then again, since the next shipment won't be out until next week, I guess copies will become scarce during the week-end.
What do you mean, TLS2 has been out for a month?
I already finished it over 10 times!
What do you mean, TLS2 has been out for a month?
Hahaha, you are evil people.
theprodigy
Member
Tomodachi Life? (in the west)
Kresnik258
Member
Safe to say Nintendo finally got itself a new addition to the family
IA/VT was delayed one month. Shocking, I know.
http://gematsu.com/2015/05/iavt-colorful-delayed-one-month-japan
On this note, I'm kind of surprised they didn't do any cross promotions.
Releasing an Inkling for free into Mario Kart (relatively little work) or selling a DLC Inkling in Smash (more work, so $$$ makes sense) - perhaps even giving it for free by pre-ordering Splatoon - seems like a missed opportunity.
http://gematsu.com/2015/05/iavt-colorful-delayed-one-month-japan
On this note, I'm kind of surprised they didn't do any cross promotions.
Releasing an Inkling for free into Mario Kart (relatively little work) or selling a DLC Inkling in Smash (more work, so $$$ makes sense) - perhaps even giving it for free by pre-ordering Splatoon - seems like a missed opportunity.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I could also see them doing one of those tie-ins in conjunction with one of the announced Splatoon DLC releases, which could help give the title some legs.
YSO predictions were < 150K
LordOcidax
Member
Wow, i expected sub 100k for Splatoon first week, and Gaf are talking about 200k and sold out first week, thats Insane. This game could be the biggest surprise for the Wii U, nothing is even close if is truth.
maybe they are seeing the other way around.
Develope, promote and sell Splatoon.
After that, release a DLC costume (unlocked by the Inkling amiibo) in MK8 and release a DLC Ink-ling character in Smash.
Doing this they could generate revenue with amiibos and DLC in both popular games (so a big install base), with small expenses.
The other way around, you were promoting through a huge install base (those two games) a still "expensive" new game.
I think Inklings are probably a shoe-in for Smash at some point, now, but I'm not sure we'd see them as DLC for the current version, simply because I think you'd really want to capture the 'inking the floor for mobility' mechanic in their gameplay and I think that's something that might have to be implemented at a fairly low-level.
If I recall the table of predictions, didn't everyone expect sub-100k? I thought the highest predictions were for something like 65k?
Pikmin 3 debuted with 92k
DKTF debuted with 35k
I was looking for something in the middle, so I'm pleasantly surprised.
SuperLeviathan
Member
I still say we're going to see this closer to the holidays. Zelda leaves a gaping huge void, so it will be up to Smash and Splatoon to kind of pick up the slack.
While not pictured (this chart lags behind a day, so it only peaks at #5), Granblue Fantasy just got to #3.
I thought this was an interesting example since the game has been slowly growing for over a year.
honest question, but are we going to get weekly japanese app threads? i don't want to step on toes here but it seems like it's out of place in the
BlueSilver
Member
Maybe I missed it, but does anyone know how Splatoon is affecting Wii U sales?