sti4thewin
Member
It's not that the tapes are required to understand the story more so connecting past characters / game plots to where they stand now in mgsv. I'm about 15 hours in and story is perfectly clear even without ever listening to a tape.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Metal Gear Solid V Spoiler Free Impressions Thread
- Thread starter dc89
- Start date
- Status
GwyndolinCinder
Member
played for about 4 hours
- prologue was very good, great atmosphere, raises a lot of questions, makes me 10 times more mad that pt ain't happening
- Graphically a lot better than GZ, performance is rock solid, LOD pop in is improved from GZ but there is still large land draw distance pop ins
-Side ops feel very important to mother base progression
- Level design of bases is really varied and creates different situations to deal with,even how you approach missions makes a big difference
- Game feels fluid and dynamic, things going wrong for you can often create an advantage ( such as dodging an missile and said missile blowing up a device you need to destroy)
- Tape dialogue is excellent, but listening during gameplay is frustrating, due to constant overlay from Miller etc
- Game is overwhelming in terms of what you can do from the get go
- Most importantly this game is a joy to play
- prologue was very good, great atmosphere, raises a lot of questions, makes me 10 times more mad that pt ain't happening
- Graphically a lot better than GZ, performance is rock solid, LOD pop in is improved from GZ but there is still large land draw distance pop ins
-Side ops feel very important to mother base progression
- Level design of bases is really varied and creates different situations to deal with,even how you approach missions makes a big difference
- Game feels fluid and dynamic, things going wrong for you can often create an advantage ( such as dodging an missile and said missile blowing up a device you need to destroy)
- Tape dialogue is excellent, but listening during gameplay is frustrating, due to constant overlay from Miller etc
- Game is overwhelming in terms of what you can do from the get go
- Most importantly this game is a joy to play
TimeEffect
Member
Too overwhelmed playing Witcher to read up on MGS's story to properly enjoy MGSV
However, I am curious about the exploration. I am really hoping there are places to explore that are just there for the sake of exploration and immersion
Are all the landmarks just areas with bad guys patrolling?
Can I walk into a forest and find a cave? Or find some abandoned ..place? I'm not asking for Fallout levels of landmarks, but is the exploration solely to benefit motherbase, or are there easter eggs and items to collect just for fun?
However, I am curious about the exploration. I am really hoping there are places to explore that are just there for the sake of exploration and immersion
Are all the landmarks just areas with bad guys patrolling?
Can I walk into a forest and find a cave? Or find some abandoned ..place? I'm not asking for Fallout levels of landmarks, but is the exploration solely to benefit motherbase, or are there easter eggs and items to collect just for fun?
I haven't played it yet but in Ground Zeroes you pressed in the left side of the touchpad to access the pause menu. I assume it is the same in the main game.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Eh, it's that weird sort of pseudo-cutscene gameplay. It's heavily scripted and you need to stay in the right place at the right times etc with a little bit of combat. The first chapter is about an hour, and the second one is not far off that too (I think it took me 40 minutes).
The left side of the touchpad opens the "technical" menu, and you can pause the game that way.
8 hours played and only 3% done... This is going to be great, love the side missions, and they keep multiplying lol.
You're effectively playing a long cutscene tutorial thing, it's awesome but something you'd only want to go through once.
You're effectively playing a long cutscene tutorial thing, it's awesome but something you'd only want to go through once.
Hellwarden
Member
How does the actual sneaking feel?
My biggest worry about this game is whether or not Metal Gear style sneaking is engaging in a more open environment.
My biggest worry about this game is whether or not Metal Gear style sneaking is engaging in a more open environment.
Garrett Hawke
Member
From what I've seen so far, just bases. Exploration doesn't really seem to be the focus of free roam mode, it's more about getting places for a specific mission or looting nearby bases for stuff/people.
Basically the same as GZ. A little bit easier as there's lower enemy concentration but it feels very similar to that, as opposed to MGS4.
kinaesthete
Member
Glad to hear the controls are even slicker than they were in Ground Zeroes. Somewhat related question: one of my few technical beefs was that the free camera got kind of crappy in tight spaces and corners, seemed like the thing it wanted to focus on most in those situations was BB's back. Any significant differences noticed or is it pretty much the same?
zkorejo
Member
The left side of the touchpad opens the "technical" menu, and you can pause the game that way.
Thanks!
I just realized I never paused in GZ and just killed myself instead.
Death Metalist
Member
Both. You'll be having abit of control in some of the cutscenes as well and full blown gameplay.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Can't check at the moment because there's no online connectivity currently available. When you boot the game it tries to log in to Konami's servers and fails.
sti4thewin
Member
Having just played through legacy collection again, sneaking feels fantastic. Very fluid and responsive. The environment really suits a more tactical stealth approach too
VARIA
Member
Ah, ok. Thanks!
Garrett Hawke
Member
Tape length is pretty short, between 1 minute and 3 minutes with most averaging 1 minute 30 secs, but the way they're arranged is by topic. So while each tape within a topic would only be a few minutes long, they kind of flow like conversations so you'd need about 10 minutes for each topic.
Oldest Snake
Member
So how does the L1/LB codec/radio work in this game?
Is Ocelot the only contact you can call for information in TPP like Kaz was in GZ, or can you choose who to call for info during the game?
Is Ocelot the only contact you can call for information in TPP like Kaz was in GZ, or can you choose who to call for info during the game?
RevolverRoden
Member
Is there a way to make Kaz and the iDroid shut up?
I don't want to hear "in country they were known as Glaz and Palitz, the eye and the finger," a million times.
I don't want to hear "in country they were known as Glaz and Palitz, the eye and the finger," a million times.
TheChundertaker
Member
Ugh I want to get it but my work load is so frontloaded this semester that I probably won't buy anything until the end of October.
Garrett Hawke
Member
afaik it's just the one button again. But I'm still super early in the game, only 5 main missions in.
I haven't heard any repeated dialogue like that so far. It really bugged me in GZ but I haven't heard it here. You get a brief at the beginning when you land, occasional contact about updates as you go, and that's about it.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
SOLD
Garrett Hawke
Member
In my experience, the weapon being too close to bodies thing still isn't improved. I found myself accidentally picking up the body instead of the weapon or vice versa a few times.
App isn't out yet
Niiiiice.
Are there any big and heavily guarded bases to infiltrate like Camp Omega?
Also do any missions take place in indoor and more linear areas or is everything set in the open world?
My only worry about the game so far is that all the bases from the gameplay videos looked pretty generic and easy to infiltrate
Also do any missions take place in indoor and more linear areas or is everything set in the open world?
My only worry about the game so far is that all the bases from the gameplay videos looked pretty generic and easy to infiltrate
Call me a fucking nerd, but I was so excited my heart was racing. Played it for about 4 hours last night, before my eyes just gave up and forced me to go to bed, I couldn't believe that not only I was playing a new MGS game, I was playing what's most likely the last true MGS game, and oh man it's a glorious game...
I won't spoil anything for anyone of course, but just to talk a little bit about it, the first couple of hours of the game are absolutely batshit kojisan-insane cinematic action.
As for the core of the game itself, I only played a few missions, but I can already tell I'll be spending dozens of hours immersed into this world. It still feels like that familiar Metal Gear game we all know and love but at the same time it feels like a new kind of game I've never played before,almost feels like a new genre of game, it's so fresh! The freedom you have in here is absolutely unparalleled, and there's so many different ways to tackle the missions, that most likely no two playthroughs from two diferent people of a single mission will be the same, which of course adds a lot of replayability value to the game.
It just feels so good to play a game that doesn't underestimate the players intelligence, quite the contrary it asks for the player to be creative with his thinking, this game breathes gameplay and I love it for it!
I won't spoil anything for anyone of course, but just to talk a little bit about it, the first couple of hours of the game are absolutely batshit kojisan-insane cinematic action.
As for the core of the game itself, I only played a few missions, but I can already tell I'll be spending dozens of hours immersed into this world. It still feels like that familiar Metal Gear game we all know and love but at the same time it feels like a new kind of game I've never played before,almost feels like a new genre of game, it's so fresh! The freedom you have in here is absolutely unparalleled, and there's so many different ways to tackle the missions, that most likely no two playthroughs from two diferent people of a single mission will be the same, which of course adds a lot of replayability value to the game.
It just feels so good to play a game that doesn't underestimate the players intelligence, quite the contrary it asks for the player to be creative with his thinking, this game breathes gameplay and I love it for it!
5-7 hours at this time.
- The prologue is awesome, really tense and with a lot of WTF moments. Great!
- In the first missions the game is really overwhelming with a lot of info and commands (gameplay, tapes, mother base, development, side missions, etc) but I'm really impressed how they managed to make everything so natural to the player with precise menus and commands. Everything is very intuitive.
- I'm a bit concerned about the story development. It's like Peace Walker but with less development in cinematic sequences, replaced by boring tapes... I think they lose some identity with this decision, I mean, tapes before cinematic sequences? WTF Kojima, I'm not very happy with this, since for me the story development is why I love this games.
- Afghanistan is kinda empty (remembers A LOT to Red Dead Redemption), it could be very repetitive after a few hours.
- The AI is awesome.
- The game can be repetitive. I know Konami says many time about how you approach to the missions, but this is not the problem, I think the big problem of this game is the open world design. I'm in just for 6 hours, but I can definetely say: MGS IS NOT FOR A OPEN WORLD DESIGN!
On a side note, the feeling of revenge is very persuasive and with a great protagonist, I want to kill everyone haha.
- The prologue is awesome, really tense and with a lot of WTF moments. Great!
- In the first missions the game is really overwhelming with a lot of info and commands (gameplay, tapes, mother base, development, side missions, etc) but I'm really impressed how they managed to make everything so natural to the player with precise menus and commands. Everything is very intuitive.
- I'm a bit concerned about the story development. It's like Peace Walker but with less development in cinematic sequences, replaced by boring tapes... I think they lose some identity with this decision, I mean, tapes before cinematic sequences? WTF Kojima, I'm not very happy with this, since for me the story development is why I love this games.
- Afghanistan is kinda empty (remembers A LOT to Red Dead Redemption), it could be very repetitive after a few hours.
- The AI is awesome.
- The game can be repetitive. I know Konami says many time about how you approach to the missions, but this is not the problem, I think the big problem of this game is the open world design. I'm in just for 6 hours, but I can definetely say: MGS IS NOT FOR A OPEN WORLD DESIGN!
On a side note, the feeling of revenge is very persuasive and with a great protagonist, I want to kill everyone haha.
I have played about four hours and completed four missions.
I'll tell you how good this game is. My girlfriend watched me play Ground Zeroes this morning and the prologue of Phantom Pain in the afternoon and then insisted that we spend all evening playing it together.
She has no interest in games.
I'll tell you how good this game is. My girlfriend watched me play Ground Zeroes this morning and the prologue of Phantom Pain in the afternoon and then insisted that we spend all evening playing it together.
She has no interest in games.
Garrett Hawke
Member
It's fine. I hugely prefer Hayter but Kiefer isn't bad, it's not like a Destiny-Dinklage situation. Sometimes he emotes a little flat but it's fine for the most part.
Also, it really does sound like a different character.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
dynamic cqc is no joke, you press r2 and snake will react, doesn't matter if you got knocked down, you can cache struggle your way to victory .
Various Artists
Banned
Are the tapes easy to miss? I dont want to miss a bunch of the game because I didnt spot the tapes.
THIS !
GwyndolinCinder
Member
they unlock automatically no collection needed for story Tapes
In GZ you could use Night Vision to easily spot the tapes. Maybe it's the same here? I only wonder if there are too many.
EDIT:
Ooooh.
I just downloaded it from the UK App Store (iOS). But my MGS is 283 miles away so I can't play for another two days.
Shadow_Lord
Member
I have a question. Does development of weapons and items take time? I figured they would be, but I heard they were removed.
Headshot
Can you elaborate a bit? Has the system been overhauled from GZ?
I want to hear about the PS3 version too.
That's a bit of a bummer.
As a Hayter fan too I was hoping it might somehow feel less obvious.
Oh well. Can't derail my hype though
I can not stress how cool and important the tapes are. 3 hours in and they have banished any doubt I had about the game not having lore or story. They are dripping in details and they are solidly voice acted so far.
I like how some of the tapes have music subtlety playing in the background (original music), it really heightens the emotional weight or significance of some of them.
I like how some of the tapes have music subtlety playing in the background (original music), it really heightens the emotional weight or significance of some of them.
- Status