Hamill recorded that line specifically for the trailer.
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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That's the point, though.
All the other Storm Troopers conformed. He ended up rebelling. It was inside him all along.
Maybe he just wanted to beat the shit out of him the good old fashioned way.
WrenchNinja
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It's like some bleach shit. I'm just going to hit you harder and faster is what she did. I thought she was gonna do something force-y
Why didn't Kylo Ren force push Han Solo off the ledge?
Before 20k posts, I believe.
Subpar Spatula
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Well, they showed force powers earlier when it suited the story. Why gimp him at the end? Because he required to lose. He would have dummied both but they write him not to. He force pushed her with a blaster shot as well. He could have done it again.
It's bad writing.
his armor is different than stormtroopers. it's more flexible and sleek. i think it's more cosmetic because he's overconfident and think he doesn't need much - considering he can stop blaster shots mid-air.
Plus Chewy's bow is super heavy duty now.
that sucks. I don't like that at all.
Trailers are already way too misleading with cutting together sentences. Adding a line not even canon or in the movie is bullshit.
CrowdChant
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Like what are you even saying here about assuming? I'm speculating. Isn't that what we are doing here? Discussing things from the movie and speculating on what some of it means?
Bobby Roberts
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I'll probably just do it now, then.
Raitosaito
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It's not suppose to help. He's mentally unstable and is trying to cope with feeling like he has no control of the situation with Rey.
Why didn't Vader choke Luke to death at the end of RotJ?
Bullshit. A female lead is not immune to criticism just because she's female.
If her character has problems we can criticize them, and there were problems. No one would dare say any of this if she was executed like Ellen Ripley, but she wasn't.
bananafactory
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Usually the old threads just die by themselves when the new one goes up. But may not be a bad idea to have it locked
Using the force requires concentration though. Throughout the whole movie they show that Kylo is easily upset and pretty unfocused compared to previous sith and jedi. Seeing Finn with the lightsaber pushed him over the edge after an already difficult day filled with failure and emotion.
No he didn't, that's from Return of the Jedi.
Remember. The saber didn't react to Kylo.
In the scene when it was pulled, it hesitated, and then flew into Rey's hand.
There was some Force within it. Don't you remember when Rey first touched it?
It is in Jedi, but it was revealed during production that the line was rerecorded in the new order by him just for the trailer. It's not taken straight from RotJ.
He already Force Pushed Rey into a tree.
Why don't they just shoot the guns out of their hands?
Subpar Spatula
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It's not speculating on good evidence, it's just speculating with giant hoops to make things fit.
Wanted Luke evil. No hint that Ren wanted Rey to be on his side until he asks which is the end of the fight. Say it before and him going easy makes sense.
You assume that he can even pull off a force heal.
Isn't the force exclusive to living beings? I interpreted it as Rey having a stronger connection to the force at that moment.
I took that scene as they both tried to pull it at the same time and she just overpowered him for it. Not that it didn't react at all to Kylo.
That was before Finn lit the saber.
He pulled it out after Rey got pushed into the tree.
no, it's not.
Hah even Finn got a couple hits on him. Finn earlier got rekt in CQC by a regular stormtrooper.
I wonder if same people who give Marvel stick for a weak Ultron are okay with this.
LegalEagleMike
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well Snoke did tell Kylo to bring Rey to him.
Psychoward
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there were like 5 of them on each side he would have gotten lit up if he shot first this time
Nemesis121
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[SPOILERS] |OT2| Star Wars:Hope Awakens, BB-8 Thumb Up..
The answer is always "hindsight is 20/20"
Kylo was unstable and kind of a fuck up. He just killed his dad, was bleeding, out of control. Who knows what he was thinking at that point, but just because you can doesnt mean you always do the right move at the right time. For all we know he sees lukes saber and just becomes fixated on it and just lashes out. Again, Kylo was shown multiple times throughout the movie to be irrational.
bananafactory
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Limited skill slots. Being an edgelord he would never be caught dead equipping a healing ability.
Subpar Spatula
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As what? All he knows is Snoke wants Rey there. Not explained. You're just speculating. It's not even visually explained so you're rolling the dice.
LookAtMeGo
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I just found him randomly but I find his reviews to be very in depth and well articulated. If I could summarize my thoughts about TFA, it would almost be word for word this review.
It's Star Wars writing. It makes for a fun movie.
FlashbladeGAF
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Kylo throws temper tantrums, he gets very emotional, and he probably wanted to torture the traitor stormtrooper personally, since he was the reason everything ended up the way it did.
Because of Fin they lost the pilot, they lost the droid, and the resistance is on their doorstep. If Fin had just been a good stormtrooper, kylo may not have had to kill his dad that day.
Oh, I heard the very quiet echoes in the background was the new recording. Huh.
Could be there were "fingerprints" left on it.
That, too.
She didn't even know what "the Force" was at the time, but she was quickly adapting to it.
The temper tantrum he throws when the storm troopers just turn around...
TheOctodad
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Del Toro dropping that truth bomb.
brandonh83
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Rewatched it and I think it's at least on par with Empire and slightly better in some ways. The actors really do it for me. Adam Driver is goddamned amazing around the end.
LegalEagleMike
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I think its pretty logical to conclude that Snoke wants to turn her to the dark side if shes as powerful in the force as Kylo suggests. Not really a big leap there. Mirrors the entire saga you know.
Subpar Spatula
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OK? Being "fun" makes it immune to criticism? Or it's just silly for people to critique a fun movie?
Maybe Snoke wanted Rey to lure Skywalker in? Maybe Snoke thought Rey knew where Luke is since she's force sensitive? Their goal is to find him. At least my speculation is supported by what is said in the movies.
Naughty_Doge
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SixMachine
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Force Drain like a pro but he's obviously a scrub.
Got the Force Speed ability though. Is Beam Holding under the Dark or Light Side skill tree?
bananafactory
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Oh really? I didn't realize that. Surprised how young he sounds in the VO - I guess they edited it.
that's not the line. and it's not the same recording. and also Leia isn't seen by Luke in TFA. None of it follows at all.
Also Luke doesn't say a word in TFA.
Psychoward
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isn't it also a Light Side power? would have taken more Force Power than normal if Kotor taught me anything
speaking of Force Powers, was anyone else expecting Rey - after the word Force was brought up by Ren - to fall off in to the rift and then Force jump her way back to safety and that's when the "awakening" would happen? thought for sure that's what JJ was gonna do. Kinda disappointed all she got from it was some better slashing
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