That is how reasonable works. Amazon offers this service and it exists for $99. This makes it reasonable (based on your definition as well).
It's pizza delivery but with Amazon stuff so yeah you need to tip
Need vs shouldTipping is a gratuity, not an obligation.
You do not need to tip.
We know the system by now. Anyone going on about "above and beyond" made that up for themselves to justify their behavior.Tipping is a gratuity, not an obligation.
You do not need to tip.
I'm kinda glad that young people especially are getting really mean about tipping because it is starting to drive change but at least admit that the person you are absolutely and demonstrably harming in the short term is the individual, not the "Man" or corporate America.
That's wrong and is just a silly attempt of customer blaming.
The company is hurting the poor delievery guy not the customer.
The company is hurting the poor delievery guy not the customer.
This is intellectual judo. You are not forced to use the service. You're party to hurting the driver too.
I don't like tipping. It's irritating and should be unnecessary.
But I'm not a cheapskate and I don't avoid responsibility for my half of the transaction.
The service that exists now, for $99/year, is not what the OP wants. If they offered the service, the way the OP wanted, this thread wouldn't exist. The question is whether what he wants is "reasonable" and simply wanting it, is not enough to make it "reasonable." Now, if other companies offer exactly what the OP wants, for the same or lower yearly fee, then he has a point.
You should absolutely tip, that's a large part of how the courier bringing you your order gets paid.
This is the service he wants, just not the billing structure. I don't believe the OP has stated otherwise. OP is also OK with a price increase. This thread wouldn't exist if they didn't ask for a tip. It became reasonable when Amazon put together this package. Other companies may charge more but within the spectrum of the offer it is reasonable to want the service you pay for.
Prime membership includes free 2-day shipping (and some other perks). That's what he paid for, with his membership. One of those perks is now the choice to use Prime Now, with the suggestion that you tip. If he's not comfortable with the suggestion that he tip, then his choices are: (1) Embrace the exploitation of the delivery person and use the service without tipping; or (2) If this extremely new feature was the reason he joined Prime, then cancel his membership.
Neither do I with fulfilling the contract I made with Amazon.
But they are being paid, and so is Amazon you massive dickhead.Yep. People should provide a service and not make money. Totally agree /s
Tipping is a gratuity, not an obligation.
You do not need to tip.
Customer blaming and self-inflated pride on your part. No one gets to dictate how others should spend their money.Let's not pretend that just because it's allowed to not tip, that you don't need to tip. If you are going to be a decent human being, you need to tip. You know better than to screw someone who is in this payment structure over.
Customer blaming and self-inflated pride on your part. No one gets to dictate how others should spend their money.
I don't feel that should be my problem. I already pay Amazon for Prime and it's a part of that $99/year.
No problem tipping at most other services I don't already pay a subscription to (valets, restaurants, pizza delivery, etc), but I don't feel that a method of delivery they are offering as part of my membership (which keeps incrasing in price, btw) should require a tip.
But they are being paid, and so is Amazon you massive dickhead.
I always find it hilarious that people who hate tipping and want it gone still use the damn services. They just stiff the worker instead of the company. What is wrong with people?
It shows you where the driver is and how far he/she has to go so its easy to see.
You're essentially measuring customer service with a tip so thats where youre evaluating performance. Thats the point of the tip.
If they fuck up too bad then dont pay them their tip. Otherwise pay the tip just like 15-20% is the norm at most restaurants, $5 dollars is the norm for this service.
And that's your right.
You're not stupid. You're not evil.
But you're also claiming you have no part in harming the delivery guy. Well if you use NOW and you're aware the drivers depend on tips, I don't know what to tell you.
Taking a sarcastic stance and acting like these drivers are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts is uncool. This is their job. If it isn't working for them they should consider something else.Amazon gets paid its normal amount, when you stiff the driver he gets almost nothing and may even lose money overall. Also I believe calling someone a massive dickhead for pointing out facts may be uncool.
Boo hoo. Get a different job if your life relies on people being guilted into "tipping" you.Amazon gets paid its normal amount, when you stiff the driver he gets almost nothing and may even lose money overall.
Of course I tipped. The package I ordered was delivered to my door in 2-hours, that's well and beyond the service I consider included in my prime membership (free 2-day shipping). Also, I think the tip is earned, by the pressure the driver is under, to make all their deliveries so quickly. I mean, its equivalent to tipping the pizza guy.
Real mature guy. You have no idea how much they're are making without tips, don't act like you do. And I guess you don't realize how much these people into wear and tear on their cars.But they are being paid, and so is Amazon you massive dickhead.
If a delivery-based job is wrecking their livelihood and is ultimately detrimental to their vehicles then it probably isn't for them and they should consider another line of employment.Real mature guy. You have no idea how much they're are making without tips, don't act like you do. And I guess you don't realize how much these people into wear and tear on their cars.
Still waiting to know how much the delivery people are paid
*Since no one reads:
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Not coming down one way or the other (don't have the service here), but, by definition, same day delivery is part of the service you're paying for and not "beyond" what's included in your prime membership. You're not paying an additional fee for it, are you?
Doesn't sound so bad. I'm guessing they don't compensate for your gas though.
At what point does a meme cease to be funny or even to add anything to the conversation?
You're posting a .GIF from a movie that is 23 years old.
Please stop.
If they're making $17-$25 before tips then my argument is invalid. Shit I'd quit my job and go there if that were the case, if they ever got it in stlEven after gas that would be far from needing to be tipped.
Boo hoo. Get a different job if your life relies on people being guilted into "tipping" you.
(Incoming "but the economy! :'( Jobs are hard to find!" whining)
Hell, after seeing that, I'd make that my new job also if it was in my area. I have a truck so I can load a lot of packages. lolIf they're making $17-$25 before tips then my argument is invalid. Shit I'd quit my job and go there if that were the case, if they ever got it in stl
Postmates has the same vague "$20-25 hour" promise. Look at the wording. Tips make up that assumed hourly total.Still waiting to know how much the delivery people are paid
*Since no one reads:
https://www.amazon.com/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/9/29/1425873/-Amazon-begins-the-Uber-ization-of-its-employees
Now if we add up all of the costs which Amazon has managed to offload onto the Flex driver (all the while convincing him/her that he or she is "empowered"), we get $1,484.32 per month for expenses.
So, from gross pay of $2,880.00 per month, the driver will actually have a net income of $1,395.68 after expenses. That works out to $8.72 per hour. In other words, about the same that Walmart is now paying as a starting wage for employees.
At what point does a meme cease to be funny or even to add anything to the conversation?
You're posting a .GIF from a movie that is 23 years old.
Please stop.
Yeah, I'm not saying that's what they make. But I don't think they are making federal tipping min wage of $3 in California and being compensated like so many people are assuming.Postmates has the same vague "$20-25 hour" promise. Look at the wording. Tips make up that assumed hourly total.
You can't find people talking openly about what they're making at Flex like you can with Postmates. I'm taking that as a red flag until I see otherwise.
Like, what? Even as a base minimum of $9 for when they want to work, it it probably higher from what it sounds like. For a part time gig or extra work that seems fine.Commercial vehicle insurance
If the driver were a full-time employee elsewhere, he or she could expect 2 weeks of paid vacation. Instead, the driver will have to save money to effectively pay him/herself for 2 weeks during the year: $120.00 per month.
As with vacation pay, the driver will be responsible for any time taken off due to illness. Let's allow 1 week per year, which the driver must save up in case it is needed: $60.00 per month.
A full-time employee could expect at least 7 paid holidays (Christmas, New Year, Memorial Day, Fourth of July, Labor Day, Veterans Day and Thanksgiving). The Flex driver will have to save for those holidays: $84.00 per month.
Unemployment benefits can't be calculated under this scenario easily. I will assume a driver should save 2 weeks of pay in order to have a small cushion to find another job in the event it is necessary: $120.00 per month.
This a much better post than your first where you called a bunch of people garbage.Take a stand where it actually matters. Don't use services from companies that have suggested tips. Don't stiff the damn independent contractors but still use the service and expect that somehow this country will change magically.
If they're making $17-$25 before tips then my argument is invalid. Shit I'd quit my job and go there if that were the case, if they ever got it in stl