Chaotic-Strike
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I think it would be hard to be ninja's when your like 10ft tall and have clunky gear on.
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TMNT: Mutants in Manhattan (Platinum Games) art.
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I think it would be hard to be ninja's when your like 10ft tall and have clunky gear on.
Well...to be fair. The Fred Wolf toon did try to give the guys a modicum of distinctive character as time went on. From Leo being an obsessive/compulsive sort of individual (which often was the direct antithesis of being a good, responsible leader, like when he got obsessed with an arcade game), to Mikey digging comic books (which is what led to various eps involving Bugman), Donatello being the genius (which even had him using Irma as a surrogate to get into college) to Raphael being the wise-ass that landed him in a variety of situations, such as when he met Mona Lisa, the salamander girl who was never seen again after one ep (and yet was enough that people wanted to force the romance angle between two new versions of the chars in the Nick series...*BARF*).
The problem was, as could be expected for a syndicated series like this one, characterization varied from ep to ep. Chars learned lessons, but were forgotten the next. The guys never acted like a family unit anyway, so it was hard to care about any interaction between the four and Splinter otherwise. And by the time they tried to make things more compelling with the likes of the final Red Sky seasons, it was largely too late. Most kids had already moved on to watching Power Rangers and those who were left didn't like the abrupt change in the show's tone.
Yet, this is the show that still endures as the "standard" for the TMNT for a lot of people. And so long as Viacom is insistent on modeling their current movies and toons after it, it's little wonder why the TMNT will never have a chance of going toe to toe with the likes of WB-DC and Batman, or with Disney-Marvel and the MCU. The brand's never going to be taken seriously.
Labolas
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chromatic9
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As a 36 year old the original cartoon, film and arcade game was what the Turtles are to me and I didn't follow it during the late 90s 2000s. I'd be interested in the sales figures of the early comics, seems as though people are trying to rewrite history.
Nobody's trying to rewrite history - it's impossible to deny the 80s cartoon made TMNT mainstream, no matter how big the comics might have been - but the quality of that cartoon is not good. It does NOT hold up at all.
And besides that, TMNT has changed, so holding on to the 80s cartoon does the modern audience no good.
And besides that, TMNT has changed, so holding on to the 80s cartoon does the modern audience no good.
Rewrite history how?
To most people, the MCU is all they know of Marvel characters. Does that somehow invalidate the comics that have come before and will continue on after?
petran79
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tbh I liked only the design by the Japanese studio Toei, not the other asian and western studios. Same for most other shows really: Rescue Ranger, Duck Tales, Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Ghost Buster, Batman the Animated Series etc
Too bad they only did the first 5 episodes, which were the best and most memorable really
a lot of detail for a robot. Technodrome was very well designed as well
TMS also animated some later episodes. Eg the mecha robot in Turtles on Trial is not typicaly seen outside of Japanese animation
chromatic9
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Not sure what you're saying, perhaps you've just proved my point
Anyway. I really dig this that was posted a few pages back
Since I'm not a true fan it's all good. They should try to go that hardest core growing up in the 2000s or those comic book readers.
Neff
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Absolutely. The show was junk, but the first five episodes were legit.
GuitarAtomik
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I think you should just clarify what you mean by "rewrite history". I don't think anyone would argue that the Turtles first got mainstream popularity and have never been bigger than the 80's cartoon era. Most people are just saying that the 80s version wasn't the be all end all of TMNT, the franchise has moved on since then and improved in all kinds of directions, and the 80s version isn't nearly as relevant to today's kids as the modern incarnations are and that's cool because they're better takes on the franchise.
We obviously need the Mecha-teenage mutant ninja turtles
Why'd you have to remind me that these guys exist ( .__.)
eyeball_kid
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Say what? I had the game as a kid but don't remember any derogatory content like that. Regardless it was a fun pen & paper. I'd love to see an RPG in the TMNT universe.
Unfortunately, it was a thing in the Palladium ruleset. Loved the game too, but I remember pulling out a PDF for old time's sake and was just taken aback by such things that were clearly could only be described as "a product of its time".
Anyway, it does remind me that a new pen & paper tabletop rpg, citing the IDW Turtles-verse, is coming out soon.
dragonzdogma
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My preference is the cute faced turtles. Like these:
But I'm not that into TMNT so it's probably not in line with what real fans want.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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lmao what
Sebastiano
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How violent are the comics by IDW? I know the game is rated M in Australia, so Pegi 16 or T for Teen, that promises a minimum of violence and blood, no?
The 80's turtle already had their god tier videogame with Konami Beat em up ones.
Let the other incarnations have their fun =P
Let the other incarnations have their fun =P
Not sure what you're saying, perhaps you've just proved my point
Anyway. I really dig this that was posted a few pages back
Since I'm not a true fan it's all good. They should try to go that hardest core growing up in the 2000s or those comic book readers.
It's about par with Mirage's, in a number of ways. Some blood, mild swearing and there are a few grisly deaths either implied or even shown.
I'd be surprised if any of those actually ended up in a TMNT game, IDW-based or not. But I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.
spindashing
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Wait a god damned minute...
The IDW comics even have Mondo Gecko? Yoo...
The IDW comics even have Mondo Gecko? Yoo...
My preference is the cute faced turtles. Like these:
But I'm not that into TMNT so it's probably not in line with what real fans want.
Did you said CUTE FACED TURTLES ???
"Half-Shell Heroes: Blast to the Past" platinum game please
Sebastiano
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Oh, that would be cool to see in a game! Not a gore or swearing hardcore fan but I always wanted to play a more violent TMNT game.
Activision, what are you waiting for? Reveal the damn game already!
entremet
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Most people into the hard nostalgia of the series have it for the 87 series.
Neff
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And I can see where they're coming from. It's not only incredibly evocative of an era, but all of the mainstream success TMNT enjoyed, and the franchise's peak in general- the games, the movies, the toys, etc- it all stemmed from the cartoon.
It was never anything more than cynical, merchandising gold, mind-rotting waffle, and anyone familiar with the franchise can tell that the real genius was in the books (and later the first movie). Hell, I was too old for the cartoon myself when it first aired, but damn if that intro and song don't get me goosebumpy even now.
That Brown Guy
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Well I bought the volume 1 collection of the IDW comic because of this thread.
entremet
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Not to mention all the those excellent Konami games that were based on that style.
Chaotic-Strike
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The Konami games were better than the actual show. There's a reason I remembered this Slash over the cartoon version when I was a kid..
All I need for this game is 4 player online co-op with selectable characters in a 2-D beat em up style.
All I need for this game is 4 player online co-op with selectable characters in a 2-D beat em up style.
This guy is the true hero of the thread.
Awesome. Hope you enjoy it!
The Konami games were better than the actual show. There's a reason I remembered this Slash over the cartoon version when I was a kid..
As time went on and towards the end of their original TMNT run, Konami started using designs from the figure line and the Archie run.
And thankfully so, because the Slash designs they used in Manhattan Project and Turtles in Time were wholly superior over the one used in the Fred Wolf toon.
Boss Doggie
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Except for the fact that the first movie
- gave definitive personalities to the characters (Raphael especially)
- didn't turn Shredder into a fodder
- was more down-to-earth
- had actual human foot soldiers
- used their weapons
- used only superfluous elements of the cartoon but is actually using the comic's concept
even with TMNT2 with all of the "kiddie-fying" it managed to keep the mutation origin intact and still had people beating the shit out of each other
Err, pretty sure a non-Marvel fan nowadays will refer to the MCU for Marvel.
MisterHero
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Shredder died in like the first issue of the Mirage series. Then he got replaced by a bunch of clones. Turtles Forever made fun of him.
You're taking this "following the comics" thing a little too seriously
Head.spawn
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Digging the style.
After the last movies design, literally anything seems better, but this actually looks like it wouldn't be out of place in the comic realm.
After the last movies design, literally anything seems better, but this actually looks like it wouldn't be out of place in the comic realm.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
There's a reason I separated the "it followed the comic's concept" bulletpoint, and make it a point to call it a "concept"
I mean, I shouldn't be the one who you should be lecturing about Shredder in Mirage. Look at my previous posts about him.
The "Ultrom Shredder is a sweet meta reference to him being a human sucks (barring Movie)" post.
I'll admit i only knew about it due to the Cracked.com article that mentioned it (at work at the moment, so can't link the specific article) but there is a scan of the pertinent ruling about this, basically if your character sufered a hard enough concusion, the damage would make you develop a fetish, you had to roll for the effect from a table that included all possible "fetishes" you'd get from your concusion (with detailed explanations of it) and it included "Homosexuality".
Please note, these are the words used by the rulebook, not me, and yes it was indeed embarrassing when seen with the eyes of our modern times, not to mention weird to include in something based on the 80's cartoon.
I mean, it's TMNT! What the hell is this FATAL caliber bullshit?
NightShift
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I don't know if this has already been posted. Aparently the turtles have been released as playable characters in Pro Skater 5. These may be what they look like in the Platinum game.
https://youtu.be/31VCTwgo7bY
https://youtu.be/31VCTwgo7bY
eyeball_kid
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Thanks, I don't remember that at all; can't imagine something that bad would make it into a major franchise today. Though that TMNT game was based on the Mirage comics, not the cartoon, so it wasn't that popular yet and I'm guessing Eastman didn't have editorial review (or didn't care enough to read through the book). He doesn't exactly have a strong history of protecting the 'integrity' of the TMNT IP.
I think half of my time with that game was just spent creating ridiculous mutant animals.
Seven Force
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The Konami games were better than the actual show. There's a reason I remembered this Slash over the cartoon version when I was a kid..
That reminds me, whoever Konami hired to do the boxart for the TMNT games (Most of their 16 bit games, really; But TMNT especially) did a fan-fucking-tastic job with those designs:
ninjablade
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That looks horrible
That is ... totaly the santolouco designs. Weird
comedy bomb
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G.I.Joe did it twice in the original run.
ChosenPredator
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good i like this art style i don't want it anything like the 80s cartoon because of the transformers one,
so im happy :3
so im happy :3
NinjamicWZ
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You're thinking of comic books in video game terms. The early comics were independent and low print. They were reprinted a ton, but first printings command ridiculous money now. The comics sold great during the TMNT era you remember. Technically it's still going today while every other iteration has passed.
I can't imagine any kid who had TMNT fever during that era that didn't learn it was a comic first, that it was created by Eastman and Laird, that they all had red headbands etc
AmethystEnd
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This looks awesome. Echoing what others have said:
I grew up loving the 80s cartoon but holy shit, I don't want those designs back ever and the cartoon itself is so bad now when I've tried to rewatch it. Good riddance.
I grew up loving the 80s cartoon but holy shit, I don't want those designs back ever and the cartoon itself is so bad now when I've tried to rewatch it. Good riddance.
The Broken Ska Record
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Not necessarily. Especially how retail games have digital counterparts.
Although if it's on the store, I wonder how close to completion it is.
Artwork uploaded to the store, ratings in Australia and Brazil, I'll say the game is less than a few months away, which suggests a very short marketing cycle.
The Broken Ska Record
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It seems like these Platinum licensed games are quick to manufacture. Didn't Transformers get leaked around June and released in October?
It was leaked just before E3, where it was formally announced, yes.
NinjamicWZ
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