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[VlaudTheImpaler]

lol

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this is a joke right

Wait, you were joking? Because I legitimately think that would be awesome. I have never been to Boston but looking at photos online it looks pretty cool and I would love to experience Bethesda's' 1:1 Post Apocalypse 50's-60' style interpretation of it.

 

[Femmeworth]

How much of that is rummaging through junk managing inventory?

By the time my 80ish hours of Fallout 3 was done I wanted to die.

So no thanks.

 

[kswiston]

Lot of people shitting on Bethesda as usual.

All of the Elder Scrolls games were 200-300 hours if you actually wanted to do everything. Fallout 3 was shorter. I am sure 400 hours is an exaggeration unless they are counting permutations of base building, but like every other game by Bethesda, you can probably get your fill and beat most of the important quests in 50-70 hours.

 

[Whiteblade999]

Nice, gonna love all that copy and paste. Probably really bad dialogue too. I'll pass on this one and keep telling myself the Bethesda ones never happened, and New Vegas was the real Fallout 3.

 

[Kallor]

I believe it.

 

[Ingueferroque]

Sounds like that quote is being taken far too seriously.

 

[MattyG]

I'd rather 4 hours of amazing fun gameplay rather than 400 hours of walking from place to place and doing checklist filler quest garbage.

This is going to be a worse "open-world" than Ubisoft games, I bet on that.

Please tell me this is Poe's Law in its fullest form right now and not a serious post.

 

[Crayolan]

Wait, you were joking? Because I legitimately think that would be awesome. I have never been to Boston but looking at photos online it looks pretty cool and I would love to experience Bethesda's' 1:1 Post Apocalypse 50's-60' style interpretation of it.

I was joking. Do you realize how ridiculously big the map would have to be for a 1:1 scale interpretation? It would stop being interesting and start being tedious very very quickly.

 

[Enduin]

Wait, you were joking? Because I legitimately think that would be awesome. I have never been to Boston but looking at photos online it looks pretty cool and I would love to experience Bethesda's' 1:1 Post Apocalypse 50's-60' style interpretation of it.

Haha yeah no. We'll be lucky to get like 1/5 scale. Actual Boston is like 90s square miles, where as the map in the game will be probably somewhere around 15-20, Skyrim was around 14.5 square miles, and that's going to include Boston and much of the surrounding eastern Massachusetts area to boot. so really the city itself will likely be 1/10 the scale of the real thing.

 

[Dangansona]

Lot of people shitting on Bethesda as usual.

Yeah it's getting tiring.

Sounds like that quote is being taken far too seriously.

 

[vocab]

By the time my 80ish hours of Fallout 3 was done I wanted to die.

So no thanks.

It doesn't help the ending of the game was horrible, and made me sick of the game completely.

 

[Stratosphere]

TW3 is already too much for me......

 

[striferser]

Surem as long it's FUN, why not?

 

[LurkerPrime]

Y'know, as fanciful as Bethesda's claim is I have to wonder if the achievements will reflect this. I feel a lot of people view achievement completion as "finishing a game" and I'm curious whether the developers share that mentality.

 

[BumRush]

I'm sure 99% of gamers love the sound of that but I just don't have a spare 400 hours lying around anymore. It would take me 3-4 years to get through F4...

 

[Bloodrage]

This sounds like one of those needlessly long books I wouldn't read.

 

[kswiston]

I'm sure 99% of gamers love the sound of that but I just don't have a spare 400 hours lying around anymore. It would take me 3-4 years to get through F4...

All of their recent games are beatable in 30ish hours if you just stick to the main quest line. If you don't have 30 hours, you are probably not playing CRPGs as it is.

 

[Apoleptica]

I have heard of people putting in 300 hours into fallout 3, though I honestly don't know what they possibly did in it for that long, likely played with mods I'm guessing. I personally completed fallout 3 in about 60 and that included every notable quest and dlc and felt that was more than enough.

 

[MattyG]

I'm sure 99% of gamers love the sound of that but I just don't have a spare 400 hours lying around anymore. It would take me 3-4 years to get through F4...

Obviously it doesn't mean it'll take that long to just get through it. You could probably play the main quest in less than 15 hours, assuming it follows the pattern of Skyrim and Fallout 3/NV. Everything else will take considerably longer, sure, but I'm guessing the 400 hours they're talking about (which people are taking way too seriously) is referring to small locations and secrets, not manditory/crucial content.

 

[Syntsui]

You can do the same with pretty much any Bethesda open world game.

 

[brickarts295]

They said Skyrim would take 200-300 to complete all additional quest along with the 30hr campaign. It took me 80+ hours to platinum the game (though I did not complete all additional side missions [they got repetitive to be honest]) and I was pretty satisfied with that. So I guess I can predict 100hrs+ to platinum Fallout 4, unless they add a difficulty trophy like they did for NV. I'll be honest though I might spend more than I'd like to on weapon crafting and creating a safe haven.

I also want to be able to unlock all locations as it is personal goal that I haven't been able to achieve with F3,NV and Skyrim. So that might end up adding a couple of hours.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

You should mow all the lawns in your city instead, same amount of time, similar gameplay and better for your real life karma.

I'm a community garden manager so... Also, mowing lawns is actually not doing the earth (not to mention the bees) any favors.

Oh, you where just trolling.

OT, This takes place 200 years after the bombs drop so I wonder if we will see more big bodies of water and or rivers populating more of the center of the map rather than the edges ala fallout 3. Boston has some wonderful looking water scenery.

 

[MattyG]

They said Skyrim would take 200-300 to complete all additional quest along with the 30hr campaign. It took me 80+ hours to platinum the game (though I did complete all additional side missions) and I was pretty satisfied with that. So I guess I can predict 100hrs+ to platinum Fallout 4, unless they add a difficulty trophy like they did for NV.

If they add a difficulty trophy that I don't want to spend a ton of time doing, I'll just do what I did with NV and find a good speedrun strategy. Took me 6 hours from Goodsprings to the Hoover Dam.

 

[Zoso]

He's just saying the game is big with lots to discover. That's it.

His quote in no way says that it will take 400 hours to complete everything in the game.

 

[LQX]

I'm sure it will be about half that going by the past games. I spent something like 160 hours on New Vegas and I'm sure there are things I missed.

 

[Woorloog]

I've put like... well, more hours than i count to Skyrim, Oblivion, and Morrowind, and Fallout 3 and New Vegas, each, without seeing nowhere near everything in any one of them. That is without DLC locations, which i haven't fully either.

400h without seeing everything? Very, very easy to believe.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

I was joking. Do you realize how ridiculously big the map would have to be for a 1:1 scale interpretation? It would stop being interesting and start being tedious very very quickly.

Haha yeah no. We'll be lucky to get like 1/5 scale. Actual Boston is like 90s square miles, where as the map in the game will be probably somewhere around 15-20, Skyrim was around 14.5 square miles, and that's going to include Boston and much of the surrounding eastern Massachusetts area to boot. so really the city itself will likely be 1/10 the scale of the real thing.

Yeah, I wasn't thinking lol. In my defense my son just knocked over all of his books on his book shelf so I was in a rush.

Anywho, I was just thinking about the weather system fallout 4 and so went to do some research and found this article and video. He actually talks a bit about world size and trying to fill it with as much detail as possible. It's worth a watch. Oh, and radiation storms. O_O

 

[Gamesadict]

According to Steam I played Skyrim for over 350 hours. I explored absolutely everything, (almost) maxed my character, found all unique items, completed all (or most) quests. Same character I started back in 2011, no alt character stuff.

I can see it happening.

 

[Yarbskoo]

Dungeons with copy paste assets everywhere, with no interesting features to distinguish one from another.

Just like Skyrim.

 

[Sotha_Sil]

Bethesda says this with every game. A total non-statement if there ever was one.

Part of me was hoping they'd make a smaller world this time through. People don't realize how small of a development group they are, I think they tend to overextend on the vanilla game but then turn around and make some incredible stuff in smaller-sized expansions (Shivering Isles, Point Lookout, The Pitt, Dragonborn).

 

[OmegaDL50]

Probably.
It is part of the Bethesda experience.
Has anyone of us ever played their main series FO/ES without a crash or a bug?

Has anyone ever played ANY large open world game without any sort of crash or bug is an even better question.

 

[Enduin]

The whole bug issue for me is not a big concern. Skyrim was a relatively flawless experience for me unlike FO3 and NV. Most issues I had were later on after release as results of my own excessive modding. So I am not that concerned this time around. I'm sure there will be a few issues, some broken quest lines and maybe a crash or two, but nothing too serious.

I mean DAI had some big bugs and performance issues here and there. The worst of which was the voice switching at a certain point in the game which held up playing it for a week or so. The Witcher 3 was even worse and one of the more rocky games I've experience in a while. Very fluctuating performance with each patch introduced and a number of broken quests. The worst of which completely prevented me from playing and finishing the game for nearly 3 weeks.

 

[Srey Plaughtered]

As much as that sounds cool, I hope it's good and meaningful content and not the same thing over and over again. Eitherways this is not something they need to say lol.

 

[fluffydelusions]

But why is Boston surrounded by mountains?

 

[McLovin]

All you guys saying no thanks but he didn't say that the main game is that long. You could just ignore the side stuff.

 

[MattyG]

But why is Boston surrounded by mountains?

Last time I was in Boston, I checked for them when crossing the Tobin Bridge and could see mountains in the distance. I don't know if they're what Bethesda was trying to replicate, but I saw some at least. Accounting for scale, it seems like the mountains you can see in the trailer might be kind of accurate (maybe a bit too close though).

v Or it's what Machina said

Edit: yeah, forget what I said. I went on Google Earth Street View to double check and they definitely aren't even close to looking like the in-game ones. Machina is definitely right though;

Entire mountain ranges were created as the ground buckled and moved under the strain of the cataclysmic pressure produced by numerous, concentrated atomic explosions.

 

[Machina]

But why is Boston surrounded by mountains?

That is actually in Fallout lore. The nuclear holocaust caused dramatic seismic shifts that formed new mountains all over the place.

 

[Banana Aeon]

Oh boy, that's a doozy to here.

Can't wait to play the lobotomy Bethesda will serve once more.

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I fucking hate being a Fallout fanboy.

 

[n0razi]

you could honestly say that about any game

 

[pantsonhead]

I dont' get this mentality (I'm talking about all of you people with this mentality that games should be shorter). No one says you have to play all the game and if you just do the main quest I promise you it won't even come close to 400 hours (note part of his 400 hours was doing town building which can take up a lot of time in itself if you really get into it. I mean look at Minecraft or sim city and how long people play those games).

I like 100%-ing games, fuck me, right?

Usually these times are given with all the side quests and other stuff you can do. Rarely is that the time it takes to finish the main quest (Witcher 3 for example said the main quest was like 40 hours or maybe 70 but their overall time included all contracts and other side quests). And Bethesda games have really short main quests honestly imho (least Skyrim and Fallout 3. If you just did the main quests the games were pretty short).

So, why is it bad the game has more than you want to play? If that's too much for you, just play the main quest and maybe some side quests. You don't have to do it all. It's a helluva lot better than it being short and finding you wanted more and there's nothing left. It gives you choice. Do a quick run through of the main quest and just do what you want.

Again, fuck me for liking to 100% my games, right?

Are you who are complaining the kind of person that is compelled to do everything in the game? Cause that's the only way I could see this being a bad thing honestly (and unless you are obsessive compulsive and really can't get yourself to let it go, maybe you should learn games are more fun when you don't force yourself to play parts just cause there is a trophy or a percentage it claims you finished. I mean I only ever aim for trophies that look like they'd be fun to actually accomplish, not just cause they exist).

Maybe you shouldn't tell me how to enjoy things?

And if you find Bethesda games boring, why are you even in this thread or care about Fallout 4? Shouldn't you be focusing on the games that cater more towards what you want?

I never said Bethesda games are boring, either in the post you're responding to or on this site ever, so far as I can recall. I like Fallout, I hope Fallout 4 won't eat up a huge portion of my day. If it does? Oh well, I'll deal, if it doesn't? Cool. So chill out, it's fuckin' video games.

 

[kamineko]

Gee whiz.

I mean, sure, I'm worried about the skill-free character system and the "more satisfying shooting" going in, but as long as there's interesting stuff to find, big is good.

I guess we'll just have to see about that.

 

[Canis lupus]

LMAO!

I played Fallout 3 for 70 hours and saw everything, did every quest. Games that get grandiose statements like that about their content always end up under delivering. Dont delude yourselves, the main quest is gonna be a 30 hour rpg with another 30 hours for the side quests.

 

[kswiston]

LMAO!

I played Fallout 3 for 70 hours and saw everything, did every quest. Games that get grandiose statements like that about their content always end up under delivering. Dont delude yourselves, the main quest is gonna be a 30 hour rpg with another 30 hours for the side quests.

You probably didn't do everything/see everything in 70 hours. These games have a ton of content outside of the named quests and map locations. It just happens to be too boring to be worth doing for most people.

 

[wowlace]

This is like "see those mountains, you can go there" right?

 

[Wag]

I invested >200hrs into Skyrim. That's with mods tho.

I'll easily do this with Witcher 3. That game is fucking huge.

 

[tilomite!]

Is it 400 fun hours? Would be tough to pull that off.

 

[Dysun]

I played 150 hours of Skyrim and there was plenty I didn't get around to exploring. I can buy something like 200 for all side quests and locations

 

[diamount]

An absolute useless statistic, if that means 100 hours of main quest and meaningful side quest content and 300 hours of going through the same area which has been copy pasted 10 times then that is something I'm not interested in.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

Gardiner is curtains in Swedish. Wonder if he knows Billy Bookcase?

With that said, I care increasingly little about numbers. Wish they'd bother pushing the alphabet more. Yes, this is another one of those "I hope Bethesda's improved their writing, characters, world-building etc" posts. Their games can clearly manage without particularly excelling in that area, but it sure would be nice.

 

[On Demand]

I invested >200hrs into Skyrim. That's with mods tho.

I'll easily do this with Witcher 3. That game is fucking huge.

That's it? I've played Skyrim for 450+ hours and i still haven't finished the main story. I only just visited Windhelm around that time and still have about 3 guilds to join and many other town quest.

My chips ahoy and milk is ready for Fallout 4.