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[DangerMouse]

Such is the way of fanboyism. The worst of it is being "disappointed" or having "deflated hype" when finding out that it might not be limited to just Playstation. Or any platform for that matter

What ever happened to being excited for the games rather than the clauses and restrictions they might be put under? I would have thought being as multiplatform as possible is more beneficial due to the larger audience and likely revenue, allowing for the justification of greater scope and scale for a game

Fanboyism may have something to do with it but you're missing the obvious. It's almost like the vast majority of his fans are in one place and have been on Playstation loving his games for over a decade...oh right, they have.
Who do you think are the majority most excited for his games?

 

[Purdy]

Hoping whoever employs him gets his game on as many platforms as possible, it'd be a shame if some people couldn't afford to enjoy his stuff, his team and him are the best.

 

[Kralamoonard]

You realize what forum you're on, right?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Just for the salt. I'd rather he go third party and release on all platform if you want an honest opinion from me.

Best wishes.

"Salt" is already evident by some in this thread and it's rumored to be on the most viable and successful platform.

 

[Spirited]

Fanboyism may have something to do with it but you're missing the obvious. It's almost like the vast majority of his fans are in one place and have been on Playstation loving his games for over a decade...oh right, they have.
Who do you think are the majority most excited for his games?

Even if what you say is the case why is those comments not just proof of fanboyism?

 

[Alucrid]

Just for the salt. I'd rather he go third party and release on all platform if you want an honest opinion from me.

Best wishes.

As a not doctor, I'll advise that you should already be watching your sodium levels

 

[Purdy]

Is it me or are people masturbating furiously at the prospect of his work being limited to Sony hardware?

I find it all a bit baffling to be honest.

Yep, I don't know what gaf was like this last gen but it's fucking diabolical since ps4 has been the better console in regards to this stuff.

 

[DangerMouse]

When you think about how much freedom sony gives its studios, its not hard to understand why ppl would want him there. Also his largest fanbase is on Playstation, thats not even a question at this point

The scenarios are:

A. Go to a 3rd party publisher like activision/ea/ubisoft. Where he might fall into another konami situation

B. Go to MS/Nintendo and leave his biggest fanbase (playstation) in the dust

C. Go independent, and not have the money to make a bigger budget game

Pretty much this.

At this point, I think he knows EVERYONE @_@

Damn. It really does seem like it LOL

 

[Hektor]

Fanboyism may have something to do with it but you're missing the obvious. It's almost like the vast majority of his fans are in one place and have been on Playstation loving his games for over a decade...oh right, they have.
Who do you think are the majority most excited for his games?

So?

 

[Mifune]

Such is the way of fanboyism. The worst of it is being "disappointed" or having "deflated hype" when finding out that it might not be limited to just Playstation. Or any platform for that matter

What ever happened to being excited for the games rather than the clauses and restrictions they might be put under? I would have thought being as multiplatform as possible is more beneficial due to the larger audience and likely revenue, allowing for the justification of greater scope and scale for a game

I'm surprised people don't understand that wanting Sony to get involved is about more than just fanboyism. Signing up with Sony means that Kojima would continue to make huge budget Japanese AAA console games, as he has done in the past. If people want a new franchise on the scale of MGS, then this is the best option. There are other Japanese options, of course, but this seems like the one that will most likely lead to that outcome.

I think people are afraid that he will go mobile or make low budget indie games more than they want him to go Sony exclusive, but Sony exclusivity would likely rule out those two. As would MS exclusivity or Nintendo exclusivity, but those are far less realistic options, seeing as Kojima has had a long, fruitful relationship with SCE, and SCE has the money to back him up.

 

[Purdy]

Fanboyism may have something to do with it but you're missing the obvious. It's almost like the vast majority of his fans are in one place and have been on Playstation loving his games for over a decade...oh right, they have.
Who do you think are the majority most excited for his games?

So it's even better it's PlayStation only? Get a grip, they want purchase validation and those who chose the other options to feel bad, it's pretty fucking dumb but funny

 

[Vamphuntr]

Really glad he got back on his feet quickly. Guess his non-compete finally expired. It's a great thing he won't be shackled to making Metal Gear games anymore as I can't wait to see what else he will come up with.

Just hoping he doesn't waste time making another engine that he'll use for a few games. Hopefully they use UE4 so they can develop games quicker.

 

[Rajang]

Kojimaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Yessss.

 

[Hatchtag]

I know right. Kojima is far superior to Miyamoto.

Completely different roles. Kojima's arguably a better director than Miyamoto, but Kojima doesn't produce much and just directs one game for years at a time. Miyamoto produces and supervises several different projects a year and hasn't actually directed a game since the Nintendo 64.

 

[Pranay]

Two things Kojima will benefit with Sony -
1- time to completely execute what he wants
2 - money

 

[DangerMouse]

So it's even better it's PlayStation only? Get a grip, they want purchase validation and those who chose the other options to feel bad, it's pretty fucking dumb but funny

I didn't say it had to be Playstation only, just that it shouldn't not be on Playstation. Like those people who just want salt with MS signing him. His biggest fanbase is there.

If working directly with Playstation is what it takes to get him the budget he needs for his types of games then he should be there since that's where his fanbase is.

 

[Barakov]

Excellent. Can't wait to see what comes out of this. I can definitely see SCE publishing whatever he's working on.

 

[Rajang]

 

[Hektor]

I didn't say it had to be Playstation only, just that it shouldn't not be on Playstation. Like those people who just want salt with MS signing him. His biggest fanbase is there.

But that is, what Nzyme32 was talking about.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Was hoping Microsoft would land a deal here.

That was a pipe dream.

 

[Momentary]

That's awesome that his next title is coming to PC as well. So good.

 

[protomouse]

You still suggested for companies to keep out because of what benefits "[you] as a gamer," to which I responded that they would not do that.

Yes. I believe my choice of words was "I'd rather they didn't" and not "they will never". There's nothing to argue about, no refutal to be made.

so if at the very least his next game comes out for PS4, whether it's exclusive or not, then I don't care about any other ports.

You and I see things a bit differently then.

 

[DangerMouse]

I'm surprised people don't understand that wanting Sony to get involved is about more than just fanboyism. Signing up with Sony means that Kojima would continue to make huge budget Japanese AAA console games, as he has done in the past. If people want a new franchise on the scale of MGS, then this is the best option. There are other Japanese options, of course, but this seems like the one that will most likely lead to that outcome.

I think people are afraid that he will go mobile or make low budget indie games more than they want him to go Sony exclusive, but Sony exclusivity would likely rule out those two. As would MS exclusivity or Nintendo exclusivity, but those are far less realistic options, seeing as Kojima has had a long, fruitful relationship with SCE, and SCE has the money to back him up.

This.

 

[NeloAnjelo]

So what if its a Playstation exclusive? The only Kojima games on Xbox were MGSV and the HD remasters... Unless I'm mistaken? It's Playstation owners since the PS1 that have bought and played all the MGS games. Kojima is synonymous with Playstation... he even
supported the PSP with MGS. This isn't gloating or entitlement, it's fact. Kojima also likes to focus on one platform first, and in over a decade this has been playstation.

Whatever he does and on whichever platform I wish him the best. Oh and #FuckKonami

 

[broncobuster]

Is it me or are people masturbating furiously at the prospect of his work being limited to Sony hardware?

I find it all a bit baffling to be honest.

Doesn't seem to be about limiting it to Sony hardware, on the contrary if anything. Scrubbing through this thread and reading rumors, PC is mentioned alongside PS4.

 

[ZarKryn7]

Debut? Sounds weird to me. I had an intuition before this story broke out that he was going make his own studio, collab with studio Japan just like From Software or Studio Dimps & Shift did, and have some exclusivity deal where at the end Sony would own those IP that Kojima and crew developed for em.

Also #FuckKonami

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

I know right. Kojima is far superior to Miyamoto.

I know this is a joke

It's sad ...both are great in different ways, yet one company values their genius while the other threw him away.

 

[funkystudent]

While we are console warrioring. What ever happened between Kojima and MS for the MGSV co marketing?

They wanted to push the next Metal Gear after 4 as a Xbox thing since Rising before that went off the rails but the relationship bounced back for MGSV and at first Kojima and MS where all over each other for TPP. The game was at MS's E3 a few times. Kojima was at the reveal of the XB1 and not the PS4 etc...


Then around the time the consoles launched Metal Gear returned to being the Sony focused thing and was at all the Sony events. P.T was a PS4 exclusive thing and Xbox was never mentioned for Silent Hills before it was cancelled.


That was weird. You dont see games switch marketing gears like that a lot.

 

[Samurai G0SU]

im not suprised to see this on full steam.
but suprised it went into a console warz on kojima? wtf?

man ... im sorry kojima, you deserve more respect no matter where you publish your game, even if it ends up only on 1. idealy it would be awesome to see it on multiple, but money gotta do what money gotta do.

 

[wachie]

You realize what forum you're on, right?

The persecution complex is strong in this post.

 

[Spirited]

Debut? Sounds weird to me. I had an intuition before this story broke out that he was going make his own studio, collab with studio Japan just like From Software or Studio Dimps & Shift did, and have some exclusivity deal where at the end Sony would own those IP that Kojima and crew developed.

I don't think he wants another company to own his IPs anymore after konami controversy.

 

[Boomshaw]

"Final negotiations with SCE are underway for this new game to debut on PlayStation."

Ugggghhhh....wheres the xbox love Kojima? Or better yet, Nintendo love?

 

[Nzyme32]

Fanboyism may have something to do with it but you're missing the obvious. It's almost like the vast majority of his fans are in one place and have been on Playstation loving his games for over a decade...oh right, they have.
Who do you think are the majority most excited for his games?

Well not from the friends I have, that range from all sorts of backgrounds and platforms. Personally though I'm a PC user now - I was a PC user when I played MGS 1 and 2 when they launched on the platform, I played Substance when it launched on the Xbox, I played MGS 3, 4 and Peace Walker on PS3 at the beginning of the year since that was the first opportunity I had to play them, I played MGS GZ and TPP on PC.

I'm surprised people don't understand that wanting Sony to get involved is about more than just fanboyism. Signing up with Sony means that Kojima would continue to make huge budget Japanese AAA console games, as he has done in the past. If people want a new franchise on the scale of MGS, then this is the best option. There are other Japanese options, of course, but this seems like the one that will most likely lead to that outcome.

I think people are afraid that he will go mobile or make low budget indie games more than they want him to go Sony exclusive, but Sony exclusivity would likely rule out those two. As would MS exclusivity or Nintendo exclusivity, but those are far less realistic options, seeing as Kojima has had a long, fruitful relationship with SCE, and SCE has the money to back him up.

No.

The whole reason MGS V could be as grandiose as it was, was due to being multiplatform. The wider audience and greater possibility of high revenue allow for games to be so much larger. It is why you don't see many third parties do console exclusivity these days, and similarly why you see less exclusive first party games purely because games take a lot longer to develop and have greater expense. It is why you see so many "exclusive games" that are both on a console and PC, again for the wider audience and increased revenue that can bring to justify larger scale and scope for games. Being restricted to any single platform will only bring a "AAA" game that is limited in it's scope over something like GTA V or MGS V, since it won't be profitable enough to justify.

 

[cheezcake]

inb4 horror project w/ Del Toro funded and published exclusively for Oculus Rift.

 

[Fat4all]

While we are console warrioring. What ever happened between Kojima and MS for the MGSV co marketing?

They wanted to push the next Metal Gear after 4 as a Xbox thing since Rising before that went off the rails but the relationship bounced back for MGSV and at first Kojima and MS where all over each other for TPP. The game was at MS's E3 a few times. Kojima was at the reveal of the XB1 and not the PS4 etc...


Then around the time the consoles launched Metal Gear returned to being the Sony focused thing and was at all the Sony events.


That was weird. You dont see games switch marketing gears like that a lot.

Konami in general hasn't been all that on-top-of-things when it came to marketing their games.

They were lucky to have Kojima make fucking awesome trailers for the MGS games.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Fanboyism may have something to do with it but you're missing the obvious. It's almost like the vast majority of his fans are in one place and have been on Playstation loving his games for over a decade...oh right, they have.
Who do you think are the majority most excited for his games?

That doesn't give people an excuse to be disappointed that the game may not be exclusive lol It's not like it's going to skip PlayStation. It's pure fanboyism.

 

[krackerjack]

So where's he at now? Sony, independent, or unknown? I can't keep up with the thread at work!

 

[Killroyskbg]

Well if this rumor of him going with Sony is true I guess it is both understandable and wise for both parts. Kojimas fanbase is strongest on Playstation (since PS1). The studio while clearly competent still need funding and going multiplat might not provide the initial income needed to get going. Sony from what I heard let thier studios pretty much decide themselves what they want to work on to a high degree which I bet Kojima surely wants after all this.

And if the game would be exclusive at least it will probably sell the most as a PS one and the same goes for multiplat but first on Playstation. I just hope if it is PS exclusive/debut that they dont bury the game in the crowded fall like MS did with Tomb Raider since low sales beacause of game saturation would not be good for a new studio even with Kojima in it.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

While we are console warrioring. What ever happened between Kojima and MS for the MGSV co marketing?

They wanted to push the next Metal Gear after 4 as a Xbox thing since Rising before that went off the rails but the relationship bounced back for MGSV and at first Kojima and MS where all over each other for TPP. The game was at MS's E3 a few times. Kojima was at the reveal of the XB1 and not the PS4 etc...


Then around the time the consoles launched Metal Gear returned to being the Sony focused thing and was at all the Sony events.


That was weird. You dont see games switch marketing gears like that a lot.

That secret sauce GPU never panned out

 

[N.Domixis]

Was hoping Microsoft would land a deal here.

Why would anyone want that? The majority of the fanbase is on playstation

 

[Bolivar687]

"Final negotiations with SCE are underway for this new game to debut on PlayStation."

Ugggghhhh....wheres the xbox love Kojima? Or better yet, Nintendo love?

They don't buy his games.

 

[mejin]

That doesn't give people an excuse to be disappointed that the game may not be exclusive lol It's not like it's going to skip PlayStation. It's pure fanboyism.

Pure fanboyism x Pure salt

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[Last Prime]

"Kojima is a world famous video game developer on the same level as Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto, the creator of Mario."

Kojima is good but I don't think he is on the same level as Shigeru Miyamoto.

 

[Spoo]

inb4 horror project w/ Del Toro funded and published exclusively for Oculus Rift.

This makes the most sense to me. Probably a lot of angst over not being able to complete Silent Hills, but moreover they know what they did with PT was pretty big, and had a ton of potential, and they can't mess up whatever they do next -- getting Del Toro on board, and a big Rift/PS VR experience going would make significant headlines, especially if it's a horror project. Personally I feel like VR needs a project like that to actually take off; if it's true Xbox One isn't in the cards immediately, it'd probably be because the XO VR solution isn't tuned for the same experiences, and they'd have to figure out how to take advantage of it. Probably best to start with PC/PS4, then figure out what has to change along the way for other platform(s).

 

[AlucardGV]

That doesn't give people an excuse to be disappointed that the game may not be exclusive lol It's not like it's going to skip PlayStation. It's pure fanboyism.

people don't need excuses, they can do whatever they want.

 

[Kindekuma]

Spiritual successor to Silent Hills starring Norman Reedus and Mads Mikkelsen directed by Kojima and Del Toro, when?

 

[Guri]

I don't care which platform(s) his next game will be on. I just hope it will be Silent Hills with another brand.

 

[jaypah]

The persecution complex is strong in this post.

The reality is the PS4 is the heavily favored console in the marketplace. This is a forum of gamers. Expecting things to be equal would be crazy. I'm not saying Xbox or Nintendo fans aren't welcome here but there is an obviously greater amount of support for PS. People can feel however they want about that part but people didn't all gang up and decide to buy PS4 just to fuck up the forum. It's just reality and how the market works.

 

[Azzanadra]

Pure fanboyism x Pure salt

neogaf.gif

Might also be that Sony could grant him the resources and room for creative vision. I mean, I would never expect MS or Nintendo to allow games like The Last Guardian or SoTC to exist, let alone revive after 10 years of development or whatever.

 

[JCreasy]

I'd be surprised if they used an existing engine instead of building their own. That just seems to be what makes them most comfortable.

I think it's clear that Unreal Engine 4 is more advanced than the FOX Engine. Unless Sony can lend his team some internal resources to help create a new engine (which I seriously doubt considering he will be going multiplatform one day), Unreal Engine 4 would be his smartest bet.

It will take years to build a brand-new engine from the ground up for modern consoles. Time is expensive, especially for a Start up. He will need to find ways to cut dev time in order to pay his people. He can run out of cash real quick.