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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U: PIRATE STAGE FROM BRAWL IS BACK

Illucio

Banned
Should have been a character.

I agree to an extent. Rathlos Armor is one of the more well known armors from Monster Hunter along with one of the most well known Monsters.

I just don't want a sword user unless he was a great sword user to change things up a bit. :3
 

PKrockin

Member
How incredibly disappointing that they made Monster Hunter into Mii costumes when an original fighter had so much potential.
 
Pirate Ship is a nice surprise for a stage - loved it in Brawl and excited to have it back. I bought the complete bundle for both Wii U and 3DS as well...I cannot get enough DLC for Smash 4!
 
Keep bringing back classic stages and I'll keep buying them. Love being able to have a shit-ton of stages from over the series in one (well, two) place(s).

Well, keep releasing stages in general and I'll keep buying them, lol
 

Hatchtag

Banned
How incredibly disappointing that they made Monster Hunter into Mii costumes when an original fighter had so much potential.

If the series keeps its momentum up and Capcom and Nintendo stay on good terms, I'd strongly bet on them getting a rep in the next Smash.
 

Metal B

Member
Did they fix Samus!?

Samus:

Melee Charge Shot (N-Special 3)
  • Fully charged damage 18% → 20%, growth 35 → 32, base 65 → 70, size 8 → 10
  • Partial charge damage 5% → 6%, angle 45° → 40°, base 30 → 50, size 4.0 → 2.5
Screw Attack (Up Special) Looping hitboxes 2-4
  • Angle altered 100 → 96
  • Weight knockback altered 150/120 → 178/140
Neutral Air
  • Initial strike hitbox size increased 5.5 → 6.0, duration 2 → 4 frames
  • Second strike angle now 45 from Sakurai Angle
  • Second strike sweetspot size 3.5 → 4.0
  • Second strike sour spot growth 80 → 98, size 2.8 → 3.3, duration increased by 2 frames
Forward Air looping hits damage 1.0% → 1.6%
Nothing major. I guess, the big changes only come, if they include new fighters. Since the team has to balance the new ones anyway.
 

PKrockin

Member
Samus:


Nothing major. I guess, the big changes only come, if they include new fighters. Since the team has to balance the new ones anyway.
I've been meaning to ask for a while, why do they bother making all these microscopic changes? 5 degrees angle change? 1% damage change on one hit of a move that doesn't matter to begin with? It's weird.
 

Bluth54

Member
That's because some people still see the 3DS version as a "filler", even though the playerbase is bigger than the Wii U's. Go figure.

I don't see the 3DS version as filler, I just don't think that the controls work well for smash. I had the same issue with Kid Icarus Uprising and never finished that game because of it.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
At least pirate ship is back. But geez Nintendo is still missing the mark on these mii costumes. Let me use those characters online if you want my money.
 
I agree to an extent. Rathlos Armor is one of the more well known armors from Monster Hunter along with one of the most well known Monsters.

I just don't want a sword user unless he was a great sword user to change things up a bit. :3
I would have liked a MH character to use different weapons per smash direction. Down smash could have been a hammer attack (that spin one maybe), forward could be lance, up could be greatsword etc.
Throw in a felyne companion as well.
 
I should be happy for Pirate Ship but really I'm just starved for new characters.

Also it'd be nice to share the wealth a bit more with the DLC stages, I think that's enough Mario and Zelda, I demand Frigate Orpheon!
 

Jackano

Member
I want to take one sec in this random thread about Smash Bros content to remember that before the games came out, we had great deal of discussions on how and if DLC will exists for the game. Turns out that the userbase splitting, which was the major argument against DLC, is finally nowhere near being a problem. They are milking out every dollar they can even with older content!

This also give a pretty clear idea of where Smash Bros is going on NX. Games as a service, the system you want, the content you want ("want or "paid for").
 

Gvitor

Member
I can't help but feel these Mii costumes are the characters that got a lot of votes in the Ballot but not enough to compete for the actual character slot.

Dunno if that makes me worried or happy for Isaac though.
 

Varjet

Member
If you try to upload a replay to that is longer than three minutes the game will now generate a highlight reel like MK8. Haven't tried it out yet, though.
 
GameXplain's Ash Paulsen (GAF's own MaverickHunterAsh) just creamed his pants with joy.

You know me so well!

Seriously though I am so goddamn hyped you have no idea

What's the music on the Pirate Ship and Mario Maker levels?

Super Mario Maker (27 songs, 1 new and 1"new"):

Style Switch: Ground Theme [NEW Smash 4 remix/original, SMB 1/SMB 3/SMW/NSMBU]
Title (Super Mario Maker) [NEW Smash 4 remix]
Mario Bros. [Brawl remix]
Super Mario Bros. Medley [Smash 4 remix]
Ground Theme / Underground Theme [Smash 4 remix]
Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.) [Brawl remix, the Mushroomy Kingdom one]
Underwater Theme (Super Mario Bros.) [Brawl remix]
Princess Peach's Castle [Melee remix]
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels Medley [Smash 4 remix]
Super Mario Bros. 3 Medley [Smash 4 remix]
Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros. 3) [Melee remix]
Airship Theme (Super Mario Bros. 3) [Brawl remix]
Underground Theme (Super Mario Land) [Brawl remix]
Super Mario World Medley [Smash 4 remix]
Yoshi's Island (Melee)
Fortress Boss (Super Mario World) [Smash 4 remix]
Castle / Boss Fortress (Super Mario World/SMB 3) [Brawl remix]
Title / Ending (Super Mario World) [Brawl remix]
Main Theme (New Super Mario Bros.) [Brawl remix]
Athletic Theme / Ground Theme [New Super Mario Bros. 2, Smash 4 remix]
Ground Theme (New Super Mario Bros. 2) [original]
Ground Theme (New Super Mario Bros. U) [original]
Peach's Castle Stage [Smash 64 remix]
Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros. 3) [original]
Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros. 2) [original]
Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.) [original]
Ground Theme (Super Mario World) [original]

Pirate Ship (12 songs, no new)

Dragon Roost Island [The Wind Waker, original]
The Great Sea / Menu Select [Smash 4 remix]
The Legend of Zelda Medley [Smash 4 remix, the one that came with the Hyrule Castle 64 DLC)
Dark World / Dark World Dungeon [Smash 4 remix]
Tal Tal Heights [Brawl remix]
Song of Storms [Brawl remix]
Gerudo Valley [Ocarina of Time, original]
Gerudo Valley [Smash 4 remix]
Ocarina of Time [Brawl remix]
Village of the Blue Maiden [Four Swords Adventures, original]
Termina Field [Majora's Mask, original]
Ballad of the Goddess [Skyward Sword, original]
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Dunno if that makes me worried or happy for Isaac though.

Isaac really have very low chance to become playable character tho :(

What's the music on the Pirate Ship and Mario Maker levels?

You should check whole thread because there is a post on second page. :|

For new page.

Super Mario Maker's My Music List:

Style Switch: Ground Theme (SMB/SMB3/SMW/NSMBU) - Original
Title (Super Mario Maker) - Sm4sh Remix (Lone new remix in this DLC pack)
Mario Bros. (Mario Bros.) - Brawl Remix
Super Mario Bros. Medley (Super Mario Bros.) - Sm4sh Remix
Ground Theme / Underground Theme (Super Mario Bros)
Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros) - Brawl Remix
Underwater Theme (Super Mario Bros) - Brawl Remix
Princess Peach's Castle (Super Mario Bros) - Melee Remix
Super Mario Bros: The Lost Levels Medley - Sm4sh Remix
Super Mario Bros. 3 Medley - Smash 4 Remix
Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros 3) - Melee Remix
Airship Theme (Super Mario Bros 3) - Brawl Remix
Underground Theme (Super Mario Land) - Brawl Remix
Super Mario World Medley - Sm4sh Remix
Yoshi's Island (Melee) - Melee (duh) Remix
Fortresss Boss (Super Mario World) - Sm4sh Remix
Castle / Boss Fortress (Super Mario World / SMB3) - Brawl Remix
Title/Ending (Super Mario World) - Brawl Remix
Main Theme (NSMB) - Brawl Remix
Athletic Theme / Ground Theme (NSMB2) - Sm4sh Remix
Ground Theme (NSMB2) - Original
Ground Theme (NSMBU) - Original
Peach's Castle Stage - Smash 64 Remix
Ground Theme (SMB3) - Original
Ground Theme (SMB2) - Original
Ground Theme (SMB) - Original
Ground Theme (SMBW) - Original

Pirate Ship's My Music List:

Dragon Roost Island (Wind Waker) - Original
The Great Sea / Menu Select (Wind Waker) - Sm4sh Remix
The Legend of Zelda Medley (TLOZ/OoT) - Sm4sh Remix
Dark World /Dark World Dungeon (ALttP) - Sm4sh Remix
Tal Tal Heights (Link's Awakening) - Brawl Remix
Song of Storms (OoT) - Brawl Remix
Gerudo Valley (OoT) - Original
Gerudo Valley (OoT) - Sm4sh Remix
Ocarina of Time Medley - Brawl Remix
Village of the Blue Maiden (Four Sword Adventures) - Brawl Remix
Termina Field (Majora's Mask) - Original
Ballad of the Goddess (Skyward Sword) - Original
 

NoKisum

Member
AH FUCK MY REPLAYS NOOOO!!!!!

I'll probably buy the full Mii Fighter pack this time. With the exception of Fox, everything looked pretty good to me this round.
 

Metal B

Member
I've been meaning to ask for a while, why do they bother making all these microscopic changes? 5 degrees angle change? 1% damage change on one hit of a move that doesn't matter to begin with? It's weird.
Changes in angles also changes your options after a attack. A small change can determine, if another attack can combo into another or not.

Damage changes sound small, but can influence the battle in the long run. The less damage a character is able dealing, the longer his opponent survives and has chances to flip the tables. For example Shiek, who is a combo master, can string a lot of attacks into another, but she doesn't do much damage with it. A character like Bowser has an easier time wracking up damage with less attacks. Also the knockback slightly difference through damage.
 

Metal B

Member
i've seen some stuff regarding this, but what are the broken moves?
Some moves look very strange, since the hit-boxes (the areas where the game determine a hit, if they overlap with an opponent) don't fit her animation. Also her standard-combo is designed to be bad, which is really strange and a top in the game.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
I'm just starved for new characters.
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Make you own. You can even play as Ryan from Wii Sports!

I can't help but feel these Mii costumes are the characters that got a lot of votes in the Ballot but not enough to compete for the actual character slot.

Dunno if that makes me worried or happy for Isaac though.
Technically a character could get one vote and be the winner if Sakurai thinks it the bee's knees of ideas.
 
The SMM theme remix is nice, but I could've gone for another Wind Waker remix.

Hell, Hyrule Warriors has some nice remixes of Zelda tunes they could've directly ripped.
 
Dragon Roost Island (Wind Waker) - Original
The Great Sea / Menu Select (Wind Waker) - Sm4sh Remix
The Legend of Zelda Medley (TLOZ/OoT) - Sm4sh Remix
Dark World /Dark World Dungeon (ALttP) - Sm4sh Remix
Tal Tal Heights (Link's Awakening) - Brawl Remix
Song of Storms (OoT) - Brawl Remix
Gerudo Valley (OoT) - Original
Gerudo Valley (OoT) - Sm4sh Remix
Ocarina of Time Medley - Brawl Remix
Village of the Blue Maiden (Four Sword Adventures) - Brawl Remix
Termina Field (Majora's Mask) - Original
Ballad of the Goddess (Skyward Sword) - Original

Are you shitting me? They didn't even bring back the original version of Great Sea for Pirate Ship? The Smash 4 remix is shit compared to the original, which was in Brawl, and obviously the most fitting music for that stage.
 

Ryce

Member
Pirate Ship! What a pleasant surprise. That was my most wanted Brawl stage. It never felt right that the Wii U version was missing a stage from the cel-shaded Zelda games. It's also great to see Duck Hunt in the 3DS version.
 
Viridi and Toad got costumes, so you guys know what this means. Sakurai saw them as popular characters that everyone was asking for and decided to hand out consolation prizes. Fox and Captain Falcon have been deconfirmed as well.
 
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