Count Dookkake
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I don't get why you even need to state racial preferences. Just respond to the people you want to.
Just like gender preferences are sexist.Racial preferences are clearly racist, but they're also unconscious. You really can't choose who you are attracted to.
What can be changed are bullshit arbitrary rules like "I'm not into black women", which might be just as important as preferences.
Just like gender preferences are sexist.
Just like gender preferences are sexist.
hm...maybe...maybe they are. maybe they are.
I prefer women who act like women. No tomboys please.
Not a fetish, a preference... just like preferring some races over others.More tomboys for me~
....Is that a fetish? Liking tomboys? ._.;
There's "I know my own preferences/tendencies in attraction, I tend to go for X but am open to Y should the right person come along". That's not a problem.
Then there's "I don't date X, full stop." That's a problem.
As someone who likes all the shades, this is how I feel.I find it off that a person who is attracted to women can dismiss a whole pool of them based just off their race. When I hear "I'm not attracted to black women" I always get confused. There are so many different types of black women, how do you know you're not attracted to any of them.
I don't base my preference on that, it's just something I've noticed. The people I'm attracted to tend to have a lot of things in common.Do you not see how that doesn't make sense?
How can you base your preference on something superficial that doesn't define a person or how they will physically look, the color of their skin notwithstanding?
If you saw a person you were physically attracted to, but then took that same person and made their skin a different shade (to whichever "race" you dislike when it comes to attraction) why would they be any less attractive? Not to mention things like race don't dictate how someones personality is going to be.
I totally understand having preferences but exclusion of a specific type of person based on an arbitrary trait that they have little to no control over is going a bit beyond preferences. I get thinking something like "eh I'm just not that attracted to asians" but how can you (i.e. anyone thinking along those lines), after reading this thread in particular, not look back at that statement and go "ok maybe that is a bit wrong."
Agreed. It's really weird.A hot guy is a hot guy no matter the race. Prejudices are not preferences.
It's an absurd complaint. Choosing who you have sex with is an inherently discriminatory process.
And what makes a person hot is completely definable?A hot guy is a hot guy no matter the race. Prejudices are not preferences.
A hot guy is a hot guy no matter the race. Prejudices are not preferences.
It's mentioned, not discussed. I won't defend people whose "preferences" lead them to state that black people or women are disgusting and they want nothing to do with any of them, ever, but the comparison holds just fine when we're talking about general inclinations toward certain traits.You know this example is discussed in the article, right?
I don't get why you even need to state racial preferences. Just respond to the people you want to.
It's an absurd complaint. Choosing who you have sex with is an inherently discriminatory process.
well, "hot" is a matter of opinion, so no.
That the perception, the reality says something different. Lisa Ann is almost a household name and shes fucked every shade of penis under the sun.
I imagine that may have been true in like the 80s, 90s and early 2000s though. But not anymore, lol.
Much like the modeling industry, the porn industry deals with surface, exteriors, looks, bodies. And, as it turns out, like modeling, porn is full of racial inequities.
In March, porn star Aurora Snow told the Daily Beast that "on-camera race relations are a complicated topic" in porn's "fantasyland." The myth is that white women who don't have sex with black men on camera earn more. Snow, who is white, was asked, point blank when she got into the business, whether or not she "did interracial." But some agencies only have a small group of performers willing to do interracial.
And as Keli Goff writes for The Root:
In an age in which multiracial families are among the fastest growing in the nation, it is hard to fathom that there is a national industry, $10 billion strong, in which interracial couplings are considered career suicide. It seems that the historical taboo of black men sleeping with white women is one sexual hang-up that even the porn industry is unwilling to get over.
But! Scenes between white men and black women? Very popular. It's just black men that are somehow considered taboo. (Thai porn star Keni Styles once said that women who have worked with him will tell him they don't do interracial; they don't see working with him as interracial sex that means black guys.)
Goff reports:
Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, is not particularly surprised that there are those who still frown on sex between black men and white women, telling The Root, "Racism has so much to do with sex, and always has. The first era [Ku Klux] Klan was absolutely obsessed with fear of white women being violated by black men."
When asked about the popularity of other interracial pairings in porn, Potok replied, "It is remarkable how attractive to certain people what looks forbidden is. It is mind-blowing how often we discover the Klan leader with the black transvestite or the neo-Nazi leader with the black girlfriend. It happens very frequently."
Goff interviews black porn performer Misty Stone, who reveals that black women in porn are consistently paid substantially less than white women, no matter the project. And while a white performer can get away with refusing to work with black men, Stone says that as a black woman, "it would not go over well" if she refused to work with a white man.
Goff also talks to Lexington Steele. A former stockbroker, he's one of the most successful black guys in the porn industry partly because he founded his own company. He tells Goff:
"Quite honestly, adult media is the only major business that allows for the practice of exclusion based upon race."
Sounds like something that's been said about modeling. It's hard not to compare the two, since they're both about fantasies, deal with physical performance, and the participants stand to earn a lot of money. And as long as the folks running both industries have a narrow view of what's desirable, the problem will persist.
This is my feeling on it as well.
Especially since this can be extended to other preferences that you could just as easily label as a whole plethora of -ists.
If I do not date women over 40, am I ageist?
If I only date women at roughly my income and education level, is that classist?
If I do not date women who already have children, am I misopedist?
Like, you can take this in so many ridiculous directions.
I don't base my preference on that, it's just something I've noticed. The people I'm attracted to tend to have a lot of things in common.
No, you're just confusing hot with what you think is hot, and that's racism. They should finally get around and publish the empirical hotness scale so we can do away with predjudice.well, "hot" is a matter of opinion, so no.
It's fine! It's a hard thing to express, and this is a really difficult topic 😁Yeah I couldn't tell exactly how you were framing that so I tried to leave my post open to being about anyone, apologies if I seemed to be targeting you or anything.
The important thing to realize is we're all bad people.This is my feeling on it as well.
Especially since this can be extended to other preferences that you could just as easily label as a whole plethora of -ists.
If I do not date women over 40, am I ageist?
If I only date women at roughly my income and education level, is that classist?
If I do not date women who already have children, am I misopedist?
Like, you can take this in so many ridiculous directions.
The question I have is, with each person, how much of those preferences are rooted in the culture and media they grew up with? In the west I don't think we can deny people grow up surrounded by media that generally holds up Eurocentric beauty standards. People are taught that is what's beautiful, if only implicitly, vastly more often than they are shown alternatives.
Then you have the idea of what a "black" or "latino" person even is and the variety within those subgroups that tends to get ignored when people say they aren't attracted to the "look" of a certain race. Every race has a shitload of "looks" to it.
There's so much diversity in physical traits within races that I can't really wrap my mind around being sure that you aren't attracted to anyone of that race.
And you sleep at night afterwards knowing how morally wrong that is?IDK about you other white guys , but I always masturbate thinking about black women
And you sleep at night afterwards knowing how morally wrong that is?
But surely you can see the difference between holding your own personal opinions and openly disparaging a member of a different group with "no blacks" or something on your dating profile.
Imagine people wrote "blacks are not desirable" on their dating profiles, and you were black. Then imagine you noticed it on a considerable percentage of the profiles that you were interested in. That's what it's like. Yeah you can explain and justify the motivations for putting that on a profile, but at the end of the day, all people are going to see is "blacks are not desirable."
Yeah, it's the finality of the statement that makes it racist, I feel. As in 'it doesn't matter how amazing your other qualities/traits are, don't waste my time if you're black', or 'I'd rather date the ugliest white guy than you'. Only a racist deals in absolutes.But surely you can see the difference between holding your own personal opinions and openly disparaging a member of a different group with "no blacks" or something on your dating profile.
Imagine people wrote "blacks are not desirable" on their dating profiles, and you were black. Then imagine you noticed it on a considerable percentage of the profiles that you were interested in. That's what it's like. Yeah you can explain and justify the motivations for putting that on a profile, but at the end of the day, all people are going to see is "blacks are not desirable."
One of the most bizarre conversations I've ever had with someone was when they said "Racism sucks" and then "I wouldn't date an Asian guy" within ten seconds.
If I do not date women who already have children, am I misopedist?
If someone says that never felt attracted to black people but would definetly date someone black then I don't think there's a problem.
I'm attracted to some women from all races, but I do find that I have a strong preference for those of my ethnicity (caucasian). It's just the way I am, and I don't see it as inherent racism.
Personality is most important to me, though, and I wouldn't turn down a date offer or an invite out for coffee from someone just because of their skin colour.
This is my feeling on it as well.
Especially since this can be extended to other preferences that you could just as easily label as a whole plethora of -ists.
If I do not date women over 40, am I ageist?
If I only date women at roughly my income and education level, is that classist?
If I do not date women who already have children, am I misopedist?
Like, you can take this in so many ridiculous directions.
My preferences boil down to two points.
1) There isn't a single ethnic group where I don't have sexual attraction to some women. There are hot women in all races.
2) For actual relationships, cultural factors greatly limit who I would have important common ground with. These factor would cover things like family, religion, politics, language and so on.
This is my feeling on it as well.
Especially since this can be extended to other preferences that you could just as easily label as a whole plethora of -ists.
If I do not date women over 40, am I ageist?
If I only date women at roughly my income and education level, is that classist?
If I do not date women who already have children, am I misopedist?
Like, you can take this in so many ridiculous directions.