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[dark10x]

As one who's a proponent of keeping things classic, I don't believe you're suggesting that they tamper with uncharted 1's gameplay, the 60fps and no tearing should be good enough as it is. Let Uncharted 3 play like Uncharted 3 and Uncharted 1 play like Uncharted 1.

Yeah, you're probably right but there are things about it that I find really annoying to go back to.

I just don't understand this, we've just had a bevy of below 30fps remasters on basic looking games (saints row, zombi, payday) etc....What we're getting here is an already great looking series, with thorough improvements to textures, models, lighting, shadows, AA, dof, improved shaders and effects at 1080p 60fps, but what do we do? we choose to complain about motion blur not being present......At this point, they should just offer a 30fps/w MB option for the two persons who want to play that way, there's no way we should be losing a solid 60fps on account of an MB implementation. The dev is great, the PS4 console is a good one but it doesn't have infinite power......

I wish more complaining would be projected at obvious bad ports like RE-R2, Alien Isolation, Remake, Xenoverse, Zombi etc....Most of the time, all we get from DF is that such games are cpu limited.......

Why do you think motion blur only works at 30fps? I don't get this. We've seen how nice motion blur looks at 60fps for years now. I don't like how quickly you discard the opinion of those that think it's important.

My complaint has nothing to do with those other trash remasters. This does look like one of the very best remasters to date but motion blur is something that is very important to me. If they have to cut it for performance reasons, fine, I can deal with that. I'm not convinced that's true as The Last of Us Remastered was able to operate with motion blur (with a modified shutter speed, of course). It wasn't a flawless 60fps but it was a smooth experience and I can't imagine the Uncharted games placing a greater demand on the hardware.

If they don't enable it in this collection it should still be one of the very best remasters on the market but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be disappointed by that aspect. I'm not complaining for complaining's sake here. It really is very important to me and bringing it up in an article like this will hopefully get some attention.

I mean, this kind of thing CAN slip through, right? Uncharted 3 launched without motion blur, after all. I was pretty crushed when that happened but, thankfully, it was fixed rather quickly.

I'm currently working on Gears Ultimate and that too has no object motion blur. Considering that Gears 3 offered that, this is also hugely disappointing (doubly so since the campaign is only 30fps). I'm not letting that slide either. It would have helped the visuals tremendously. For what is basically a remake, it's pretty disappointing.

Oh, and I think you're being too harsh on Alien Isolation. It could likely be a BETTER port but, as it stands, it basically runs at a very consistent 30fps on PS4. The original release had a few issues but the current version is extremely solid across the board. It's not as optimized as it could be but the experience is good. The XO version looks awful, though.

Also note that I never wrote anything about any of those other games aside from RE-R2 which was a terrible port on PS4. It's been improved dramatically since launch, though, but it's still not where it should be.

 

[Circinus]

I don't see that much difference to be honest. Seems like a well-done port with some good visual enhancements and a significant performance improvement (30 fps -> 60 fps). To say it's more than a remaster is a bit of a hyperbole. There's no new or remade content or anything like that; it's still a visually enhanced port essentially, aka a "remaster" to say it with a fancy marketing-friendly term.

And in some areas, I have the impression that the PS3 version looks visually/artistically better.

 

[Cave Johnson]

I don't see that much difference to be honest. Seems like a well-done port with some good visual enhancements and a significant performance improvement (30 fps -> 60 fps). To say it's more than a remaster is a bit of a hyperbole. There's no new or remade content or anything like that; it's still a visually enhanced port essentially, aka a "remaster" to say it with a fancy marketing-friendly term.

And in some areas, I have the impression that the PS3 version looks visually/artistically better.

A standard remaster would basically be the equivalent of upping the res+framerate and call it a day. The fact that they managed to rework the cutscenes, replacing the old drake model from UC1, and reported gameplay tweaks makes it more than just an unlocked setting reserved for PC ports.

 

[kyser73]

ITT:

A minor journalistic flourish in a headline is worth 50 posts of debate.

Bad highlights on Young Drake in UC3 trump a realistic looking hair colour for some posters.

My pre-order is looking ever more justified.

 

[Bishop89]

Bluepoint should be the only studio allowed to do remastered games.

I agree.

Can't wait to revisit these games

 

[Hellgardia]

I think i have never been so hyped for a remaster. They seem to be doing very solid work.

Uc1 will get The most benefit imo

 

[Pandy]

Title is hyperbole, but Bluepoint putting in good work as always.

 

[Mr E.]

Define Remaster.

If improving assets is "more than a remaster" then I think the term remaster needs to be clarified. Are we saying straight ports to next gen are now considered remasters.

Confused.

 

[Shin-Ra]

You very rarely get this kind of remodelling and retexturing on a remaster.

But I still define it as a thorough remaster.

 

[Famassu]

You very rarely get this kind of remodelling and retexturing on a remaster.



But I still define it as a thorough remaster.

Eh? A lot of remasters have slightly touched up assets like better textures and ever so slightly improved character models.

 

[dark10x]

Define Remaster.

If improving assets is "more than a remaster" then I think the term remaster needs to be clarified. Are we saying straight ports to next gen are now considered remasters.

Confused.

It's still a remaster! Just a headline designed to demonstrate that, yeah, they're doing a lot more work here than you see with most other remasters. That's all. The whole "remaster", "remake", and "port" thing has been totally scrambled over the years.

This is basically a port of the three Uncharted games with a lot of visual changes which, I suppose, counts as a remaster.

Something like Gears Ultimate is more of a remake in comparison since it doesn't share any assets with the original game. It's 100% new visually (though it still has shortcomings).

Eh? A lot of remasters have slightly touched up assets like better textures and ever so slightly improved character models.

Not like this, though.

How many remasters have you played where huge chunks of world geometry have been redesigned or touched up? That's really the main thing here. Plenty of remasters use higher resolution textures (often just sourced from the original PC releases) and some improved character models, but Bluepoint is going in and re-doing a LOT of stuff here. Models and objects that barely get any screen time have been re-made. Lots of scenery elements like railings or rock faces have been re-modeled at a higher level of detail. Stuff like that just isn't the norm.

Slapping higher resolution textures onto an old model is one thing, but remodeling stuff?

 

[thelastword]

Why do you think motion blur only works at 30fps? I don't get this. We've seen how nice motion blur looks at 60fps for years now. I don't like how quickly you discard the opinion of those that think it's important.

My complaint has nothing to do with those other trash remasters. This does look like one of the very best remasters to date but motion blur is something that is very important to me. If they have to cut it for performance reasons, fine, I can deal with that. I'm not convinced that's true as The Last of Us Remastered was able to operate with motion blur (with a modified shutter speed, of course). It wasn't a flawless 60fps but it was a smooth experience and I can't imagine the Uncharted games placing a greater demand on the hardware.

If they don't enable it in this collection it should still be one of the very best remasters on the market but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be disappointed by that aspect. I'm not complaining for complaining's sake here. It really is very important to me and bringing it up in an article like this will hopefully get some attention.

I'm not saying that you should not bring up the lack of MB, it's an analysis, so you must touch on every detail, which I respect and applaud you for. I'm just saying yet again that in the video you kept bringing it up over and over and even in your conclusion, it kinda diminishes what they have done against what they probably chose not to do, because they had (60fps). I know MB is important to you, at 30fps it serves as a nice enhancer, but at 60fps it's not that great of a deal to the majority of persons.

If it is that they can implement it at 60fps, I'm not against it, but if I'm losing frames due to it being present, it won't serve as a substitute for these lost frames. I've even seen you on occasion say that MB smoothed out a slightly less than 30fps experience in one of the faceoff threads, I was just never of that opinion frankly, MB can never replace lost frames.

Oh, and I think you're being too harsh on Alien Isolation. It could likely be a BETTER port but, as it stands, it basically runs at a very consistent 30fps on PS4. The original release had a few issues but the current version is extremely solid across the board. It's not as optimized as it could be but the experience is good. The XO version looks awful, though.

Alien Isolation should be 60fps on the PS4, lesser hardware runs it at that, it's a bad port allright.

Also note that I never wrote anything about any of those other games aside from RE-R2 which was a terrible port on PS4. It's been improved dramatically since launch, though, but it's still not where it should be.

That improvement means nothing tbh, the weaker hardware still runs this game much better still, the PS4 gpu is choking on grassy outdoor scenes, whilst the XBO gpu is doing just fine. That game should be running at a 100fps on the PS4, in essence, we should never see a dropped frame throughout the entire thing. It's always the most basic looking games that task the PS4 so I'm thinking pong-remaster will be it's worse achilles heel yet.....

 

[Shin-Ra]

I wonder if Bluepoint improved the flat level perimeter walls in Drake's Fortune.

 

[thelastword]

I wonder if Bluepoint improved the flat level perimeter walls in Drake's Fortune.

I wonder what rocks and stones look like in Drakes Fortune at this point, the shader made them look slightly overly wet and shiny at times, I'm also wondering if they gave the rocks a more round form, most of them had this (sharp line edge) about them, but come to think of it, I guess that was a design to cater to the platforming in-game. It will be interesting to see more of the changes no doubt....

 

[Dictator93]

Alien Isolation should be 60fps on the PS4, lesser hardware runs it at that, it's a bad port allright.

Which lesser hardware runs it at 60fps?

 

[Creamium]

I'm really looking forward to playing Drake's Fortune again thanks to this collection.If remastered games are treated like this, I really don't mind them and actually welcome them.

 

[Alo0oy]

Which lesser hardware runs it at 60fps?

PC Rigs with lesser specs run it at 60fps.

 

[Dictator93]

PC Rigs with lesser specs run it at 60fps.

What is worse about these PC rigs exactly?

 

[Brakus]

Which lesser hardware runs it at 60fps?

An R7 260X can average 66fps at 1080p, that is a lot weaker than the PS4 GPU.

 

[Dictator93]

An R7 260X can average 66fps at 1080p, that is a lot weaker than the PS4 GPU.

As far as benchmarks go, it does not maintain 60fps.

Perhaps that game they had problems with the low IPC or they locked it at 30 due to drops.

 

[c0de]

An R7 260X can average 66fps at 1080p, that is a lot weaker than the PS4 GPU.

With which processor?

 

[Percy]

Rolling my eyes at how upsetting the wording used in the headline seemingly is for some.

 

[Brakus]

With which processor?

I was going to say without taking the cpu in to account, but even so I think the PS4 cpu is an equivalent of a underclocked FX8120. I would definitely say that the PS4 AI should be pushing a much much smoother frame rate though, but I guess the work to get it at 60fps wasnt worth the effort! Crack it out at 30fps on both consoles.

 

[Dictator93]

I was going to say without taking the cpu in to account, but even so I think the PS4 cpu is an equivalent of a underclocked FX8120. I would definitely say that the PS4 AI should be pushing a much much smoother frame rate though, but I guess the work to get it at 60fps wasnt worth the effort! Crack it out at 30fps on both consoles.

Quite a heavily underclocked FX8120....

The game is quite well threaded on PC though. Also, as far as I can see, the FLOPS are 1,971 GFLOPS for a R7 260X. It is not worse off from a theoretical perspective regarding shading and what not.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Would it be out of place for me to say I think this will be a fun and enjoyable remaster.

 

[Alo0oy]

With which processor?

Does it matter for a game like Alien isolation?

 

[Brakus]

Quite a heavily underclocked FX8120....

The game is quite well threaded on PC though. Also, as far as I can see, the FLOPS are 1,971 GFLOPS for a R7 260X. It is not worse off from a theoretical perspective regarding shading and what not.

Yeah well the PS4 is hardly overflowing with power, it must have been an easy time to get it running at 30fps on the PS4, I'm sure they could have added a unlock option without v-sync though, it was great that option was added to Bioshock on the 360.

 

[Dictator93]

Does it matter for a game like Alien isolation?

Yes, considering running consistently high framerates requires a good CPU. Furthermore, a GPU witth higher flops [R7 260x] cannot maintain 60fps GPU wise, why would a GPU with less flops and with a decidedly worse processor be able to maintain 60?

 

[leeh]

This looks great, really tempted to pick up a PS4 and play this series since I never owned a PS3 last gen. Wish I had the time. Hardly play games these days.

Why so negative folk? This looks like a very well done remaster on one of the most critically acclaimed franchises.

 

[c0de]

Does it matter for a game like Alien isolation?

Do we know how the engine works?

 

[Koobion]

This has won me over. I'm in day 1. What a studio.

 

[Dictator93]

Do we know how the engine works?

oh, yes and this.

This looks great, really tempted to pick up a PS4 and play this series since I never owned a PS3 last gen. Wish I had the time. Hardly play games these days.

Why so negative folk? This looks like a very well done remaster on one of the most critically acclaimed franchises.

I think everyone is positive overall.

 

[bombshell]

I don't see that much difference to be honest. Seems like a well-done port with some good visual enhancements and a significant performance improvement (30 fps -> 60 fps). To say it's more than a remaster is a bit of a hyperbole. There's no new or remade content or anything like that; it's still a visually enhanced port essentially, aka a "remaster" to say it with a fancy marketing-friendly term.

And in some areas, I have the impression that the PS3 version looks visually/artistically better.

To the bolded, yes there is new content.

New trophies and modes such as our Explorer, Speed Run, and Brutal Modes will invite long-time adventurers to replay these classics while welcoming newcomers to discover Uncharted greatness.

• Explorer Mode is an all-new mode for beginners where combat difficulty is reduced greatly.
• Speed Run Mode adds a timer that allows players to track their gameplay time against their friends as they play sections of the game.
• Brutal Difficulty Mode is the ultimate challenge as the gameplay will be more punishing than Crushing Difficulty (unlocked after beating Crushing Difficulty in the same game)

You can even play all three single-player games in the collection as Doughnut Drake (or any one of over 65 other characters skins) if you’re so inclined.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015...ed-the-nathan-drake-collection-story-trailer/

Define Remaster.

If improving assets is "more than a remaster" then I think the term remaster needs to be clarified. Are we saying straight ports to next gen are now considered remasters.

Confused.

This isn't just a straight port. See above.

 

[Vamp]

It doesn't look much better than the ps3 to be honest. Yeah its 1080p and 60fps but other than that the difference is minimal.

 

[Hoo-doo]

It doesn't look much better than the ps3 to be honest. Yeah its 1080p and 60fps but other than that the difference is minimal.

Minimal? You kidding me? UC1 in particular looks miles better in every way.

 

[Vamp]

If i have to pause the screen to see the differences than yeah its minimal.

 

[Brakus]

Minimal? You kidding me? UC1 in particular looks miles better in every way.

UC1 looks great!! The others definitely smaller improvements, but still improvements......aside from the MB.....oh sheeeit I said it! Haha

 

[DieH@rd]

I didn't have a PS3, so I've never played these games. It's like this collection was made just for me.

You are going to have a blast with this game, and many other ps3 remasters.

 

[AcePartyN7]

I could have bought a PS4 for this collection if the MP of U2 was back with dedicated servers but it's not so I will focus on X1 games this year and buy this someday.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

I could have bought a PS4 for this collection if the MP of U2 was back with dedicated servers but it's not so I will focus on X1 games this year and buy this someday.

Thank god Microsoft's Xbox One all-in-one entertainment system has got you covered!

 

[rhino4evr]

I could have bought a PS4 for this collection if the MP of U2 was back with dedicated servers but it's not so I will focus on X1 games this year and buy this someday.

This is such a weak argument.

The game comes with a multiplayer beta, and if you buy the UC collection, why would you not eventually buy UC4 and play multiplayer on that?

Now you won't get to play uncharted at all. So ...winning?

 

[Late Flag]

Can't wait for these. It's going to be so much fun to re-plat these three.

 

[AcePartyN7]

This is such a weak argument.

The game comes with a multiplayer beta, and if you buy the UC collection, why would you not eventually buy UC4 and play multiplayer on that?

Now you won't get to play uncharted at all. So ...winning?

I have no interest in U1 and U3 and other Sony games released this year except Bloodborn. I will probably take a ps4 for U4 but this year with only a single player collection and bloodborne for me it's simply not enough to buy one yet, it' s simple as that.

For now I prefer spent my money and indeed focus on other games. Nothing fanboy here, just my taste and opinion.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

I have no interest in U1 and U3 and other Sony games released this year except Bloodborn. I will probably take a ps4 for U4 but this year with only a single player collection and bloodborne for me it's simply not enough to buy one yet, it' s simple as that.

For now I prefer spent my money and indeed focus on games like Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Gears (MP is here) and others 3rd party games.
Nothing fanboy here, just my taste and my opinion.

You have to realize that pointing out the UC collection's key weakness and then mentioning the X1 for absolutely no reason comes across as shilling.

Your second post does too, listing X1 exclusives, then "no fanboy, just my opinion."

 

[AcePartyN7]

You have to realize that pointing out the UC collection's key weakness and then mentioning the X1 for absolutely no reason comes across as shilling.

Yeah true but was not my intention as I really loved U2, it's one of my fav gam ever (did not do the first game and the 3rd could not finish it.).I wanted just show that it's really sad specially for me that they don't give the online features like MCC did for comparaison and I know that a lot of fans loved the mp of u2. See Halo 5 is coming as example but I still see myself play Halo CE or Halo 2 online time to time.
Anyway the U4 bundle will be probably the one that I will take even if i'm in love with the taken king console. Is there any TNDC console edition btw planned?

 

[Curufinwe]

I wonder how long ti will take for them to sell the games separately. U2 is the only one I feel like playing again since I played it a year before playing U1.

 

[R_thanatos]

They must implement motion blur and there is still work on the textures to be done , but so far i like the changes.

 

[mf.luder]

I'm really looking forward to playing through these games again. I wish they would unlock crushing from the get-go though.

 

[BigTnaples]

Haven't been this hyped for a Remaster since the Last of Us. And even though Last of Us is in my Top 5 GOAT, I am actually more excited for this because of the amount of changes/upgrades going into it.

 

[Always-honest]

I could have bought a PS4 for this collection if the MP of U2 was back with dedicated servers but it's not so I will focus on X1 games this year and buy this someday.

Suuuuuuure.