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Out of control pit bulls attack man.

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diamount

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It's only 9:30 in the morning but I'm pretty confident the comparison of a dog breed to guns is going to be the dumbest thing I see all day.

I wasn't comparing them in that way but with frequent use of anecdotes .e.g ''I'm a responsible x owner and why should I be penalised'
 

Speevy

Banned
I would have run over the dogs with a car. If a dog tries to kill a person, it needs to be put down immediately.
 
That's terrifying. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to own dogs.

One of our dogs was attacked just 2 days ago by an American Staffordshire Terrier.

What she looked like after we took her home from the vet:
Awe, dude..poor thing! Speedy recovery..
It's funny too because when the UPS driver shows up he is always like "Let the dog out". :)
Can't blame em. They're great dogs..
Welp, now I want to throw up.
Stay away from the Chow video..had me bugging..
I would have run over the dogs with a car. If a dog tries to kill a person, it needs to be put down immediately.
Those two are on their way out..count on it.
 

Grazzt

Member
Fuck, the video is more disturbing than I expected. Those dogs began to attack other people at the end of the video.
 

charsace

Member
It should be hard for anyone to get a dog that can grow to be of a certain size. Because some asshole who doesn't know what they are doing can raise a bad dog that does this.

And the owner should get jail time. His weak ass was walking around 2 strong fucking dogs that he had no control over. You can tell he is one of those assholes who enjoys walking his dogs just to see people try and get out of the way of them.
 

nilbog21

Banned
wow, i'm pretty sure those people would have let the guy die, just grab the dogs by the hind legs. Can you imagine seeing 30 people in your peripheral vision watching you get eaten by a dog... I wonder what set the dogs off, clearly the dude trains them to attack and should be held accountable. No pit bull acts like this. These dogs are rewarded all therei life for acting this way. Thats like buying a gun, having no idea how to use it, and just waving it around in public..
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Dammit OP, I was hoping you'd post a video of a cute puppy relentlessly licking its owner in the face or something :(
 
What a useless dispatcher, should be fired.

And yeah, pitbulls should be outlawed, a long with rottweilers.

World would be a much better place if neither species existed.

Any owners of either are fucked in the head.

Both those dogs should be put down and the owner charged with something.
 

gatling

Member
That's terrifying. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to own dogs.

One of our dogs was attacked just 2 days ago by an American Staffordshire Terrier.

What she looked like after we took her home from the vet:

Oh wow Im so sorry. This is one of my nightmares.

I live in a populated downtown district where people keep massive dogs in tiny apartments, a lot of them pitbulls. Why people keep large dog breeds in tiny apartments anyway blows my mind.
 

sn00zer

Member
What a useless dispatcher, should be fired.

And yeah, pitbulls should be outlawed, a long with rottweilers.

World would be a much better place if neither species existed.

Any owners of either are fucked in the head.

Both those dogs should be put down and the owner charged with something.

Or they should start throwing more people in jail using these dogs for fighting.
 
I saw a Golden Retriever that had to be put down because it attacked a child. All aggravated/starving/mentally deficient/abused dogs are potentially lethal. Dalmatians are a particularly nippy breed, but 101 Dalmatians have the public thinking differently. There's a lot of bizarre alarmist information being throwing around in this thread and its sort of weird. Yes, they are involved in a lot of attacks, but you have to realize that its the people and not the breed. They're a naturally strong animal and through nurture and abuse they are trained to attack. A good line of terriers who are trained properly (like all dogs) and are raised in a positive atmosphere are beautiful and wonderful pets. Even rescues who are rehabilitated grow into lovely animals and amazing companions. There is a very critical period for these rescues where they are observed and worked with to see if they are able to return to society. If they are a lost cause they are unfortunately put down.

When Golden Retrievers account for 6% of the dog population but 67% of the dog related fatalities (like Pitbulls), then you'd have a point. I never claimed no other dogs had ever killed anyone. Pitbulls disproportionately do so. You also didn't quote the rest of my post which specifically blamed people. I clearly already know the cause is the people, so why you're basically saying exactly what I said back at me, I don't quite know. I prefer to take a pragmatic approach to the discussion. The reality is that pitbulls are incredibly strong and, under the wrong owners, dangerous - very few people have a need for that in their pets.
 
Yes, I don't agree with his statements but saying 'my dog is great, it wouldn't hurt a fly' is just not relevant in the slightest. Great you are a responsible owner who can socialise his/her dog - but that was obviously not the case and for a large percentage of PB owners and the that is skewed due to the large amount of people getting one for the tough guy image.

Everyone's personal experiences aren't relevant, but it's not a bad thing to bring them up. Other people brought up their dealings with other family's pit bulls, and owners brought up theirs. It ain't that big of a deal.

Also for the record, I remember the last time this thread got up, and it got real messy. Note for the dog-related fatalities percentages and whatnot; if the breed is unidentifiable, mixed, or rather unknown, law enforcement will usually classify it as a pit bull.
 

Zombine

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When Golden Retrievers account for 6% of the dog population but 67% of the dog related fatalities (like Pitbulls), then you'd have a point. I never claimed no other dogs had ever killed anyone. Pitbulls disproportionately do so. You also didn't quote the rest of my post which specifically blamed people. I clearly already know the cause is the people, so why you're basically saying exactly what I said back at me, I don't quite know. I prefer to take a pragmatic approach to the discussion. The reality is that pitbulls are incredibly strong and, under the wrong owners, dangerous - very few people have a need for that in their pets.

I actually thought that as I was quoting the post. I know you are taking a logical approach toward the discussion and was not trying to spin it any particular way or paint you negatively. The bolded in your post is 100% correct. I'm still trying to figure out what the purpose of the thread is though. Is it to discuss animal abuse and the culture surrounding these poor animals or do a majority of folks just want to have them all put down? As someone said earlier, this particular group of people that use them as guard/fighting dogs will just find the next best breed for the job. I think it's time for harsher penalties for those who abuse these dogs and animals in general.
 

Zaphrynn

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Though for this delete: People who blanket hate pits or dogs in general are idiotic fucks swayed more by emotion than actual logic
 

Downhome

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We had a God awful Pitbull attack her in upstate SC just a couple weeks ago. It attacked the owners, and it just destroyed parts of the three people, killing one of them. It latched on to one arm and ripped her apart for 5-10 minutes until the police arrived and shot and killed the pit, all while still attached to the person.

http://m.wyff4.com/news/witness-2-woman-attacked-by-dog-in-greenville-county/34901954

http://m.wyff4.com/news/witness-woman-killed-in-dog-attack/34866424

http://wspa.com/2015/08/25/pitbull-attacks-two-elderly-greenville-co-women/

This guys has no clue how lucky he is, if he lived. If those people didn't act then he would have been ripped part, killed. When they attack, they often do not stop until the person is dead.
 
What a video to wake up too..... All that blood.... Reminds me how this almost happened too myself. Was running down the street to go home from school. I hear a dog barking, it runs out of its yard and starts to chase me. But then it decided to go after the kids behind me.... I don't think anyone was hurt. But to have a dog run out of its yard and chase people is dangerous as hell...

Edit : Now that I think about it... Most dogs on our street are awful.... Right across from us are two labs that are wild as hell. They hate anything foreign.... Only thing stopping them is a fence that they could easily jump. But are too stupid to do so..
 

Kinyou

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I don't really see what the problem would be with banning or at least heavily regulating ownership of Pitbulls. (Of course would you be exempt if you already own a Pitbull, you just wouldn't be able to get a second one.)

Is there a reason why you'd particularly want a pitbull over any other dog race?
 
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Deleted member 12837

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When Golden Retrievers account for 6% of the dog population but 67% of the dog related fatalities (like Pitbulls), then you'd have a point. I never claimed no other dogs had ever killed anyone. Pitbulls disproportionately do so. You also didn't quote the rest of my post which specifically blamed people. I clearly already know the cause is the people, so why you're basically saying exactly what I said back at me, I don't quite know. I prefer to take a pragmatic approach to the discussion. The reality is that pitbulls are incredibly strong and, under the wrong owners, dangerous - very few people have a need for that in their pets.

According to this data, huskys are actually far more dangerous than pit bulls, they just have a lower percentage of ownership. Rottweilers are equivalent as well. Should we git rid of all of them too?

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Zombine

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Just like all the people who are coming out with their own anecdotal stories about how all pit bull owners are unhinged. In fact, those people posted first and pretty nastily, so I can see the defense. All pitbull owners are unhinged, a tough guy, only wanted it to look cool, etc etc. Yeah, totally thought-out and properly researched assertions.

"Not all pit bulls" people were gonna come in here eventually, but they're not the only ones spouting senseless shit.

I used to work in a dog daycare. The nastiest, meanest dogs there were wheatons. I'm not gonna say,"Well I've personally known a lot of wheatons, and they were all aggressive so that means all wheatons are aggressive!" It's stupid. I've only been sexually assaulted by men. Should I distrust all men too?

Making blanket statements about dog owners you literally don't even know is beyond stupid. Which is what plenty of people in here are doing, and it makes you wonder why pit bull owners defend themselves?

What happened in this video is tragic. I believe these dogs should be put down. I also believe that it should be a lot harder to get any dog, especially bigger breeds. I'm definitely not going to deny that an out of control pit bull is more scary than other breeds. There are just so many dogs and backyard breeders out there that it's difficult to enforce.

And comparing dogs to guns? Guns have literally one purpose: to harm. Dogs, even pit bulls, have a multitude of uses. The person saying all dogs should be destroyed? Are you thinking at all about the implications of that? Rescue dogs, seeing eye dogs, seizure dogs, home help dogs, bomb dogs, police dogs, war dogs, therapy dogs etc etc. What would you offer to replace these jobs?

By the way, Helen Keller's service pet was a pit bull. An older version of that "breed", but still considered a pit bull. And I'm glad Petey on the Little Rascals didn't go on a murderous rampage 9_9

(I don't mean to only quote you, Dia, just using my phone and it's awful to try and multi quote on)


Thank you for being logical. This is a wonderful post.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
outside of the man being attacked, what made the video more disturbing is the fact the lady on the phone calling the police had to say her address more than 10 times on the phone. How hard is it for them to respond after giving the address? The man could of bled to death due to the semi incompetence by the dispatcher.
I called once (roll over crash outside my apartment, someone else) over the past 4 years and they were asking for the address. It was a street I didn't know. I was so frustrated. Like, what's e911 for?
 
We get it. You love your dog. The problem is that these dogs are potentially lethal. The main problem that aggravates this is there are guaranteed to be some irresponsible, POS humans owning some of these 120 pound insanely strong, potentially lethal dogs. Go take a look at the list posted in this thread of all the people who were killed by these dogs. Put yourself in the situation of a family that has a child killed by a pitbull with an irresponsible owner. Look at the statistics. I don't know about you, but I don't think having a preference for a breed like this is worth the deaths of all those kids. You can get a different type of dog.

Also, that Beagle is gonna have a rough time doing any serious damage even to small children.


No, you dont get it. Keep reading. It has nothing to do with how well we raised our dog.
This idea that if you eliminate an entire breed you eliminate the issue. Knuckleheads will set their sights on some other strong dog with big jaws to breed bloodthirsty. It will take time but remember Staffordshire Terriers werent always fight dogs.
 

ldcommando

Banned
As bill burr said, a pitbull is a gun that you can pet, those fuckers can be vicious.

Edit: btw, watch the whole bit about bill burr getting a dog, it´s fucking funny.
 
I actually thought that as I was quoting the post. I know you are taking a logical approach toward the discussion and was not trying to spin it any particular way or paint you negatively. The bolded in your post is 100% correct. I'm still trying to figure out what the purpose of the thread is though. Is it to discuss animal abuse and the culture surrounding these poor animals or do a majority of folks just want to have them all put down? As someone said earlier, this particular group of people that use them as guard/fighting dogs will just find the next best breed for the job. I think it's time for harsher penalties for those who abuse these dogs and animals in general.

The point of the thread is to report what has recently happened without any agenda. This was caught on video and has gone viral.
 
Sure you would have. Those dogs shrug off any kick.


There needs to be tighter restriction on the breed, how the hell it would be enforceable would be the issue.

There needs to be a tighter restriction on owning pets, period. Take some classes and pass some tests, including a fee.
 

dorn.

Member
This is all anecdotal but if someone came to our house we would tell them to be careful with the rescue dalmatian over any other dog. He is an unpredictable fucker. Also..collectively my girlfriend and I have been bit more times by our Beagle than any of the other dogs. But what do I know, I'm just a piece of trash!

I fail to see the point. Dalmatians and Beagles can be little shits therefore we should keep breeding dangerous breeds? And if you seriously let your dogs bite you several times and play it off like it's no big deal I have to question your ability to properly raise and care for pets.
 
This is GAF's reaction to everything that causes harm:

GET RID OF IT FOREVER.

Guns, pitbulls, etc.
Well when the item provides 0 positive benefits to society and is simply an exercise in dicks showing off their right to be dicks, the "get rid of it forever" mentality is far more compelling.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Well when the item provides 0 positive benefits to society and is simply an exercise in dicks showing off their right to be dicks, the "get rid of it forever" mentality is far more compelling.

I had a pitbull as a loving pet for 15 years. Never barked let alone attack anyone. Didn't realize my parents were trying to be dicks showing off their right to be dicks, but thanks for clearing that up.
 
i love the comparisons to other breeds these threads always yield by pitbull lovers. "my family's golden/terrier/grandma likes to bite/nip at people sometimes, should society ban them too?" like comparing an m1 abrams to a pistol
 

Dude Abides

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I had a pitbull as a loving pet for 15 years. Never barked let alone attack anyone. Didn't realize my parents were trying to be dicks showing off their right to be dicks, but thanks for clearing that up.

Another breed of dog could also have been a loving pet. The problem is these big strong dogs are dangerous when they get aggressive and some breeds seem to have been bred for aggression.
 
The breed should be outlawed. In the hands of inexperienced owners they are very dangerous. At the very least, there needs to be an extensive screening and licensure process for getting one.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I went to the humane society to adopt a dog and they are really all pitbulls. Pitbulls of every size, age, color, and disposition. It seems the owners do not keep them long. That or they breed a lot.
 

Hypron

Member
That's terrifying. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to own dogs.

One of our dogs was attacked just 2 days ago by an American Staffordshire Terrier.

What she looked like after we took her home from the vet:

Damn, hope your dog gets better :/

Reminds me when my parent's dog (a german pointer) got almost killed by another dog (I don't know the breed but it was one of those very muscular dogs — could even be a pitbull but I don't know). The poor dog almost got his throat ripped off. The wound inflicted was pretty damn bad and would have killed him if it was a cm to the side. From what I've been told the other dog's owner spent the entire time kicking it to try to get it off but he might as well have not done anything because the dog didn't give a single fuck.

I'll also echo what other people are saying in this thread. It's easy to say that you'd have gone Rambo on the dog's ass, but it's a lot different in person. On another instance I was walking my parent's dog around the block and then headed back home. Literally 10 metres from our door step a dog (once again a pretty muscular one) comes running and starts attacking straight away. I had no idea what to do, it happened so quickly. I tried to pull my dog back to get him away from the other one but it was almost impossible as the two dogs were just spinning around. Thankfully the other dog's owner (a pretty huge guy) managed to get there quickly and get his dog under control before any damage was done. But it was still pretty damn scary.
 
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