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Final Fantasy 7 Remake Announced (First on PS4)

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It kind of makes sense for the lack of blood on the Aeris scene considering she basically got poltergeist'd
Would they be able to get away with the Shinra massacre and Nibelheim under a T rating today? I'm genuinely unsure and leaning towards no. That's really my main concern.
I mean, we don't directly see Sephirot killing people, it's just a bunch of slashed walls with blood in them so maybe?
 

Arkeband

Banned
Improving the graphics is sufficient.

Why would Square settle for sufficient, though? There's an opportunity, a budget, a desire from the company, and guaranteed sales to take a modern approach to this game from a storytelling, world-building, and lore standpoint. More depth everywhere. More to explore, more to see, more to acquire, more to learn. More.

They're not going to remake FF7 twice.

Square is going to shoot for the fucking moon with this opportunity to blow out FF7, and if they don't make it there, they land on a Cloud. And we'll all be supremely happy for it.

Well that's good, because they aren't, they're porting it once and they're remaking it once. Porting it is all of the hassle of putting a ROM everyone's been using since Bleem! on a distribution platform.

Oh, and the 'make all the numbers 999' cheat codes they threw into the Steam version.

Well, as a fan, it isn't enough.

Not at all.

After 20 years, I better be getting something more than just better graphics. I can get that on the PC version.

Yeah, sure buddy. Let's see what those modders are up to:

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Yeah I could totally see that being on the PS4, using FF15's engine. /s
 

Two Words

Member
Who knows.

The ESRB then could be wholly different from the ESRB of today.

Either way, I'm expecting the game to aim for Rated Teen, which means concessions will be made to be rated T.

But, if you told me the Original shouldve been a M Rated game just for mentioning Don Corneo's whorehouse and the Honey Bee Inn, I'd believe it.

I think rated T games get away with more today than before.
 

enigmatic_alex44

Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Watch them switch things up and Tifa dies in place of Aeris. I'd be ok with that actually as I always wanted Cloud to end up with feisty Aeris instead of that basic flop Tifa.

Aeris >>>> Tifa
 

Turin

Banned
I think most us would love an M rating but I don't expect it.

But hey, I never thought we'd get an M rated Batman game so you never know. lol

This was such a goofy moment.

This game is so unpredictable tonally and easily the most complex FF in this regard.

Hope they can recapture that weirdness once again even through brand new scenes!

Yeah. I'd almost describe VII as being kind of jazzy in that regard.

Strange world with strange people.
 

Goddard

Member
Watch them switch things up and Tifa dies in place of Aeris. I'd be ok with that actually as I always wanted Cloud to end up with feisty Aeris instead of that basic flop Tifa.

Aeris >>>> Tifa

As someone who was 7 when they first played FFVII, I didn't even mind when Aeris died, I was always into Tifa. Because bewbs basically.
 

enigmatic_alex44

Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
As someone who was 7 when they first played FFVII, I didn't even mind when Aeris died, I was always into Tifa. Because bewbs basically.

I mean... I understand that.

But Aeris is just a better character imo. She's prettier, she's got a more feisty personality, she's strong and independent, selling her flowers on the road just to make a buck. SHE initiates the flirting with Cloud instead of sitting back. The girl also has the nerve to combine red and pink and makes it WORK!

Plus Aeris' limit breaks are more useful....if you waste your time leveling her up before she meets her cruel fate :(
 

Audette

Member
I have already expressed my opinion saying that I'm on team ATB. I still think it's a good idea for people to present their opinions right? I actually enjoy taken to show off the art style and assets. Classic ATB gave time to relish in those effects. I distinctly remember being disappointed when FFXIIs brisk pace had slightly shortened the spell animations (summons were still neat in that one as their final attacks were cool)

Anyways moving on I also agree with everybody who wants to see the Character shots and promotional artworks remade. In a perfect world I would love to see micro updates on this game. Where they show us these remade artworks and remade assets, or new assets and design choices. Sort of like the smashbro brawl updates or the fighting game roster teases?

A remake of this game is pretty close to being unprecedented. So much love for the title and time since the release, so much scope and breadth to the project and design decisions. I feel they have a serious media opportunity to promote the title and show their design choices at the same time.
They don't need to water it down by appealing to anybody specific, it's thier title they can do what the feel needs to be done with it. I just wish they justify it and show up the behind the scenes, the think box, the art work and keep us aware of what to look forward to.
 

Ikael

Member
Watch them switch things up and Tifa dies in place of Aeris. I'd be ok with that actually as I always wanted Cloud to end up with feisty Aeris instead of that basic flop Tifa.

Aeris >>>> Tifa

Nevar! Tifa is the greatest female character along with Celes and Freya. As for Aerith, she was booooring and Mary-Sueish as hell, hence the writter's wisdom in deciding to kill her off.
 
I mean... I understand that.

But Aeris is just a better character imo. She's prettier, she's got a more feisty personality, she's strong and independent, selling her flowers on the road just to make a buck. SHE initiates the flirting with Cloud instead of sitting back. The girl also has the nerve to combine red and pink and makes it WORK!

Plus Aeris' limit breaks are more useful....if you waste your time leveling her up before she meets her cruel fate :(

Tifa gets Cloud to snap out of it when he's a vegetable. Both women are strong in their own way.
 

Turin

Banned
Twist: Cloud loved Cloud and only Cloud.

Really though, a romance couldn't properly develop in the story with the way he was. That probably would have happened after AC's events(assuming that's still canon).

I really want them to give us a better look at Tifa and Aerith in other ways unrelated to that part of the story.
 
I'll just hold on to this quotes from Kitase, he really cares about this game and it gives me hope:

"Even if I casually say I would like to do that, because it would be a huge project I would have to motivate myself to the level that I really am prepared to take on this huge responsibility,"

"But should I ever take it on, it would have to be the biggest project I've done. My life work. So I would have to be as highly motivated as that to end up with something I'm very happy with. It's a huge thing for me."
 
Twist: Cloud loved Cloud and only Cloud.

Really though, a romance couldn't properly develop in the story with the way he was. That probably would have happened after AC's events(assuming that's still canon).

I really want them to give us a better look at Tifa and Aerith in other ways unrelated to that part of the story.

I want more Tirith to expand on their relationship as friends.
 
I mean... I understand that.

But Aeris is just a better character imo. She's prettier, she's got a more feisty personality, she's strong and independent, selling her flowers on the road just to make a buck. SHE initiates the flirting with Cloud instead of sitting back. The girl also has the nerve to combine red and pink and makes it WORK!

Plus Aeris' limit breaks are more useful....if you waste your time leveling her up before she meets her cruel fate :(
Tifa protects Cloud's sanity through the entire game by playing along with his SOLDIER bullshit and not contradicting him when he was telling the Nibelheim story, not to mention bringing him back from a catatonic state - which she stopped trying to save the world to take care of him by the way. While Aeris is selling flowers Tifa is busy trying to save the damn planet from Mako abuse. Tifa doesn't need to be flirty because shit is so strong it can be just implied and people will ship it while Aeris only really cares about Cloud because he kinda reminds her of Zack.

Also boobs.

And Tifa has the 4th best limit break in the game
 
I mean... I understand that.

But Aeris is just a better character imo. She's prettier, she's got a more feisty personality, she's strong and independent, selling her flowers on the road just to make a buck. SHE initiates the flirting with Cloud instead of sitting back. The girl also has the nerve to combine red and pink and makes it WORK!

Plus Aeris' limit breaks are more useful....if you waste your time leveling her up before she meets her cruel fate :(
tifa has one of the best LBs in the game

Tifa saves Cloud from himself, she stays by him while hes wheelchair bound and braindead, and stands by him to march into the northern crater, the rest of the cast leaves then decides to come back, Tifa is ready to march into hell immediately
 
tifa has one of the best LBs in the game

Tifa saves Cloud from himself, she stays by him while hes wheelchair bound and braindead, and stands by him to march into the northern crater, the rest of the cast leaves then decides to come back, Tifa is ready to march into hell immediately

YESSS preach. Tifa stood by him no matter what and refused to give up on him.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I mean... I understand that.

But Aeris is just a better character imo. She's prettier, she's got a more feisty personality, she's strong and independent, selling her flowers on the road just to make a buck. SHE initiates the flirting with Cloud instead of sitting back. The girl also has the nerve to combine red and pink and makes it WORK!

Plus Aeris' limit breaks are more useful....if you waste your time leveling her up before she meets her cruel fate :(

Tifa is the better character in my opinion. She's stronger mentally, much more rounded in regards to what she wants to protect, her life decisions and her actual competency.

The only thing she's not good at, is knowing how to make choices easily, and it bites her in the ass in multiple parts of the game.

I don't have an issue with Aerith, but i would disagree that she was the better character.
 

Shadow780

Member
YESSS preach. Tifa stood by him no matter what and refused to give up on him.

tifa has one of the best LBs in the game

Tifa saves Cloud from himself, she stays by him while hes wheelchair bound and braindead, and stands by him to march into the northern crater, the rest of the cast leaves then decides to come back, Tifa is ready to march into hell immediately

Tifa protects Cloud's sanity through the entire game by playing along with his SOLDIER bullshit and not contradicting him when he was telling the Nibelheim story, not to mention bringing him back from a catatonic state - which she stopped trying to save the world to take care of him by the way. While Aeris is selling flowers Tifa is busy trying to save the damn planet from Mako abuse. Tifa doesn't need to be flirty because shit is so strong it can be just implied and people will ship it while Aeris only really cares about Cloud because he kinda reminds her of Zack.

Also boobs.

And Tifa has the 4th best limit break in the game

Nevar! Tifa is the greatest female character along with Celes and Freya. As for Aerith, she was booooring and Mary-Sueish as hell, hence the writter's wisdom in deciding to kill her off.

We can bestest friends.
 

Audette

Member
Plus Aeris' limit breaks are more useful....if you waste your time leveling her up before she meets her cruel fate :(

To me is all about pure damage output. Anybody can heal, status ailments can easily be addressed/caused. Any chance to do more damage makes a character more useful, like the multiple slot techniques. That's why my final party is always made of Cloud Tifa Cid Berret Or Vincent, multiple hit limit breaks. Never had a moment of a last minute save using Aeris' limit breaks.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
I'll just hold on to this quotes from Kitase, he really cares about this game and it gives me hope:

"Even if I casually say I would like to do that, because it would be a huge project I would have to motivate myself to the level that I really am prepared to take on this huge responsibility,"

"But should I ever take it on, it would have to be the biggest project I've done. My life work. So I would have to be as highly motivated as that to end up with something I'm very happy with. It's a huge thing for me."

While I may talk out loud for my hopes and wishes for the game, I have full trust this man cares about the project and will make it the best he possibly can. Will I love it? Who knows, but I hope he follows his own instinct and blocks out all the fans input.
 

HMD

Member
I still want them to cancel the PS4 exclusivity deal and release it on all systems simultaneously, I want the game to revive the dying JRPG genre, and exclusivity isn't gonna help.
 

Sami+

Member
Tifa protects Cloud's sanity through the entire game by playing along with his SOLDIER bullshit and not contradicting him when he was telling the Nibelheim story, not to mention bringing him back from a catatonic state - which she stopped trying to save the world to take care of him by the way. While Aeris is selling flowers Tifa is busy trying to save the damn planet from Mako abuse. Tifa doesn't need to be flirty because shit is so strong it can be just implied and people will ship it while Aeris only really cares about Cloud because he kinda reminds her of Zack.

Also boobs.

And Tifa has the 4th best limit break in the game

Aeris is cool but yeah I gotta say I really like Tifa.

Besides is no one else gonna give her swag points for being a martial artist? Like lets be real here CQC is a hell of a lot cooler to see than waving a staff for healing and shit
 
We can bestest friends.

Tifa defense force assemble!

In all seriousness I feel she is slightly underrated compared to Aerith in different ways.
One being a love interest and relevance in terms of a female hero compared to Aerith.

She didn't have Holy sure but she had brute strength. This is a woman who can throw boulders and hold her own like the rest of the guys. She also is a big part in why the world was saved she got Cloud to snap out of it and was ready to go into combat and face Sephiroth even if it meant her life.
 

Goddard

Member
I mean... I understand that.

But Aeris is just a better character imo. She's prettier, she's got a more feisty personality, she's strong and independent, selling her flowers on the road just to make a buck. SHE initiates the flirting with Cloud instead of sitting back. The girl also has the nerve to combine red and pink and makes it WORK!

Plus Aeris' limit breaks are more useful....if you waste your time leveling her up before she meets her cruel fate :(

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Tifa can pile drive a giant Triceratops with tank threads for legs into the ground. Aeris can put her head on the ground and listen to some weird cryptic shit

She's like Luna Lovegood tier at best
 

Kieli

Member
Aerith is a scammer.

Was playing a long-con with Cloud to get him to develop a crush on her (which he thankfully didn't) so that he would buy more flowers and boost the revenue of her business/monopoly.

Which gets me thinking about how profitable Strife Delivery Services is. Can it feed his family?
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Has it been confirmed who it is that will develop the game? I was hearing CyberConnect2 before the reveal but nothing since, I hope it is 100% in house. Take your time SE, I want this to be great and SE know they will make their investment back with ease so no need to rush this at all.

CC2 is still the frontrunner i think. I don't see SE having the manpower with all their other projects to do this, they are already outsourcing and finding success, so i feel its very logical to bring back CC2, who has a good track record with cinematography, real time graphics, story(their naruto games speak for themselves), as well as battle system(in regards to Dot Hack)
 
I still want them to cancel the PS4 exclusivity deal and release it on all systems simultaneously, I want the game to revive the dying JRPG genre, and exclusivity isn't gonna help.

The height of JRPG's was when exclusivity was very much a thing. During the PSone and PS2 generations when seemingly all JRPG's were funneled into a single console. It made it clear to gamers that if they wanted to play them, then there was really only one answer. The way Nomura spoke about FF7 in a recent console made it seem like that's exactly what Square is trying to do with the PS4. You want to play JRPG's this gen? You better buy a PS4.
 
Aerith is a scammer.

Was playing a long-con with Cloud to get him to develop a crush on her (which he thankfully didn't) so that he would buy more flowers and boost the revenue of her business/monopoly.

Which gets me thinking about how profitable Strife Delivery Services is. Can it feed his family?

Honestly, I would get major laughs out of that if that was it actually was.
Putting on all the stops to boost her business and potentially help him save the world all to get the fame focused on her flower business.
 

Red Mage

Member
I mean... I understand that.

But Aeris is just a better character imo. She's prettier, she's got a more feisty personality, she's strong and independent, selling her flowers on the road just to make a buck. SHE initiates the flirting with Cloud instead of sitting back. The girl also has the nerve to combine red and pink and makes it WORK!

Plus Aeris' limit breaks are more useful....if you waste your time leveling her up before she meets her cruel fate :(

Nah. Tifa was the best. Aerith/Aeris didn't come across as that interesting to me.
 
I still want them to cancel the PS4 exclusivity deal and release it on all systems simultaneously, I want the game to revive the dying JRPG genre, and exclusivity isn't gonna help.

Putting a JRPG on Xbox isn't going to revive anything. Sony have got all the big guns on their system and they are the most popular console platform in the world right now. That'll give JRPGs the spotlight they need.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Agreed.

I also want Tifa to get to shine a little more on her own.

This too. I love Tifa's relationship with Cloud, but her competency on her own as a character in regards to development is probably the absolute best thing they could give to her in this new game, i hope they really understand that.

It was ok in the original, but it would be really great to see it expanded fully just like everything else. What she was doing in the interim
 

Meowster

Member
I'm on both team Tifa and Aerith but I think Tifa is by far a better character simply because of the amount of time you spend with her in comparison. I'd actually go as far to say that Tifa is the deepest and most interesting character in VII. Especially throughout the events in Disc 2.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
fuck'em both

#teamyuffie
 
There's just so much more story between Cloud and Tifa.

I hate it when I replay VII and I suddenly find myself on a date with Aeris.

To her credit though, I really hope they do get rid of the leather mini-skirt for the remake. It would make no sense at all.
 

Turin

Banned
There's just so much more story between Cloud and Tifa.

I hate it when I replay VII and I suddenly find myself on a date with Aeris.

To her credit though, I really hope they do get rid of the leather mini-skirt for the remake. It would make no sense at all.

I do too but a lot of fans would complain.

It's one of the reasons I really want customization options.
 
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