That's true, but that one Persona 4 dungeon is indicative of where the story goes. I'm just saying that the possibility that the apparent dungeon with the destroyed cityscape in #FE could be as well is there. Hell, the fact that the dungeons themselves are "fake" (e.g. the clouds in the picture you posted are held by strings on the ceiling) could be indicative of a lot as well, which is what we don't know about the game right now.
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I'm really disappointed in Illusory Revelations#FE (SMTxFE)
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That's true, but that one Persona 4 dungeon is indicative of where the story goes. I'm just saying that the possibility that the apparent dungeon with the destroyed cityscape in #FE could be as well is there. Hell, the fact that the dungeons themselves are "fake" (e.g. the clouds in the picture you posted are held by strings on the ceiling) could be indicative of a lot as well, which is what we don't know about the game right now.
That would be the first one in 5 games, and it hasn't been released yet. So it doesn't count for now
do you really have to ask
why does everyone keep saying this game has a press turn system? there are turn indicators at the top yeah but all the footage they showed looked more like something out of strange journey, where your allies just add extra damage at times, and you don't really manipulate turns.
Riposte
Member
Something closer to SMT x Fire Emblem pretty much already exists. It's called Devil Survivor. All it needs are some more Fire Emblem trappings, like perma-death, field recruitment, more map interaction, and classes/weapon types. (It already has better maps/objectives than Awakening lol)
I think Devil Survivor has probably the best system of the SMT games, so I wish they went more in that formula in any case.
I think Devil Survivor has probably the best system of the SMT games, so I wish they went more in that formula in any case.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Wait, when was it said they want this to be a new series? With a Nintendo IP?
I have no idea where the news comes from that this is a Nintendo IP that they want to make subsequent games of, but Atlus has definitely stated that this is a new IP for them.
Oh, I mainly meant about the part where they want to make more games for #FE after this one. Concerning ownership, yeah, this would definitely be Nintendo's thing because they're the ones publishing the game and because of the Fire Emblem ties. There's a single piece of direct SMT imagery so far with the Jack Frost signs, though.
OmegaDL50
Member
If it's a new Atlus IP, I'd understand but the Fire Emblem references are entirely owned by Nintendo by extension of Intelligent Systems.
I mean there could be future Genei Ibun Roku games without the FE elements, I suppose, but I wouldn't expect any game with Fire Emblem aspects to not be an Nintendo IP in some form.
basically. just seeing 'SMTxFE' got me hyped, once I actually saw what it was I thought to myself how stupid it was to get hyped off of 6 letters and I completely lost interest.
As a fan of SMT, Persona and Fire Emblem games I admit I am a little disappointed in how this game is turning out but I'm going to give it a go any way. Hopefully it'll be a pleasant game to play. I'm going in knowing it is none of the above mentioned games and something else entirely.
Starwolf_UK
Member
What does Hyrule Warriors have to do with Zelda? Its got Zelda characters a few nods to the series but is very musou in gameplay.
This is the same only more abstract as the Fire Emblem characters are very stylish, you have a weapon triangle (at least I think I heard this mentioned on the treehouse live but seeing as nobody has bought it up over 5 pages), the character stat attributes are all the FE ones (no idea if they're random level ups here too) and I get the feeling combos is trying to be more FE awakening pair-up or trying recreate the gridded maps in an JRPG battle arena (you know how you would attack a boss with multiple units).
I hate Awakening and Fates for dragging the public perception of this series into the Idea Factory gutter.
It has such famous FF characters as Black Mage, White Mage and Ninja!
I also love how the game has a different name in each region Mairo SLAM Basketball for Europe.
You get constantly receive texts. It is on the Gamepad so can be ignored and I think is non-interactive regardless.
CaptainLoveline
Member
I like Persona, I also like Fire Emblem... but I don't know, for some reason I cannot get excited for this game. It has to be the visual style, it looks like a terrible crossover fanfic, what with all the ridiculous popstars theme and character designs.
And no, neither Persona nor Fire Emblem was this ridiculous.
And no, neither Persona nor Fire Emblem was this ridiculous.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Theres no way this is going to be a atlus IP when it has nintendo owned property in it.
tiebreaker
Member
It's a wait and see game for me.
I like Devil Survivor and I also like Fire emblem. But ths game looks like a miss after the first trailer. The tree house demo hasn't convinced me otherwise either.
The demon system is a big part of SMT series, which seems to be missing here.
I like Devil Survivor and I also like Fire emblem. But ths game looks like a miss after the first trailer. The tree house demo hasn't convinced me otherwise either.
The demon system is a big part of SMT series, which seems to be missing here.
The game might be good fun but they really shouldn't have announced it as a 'smt x fe' game as that creates a lot of expectations that they weren't able to deliver on.
Smt3: nocturne is my favorite rpg ever and it took me years to accept and enjoy P3-4. Persona 4 was already at scooby doo levels of camp this game looks even sillier.
Smt3: nocturne is my favorite rpg ever and it took me years to accept and enjoy P3-4. Persona 4 was already at scooby doo levels of camp this game looks even sillier.
OP, I'm fine with what i saw in gameplay during the E3 Tree House livestream. I think for most going into it, with a background in SMT or FE, need to separate those entities and everything they offer from Illusory Revelations#FE. I suspect themes from these series WILL be in it but WILL BE SUBTLE.
Go in with a fresh perspective, if your going to give this game a chance because it's clear to me this title is it's own thing and will develop its own identity.
Go in with a fresh perspective, if your going to give this game a chance because it's clear to me this title is it's own thing and will develop its own identity.
I don't know OP, the dungeons of the game that were showed during trailer and the Treehouse are giving me a serious case that the game will be told trough them and also note how wildly different are all of them:
Also the city itself is full of details and the team already said that is going to change to reflect the progress of your game.
The thing that I'm really excited tho is that the game is being made by people that worked on SMT: Strange Journey, Devil Survivor, Radiant Historia, etc... so I expected that the gameplay will be godly and the Treehouse confirmed it for me already!
Persona 5 and #FE are two of my most anticipated games this year
, can'T wait =D
Also the city itself is full of details and the team already said that is going to change to reflect the progress of your game.
The thing that I'm really excited tho is that the game is being made by people that worked on SMT: Strange Journey, Devil Survivor, Radiant Historia, etc... so I expected that the gameplay will be godly and the Treehouse confirmed it for me already!
Persona 5 and #FE are two of my most anticipated games this year
after Xeno X of course, =P
Yup, dungeons and bs made the day for me, during the Treehouse.
Dungeons especially gave me a disturbing feeling, also about the "idol" theme.
Benzychenz
Member
I don't mind high school settings and I love Persona, but I'm a little turned off by the pop idol stuff.
But it's a big console game by Atlus so I'm going to give it a go no matter what.
But it's a big console game by Atlus so I'm going to give it a go no matter what.
It's more like a neat mix between Pair Up and Press Turn System I think: when you hit an enemy weakness the other characters, even those not participating in battle, can join you and deal damage.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
The idol stuff immediately turned me off.
It was the fastest I had ever gone from a day 1 to an insta-nope.
It was the fastest I had ever gone from a day 1 to an insta-nope.
blankempathy
Member
It isn't what I was expected therefore I hate it. Personally I'm giving it a chance.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Gonna give it a shot.
I like both classic SMT and current Persona.
But my expectations for this game had to shift from expecting more of a classic SMT approach to more of a current Persona approach.
Throw in a jpop idol theme, then you really start to distance yourself from what SMT fans want in their SMT game.
But my expectations for this game had to shift from expecting more of a classic SMT approach to more of a current Persona approach.
Throw in a jpop idol theme, then you really start to distance yourself from what SMT fans want in their SMT game.
It is nto just aboput what was expected, but also what it turned out to be.
If it didn't turn out how I expected, but still was something that personally appealed to me, I would still be excited. It is just that I don't care for Idol stuff and Persona style games.
OmegaDL50
Member
I've been waiting for a JRPG with traditional turned based mechanics for a long while now, this game is providing that.
I'm not the sort of person that lets some aesthetic or artistic direction thing get in way of enjoying a game.
If people want to write this game off due to inability to get over the Idol thing when this could very well have solid and excellent gameplay mechanics that is pretty much guaranteed based on the list of individuals behind the project, that's not my problem.
I'm not the sort of person that lets some aesthetic or artistic direction thing get in way of enjoying a game.
If people want to write this game off due to inability to get over the Idol thing when this could very well have solid and excellent gameplay mechanics that is pretty much guaranteed based on the list of individuals behind the project, that's not my problem.
FunkyDealer
Banned
Nintendo screwed the announcement of this game by making it seem like a crossover when in fact it's more of a new IP inspired by the two series. I'm personally still interested as it seems to scratch a similar itch as Persona whilst being it's own thing. And it's an RPG on Wii U, so I'm in.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
That would be the first one in 5 games, and it hasn't been released yet. So it doesn't count for now
Then #FE wouldn't count either as it hasn't been released yet.
It boils down to: they shouldn't have announced it so early (two months after design started). You can't blame people for getting hyped about "SMT x FE", that was what the initial teaser sold us.
From what I've seen it seems like a Persona spinoff, certainly not SMT or FE. Especially not FE, at least not in gameplay, graphics, characters and themes; so far I've only seen citations in form of designs and the weapons triangle.
That said, I don't mind the game, will buy it if it turns out well, but it's totally different from what they pitched in the reveal. Nobody could see that coming.
Are you blind or do you just selectively choose to read only what you want to?
Oh... I see. Appropriate tag.
James Scott
Banned
Yeah, even if you don't like the themes (that's basically the only thing people are complaining about seeing as the gameplay is normal SMT) wanting one of the few big budget console JRPGs that is basically a new IP to bomb wouldn't be good for anyone
OmegaDL50
Member
What does this even mean?
I think you have to get over the SMTxFE thing. It is what it is at this point.
I was turned off at first, but the pedigree and the actual gameplay videos are really making me interested. It really is a mix of SMT and FE when you really look at it, but through mechanics, not tone.
I was turned off at first, but the pedigree and the actual gameplay videos are really making me interested. It really is a mix of SMT and FE when you really look at it, but through mechanics, not tone.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
I agree that I'm disappointed it's not a more dark and serious tone (from what we've seen so far) and I don't like the skimpy outfits, but the gameplay they showed and the people behind it have me excited and optimistic this will turn out great. For all we know, all things could turn to hell later in the game too. Just remember the apocalyptic scene from the first trailer.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
I like Atlus RPGs and don't like FE so since the FE aspect seems to mostly be surface deep only, I'll give it a shot.
GloriousBagel
Banned
Supermanisdead
Member
That it looks like anime trash
KojiKnight
Member
Then why even bother being here? These opinions aren't constructive or even interesting because there is nothing to discuss or debate. I don't understand, I don't go into sports game threads and whine about how much I hate soccer....
OmegaDL50
Member
If these sorts of games don't appeal to you, persistently showcasing your disinterest in them? Surely there are games you enjoy you'd rather talk about more?
I recall seeing you post in several Disgaea and Persona threads, nevermind the recent Star Ocean III announcement thread. I honestly don't see the point and it simply comes across as rather non constructive and a waste of time.
Surely there are games you do like and would rather discuss instead of focusing on pointless hate.