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Microsoft announces ReCore also coming to PC, now releasing "2016"

They could lose subscribers (obviously if they don't have GWG for PC as well) but it could make it up in revenue from games sold in the store. The long term goal is to have people buy from the store. Also, what people don't realize is that buying from the Xbox store on XBO is the same store they are buying from on PC. So to MS, if you have a console or a PC, they getting money. Obviously they get more with Xbox Live subscribers from XBO. I'm sure they will somehow figure out how to get that going. People do rent servers for PC games...they have Azure, seems like a natural fit to me if I was MS.

Yeah I'm sure that eventually MS will figure out how to make everything work in the end. Just don't think we'll see those big guns folk are looking like Halo for until things get sorted out in respect to Gold.
 
I assume ReCore is single player.

I wouldn't buy a game I wanted to play in multiplayer which was bound to any service MS provides.
Im hoping single player, but its weird for microsoft to being willing to announce a PC version this early. I feel like it has to have some kind of multiplayer/microtransactions for microsoft to want to jump it to PC quickly
 

kadotsu

Banned
Im hoping single player, but its weird for microsoft to being willing to announce a PC version this early. I feel like it has to have some kind of multiplayer/microtransactions for microsoft to want to jump it to PC quickly

Nah, this is just this decade's half assed push to show that the games division cares about PC. Last time we got Viva Pinata and Gears out of it, in addition to the shitiest bloatware to grace PC titles ever.
 

Trago

Member
So they really are going in with the Windows Store.

No Steam release then :(

No matter, I was close to pulling the trigger on an Xbox One when this came out, so lucky me.
 
But if you have access to your same games, friends list, achievements and all that but with the added benefit of no cost for live it can be an appealing offer. At least one that you have to figure Microsoft is very aware of.

Like I said there is no guarantee Xbox users will start migrating in droves to PC but when you are dealing with a, assumedly big source of revenue for Xbox, you don't want to take a big jump like launching big multiplayer games like Halo 5 day-and-date on PC and end up in a situation where you have lost a good number of your subscribers.

You know what isn't an appealing offer? Having to drop at least $500 to get a PC equivalent to a console to save $60 a year. Like I said, the majority of people on consoles are the kinds of people that wouldn't bother with a PC in the first place. They're the kind of people that buy 2-3 games a year, those usually being games like CoD, AC, and FIFA. They will be more than fine staying on the Xbox.

Like for example with friends, even if you are able to keep your friends list, it's a pretty big assumption to make that even if we got all MS games day-and-date on PC, there would be cross-platform play with Xbox for multiplayer. Not being able to play with said friends is a pretty big deterrent. Also, as far as I'm aware, you still can't talk to people on Xbox from PC unless you use Skype, so that would be another issue.

Of course there will be some who would migrate, you know, the kinds of people that post on internet gaming forums, but that's a tiny minority of people.

That's not to say your premise is wrong, I just think you're overestimating the amount of people that would migrate in this potential scenario. And even still, having these games opens up markets worldwide where the Xbox virtually has no presence, but PC gaming does, which could make up for lost revenue, but that's a whole other discussion.

Regardless, none of this stops single-player games coming to the Windows store.

I assume ReCore is single player.

I wouldn't buy a game I wanted to play in multiplayer which was bound to any service MS provides.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of with Gears. It being on the Windows store, I'm hoping the multiplayer isn't DOA.
 

Mexen

Member
Just looked it up since I had no idea what it was about. Looks pretty interesting, something I would probably play.
 
You know what isn't an appealing offer? Having to drop at least $500 to get a PC equivalent to a console to save $60 a year. Like I said, the majority of people on consoles are the kinds of people that wouldn't bother with a PC in the first place. They're the kind of people that buy 2-3 games a year, those usually being games like CoD, AC, and FIFA. They will be more than fine staying on the Xbox.

Like for example with friends, even if you are able to keep your friends list, it's a pretty big assumption to make that even if we got all MS games day-and-date on PC, there would be cross-platform play with Xbox for multiplayer. Not being able to play with said friends is a pretty big deterrent. Also, as far as I'm aware, you still can't talk to people on Xbox from PC unless you use Skype, so that would be another issue.

Of course there will be some who would migrate, you know, the kinds of people that post on internet gaming forums, but that's a tiny minority of people.

That's not to say your premise is wrong, I just think you're overestimating the amount of people that would migrate in this potential scenario. And even still, having these games opens up markets worldwide where the Xbox virtually has no presence, but PC gaming does, which could make up for lost revenue, but that's a whole other discussion.

Regardless, none of this stops single-player games coming to the Windows store.



This is exactly what I'm afraid of with Gears. It being on the Windows store, I'm hoping the multiplayer isn't DOA.

You can party chat from Xbox -> PC and vice-versa. I also think that if we're playing with the idea of all MS games being day-and-date releases it is not that much further of a stretch to think that those games would be cross-play considering MS has plenty of upcoming titles that will support that feature. The only game that I can recall that was confirmed not to have cross-play was Gears:UE which they have since walked back on saying that it is not confirmed one way or the other.

Again, I don't think that an insane amount of folk would move over but that is something you can't walk back on if you are wrong. Can't just throw a fee on PC or stop supporting the store and expect all those users to come back to Xbox.
 

neurosyphilis

Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
I assume ReCore is single player.

I wouldn't buy a game I wanted to play in multiplayer which was bound to any service MS provides.

This is Microsoft and the Xbox we're talking about here. It's bound to have some type of multiplayer weather that be something ambitious or something just tacked on. When do we ever see a MS game/exclusive where the main focus isn't multiplayer ? Maybe Remedy games, but that's it.
 

Zedox

Member
So ReCore is cross-buy? No complaints from me since I own a PC and XB1.

It's not confirmed. I would base it being so on what Phil Spencer has been talking about with bringing your games everywhere (I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread). I would presume so though.
 

pixelation

Member
I wouldn't be surprised if most of them release on PC at some point.

Same here. I've really no need to purchase an XBO at all it would seem. Also IF they make another gaming console, will they keep up the same strategy?, it takes the appeal out of getting their box.
 

Zedox

Member
didn't know Sea of Thieves was coming to PC, nice.

Yep. 8 games will be coming to PC.

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I'm pretty excited for all the new people I get to demolish online. :)

pixilation said:
Same here. I've really no need to purchase an XBO at all it would seem. Also IF they make another gaming console, will they keep up the same strategy?, it takes the appeal out of getting their box.

Yes, they would make another console. Not everyone will game on their PC. Some people will game on console, some on PC. No reason to stop making consoles.
 

Chobel

Member
Only now I noticed "Steam" mentioned in Cobalt platforms. So I guess the rest won't come to Steam? Even Ori DE?
 
You can party chat from Xbox -> PC and vice-versa. I also think that if we're playing with the idea of all MS games being day-and-date releases it is not that much further of a stretch to think that those games would be cross-play considering MS has plenty of upcoming titles that will support that feature. The only game that I can recall that was confirmed not to have cross-play was Gears:UE which they have since walked back on saying that it is not confirmed one way or the other.

Again, I don't think that an insane amount of folk would move over but that is something you can't walk back on if you are wrong. Can't just throw a fee on PC or stop supporting the store and expect all those users to come back to Xbox.

Wait, really? Are you sure about that?

As far as cross-platform play goes, I guess it just depends on the game. Something like KI or a potential Forza, sure. With shooters though? Seems like they would avoid it because of the advantage PC players would have, which is probably we're not getting a straight answer with Gears. But I also remember something about them saying they can detect whether someone is using a controller or not on PC and matching people based on that, so that could be a solution.
 
This was never going to be Spring when they revealed it with a CGI trailer and didn't show any gameplay or even screenshots in the 5+ months that followed. Always seemed fishy.
 

Zedox

Member
Wait, really? Are you sure about that?

As far as cross-platform play goes, I guess it just depends on the game. Something like KI or a potential Forza, sure. With shooters though? Seems like they would avoid it because of the advantage PC players would have, which is probably we're not getting a straight answer with Gears. But I also remember something about them saying they can detect whether someone is using a controller or not on PC and matching people based on that, so that could be a solution.

Yes, you can do that now. You can party chat with other Xbox players through the Xbox app.
 

Miles X

Member
Sure looks like it.

Also, ReCore has always been a 2016 release. Unless you mean it's no longer "Spring" 2016, which was always a completely ridiculous thing to believe. I don't for a second think MS was being honest with that date.

Same, which is really annoying, they need to stop with the BS and be honest about this sort of thing.
 

Chobel

Member
I noticed it too and wondered about Ori, not sure that will go down well

As long as people who got it from steam can buy the DLC separately, I don't see the issue.

However it just feels weird that Ori:DE will be exclusive to Win 10 and Windows Store, when the original release was available in Windows 7 (and higher) and Steam.

Sure looks like it.

Also, ReCore has always been a 2016 release. Unless you mean it's no longer "Spring" 2016, which was always a completely ridiculous thing to believe. I don't for a second think MS was being honest with that date.
Same, which is really annoying, they need to stop with the BS and be honest about this sort of thing.
They gain absolutely nothing by lying about the release date of ReCore, so I'm not sure why do you think they lied about it.
 

Sydle

Member
Nice, I think this topic deserves it's own thread...since this one is already derailed (but for good reason). Good post.

Thanks. I've thought about it before and it's just way too much reading to expect of GAF to first get the big picture and then have a meaningful discussion about its potential implications. Then there is the inevitable shift to list wars and I just don't care to see another one of those threads.

The bottom line is it's crystal clear where MS intends to go. People will see it for themselves soon enough.
 

Bsigg12

Member
As long as people who got it from steam can buy the DLC separately, I don't see the issue.

However it just feels weird that Ori:DE will be exclusive to Win 10 and Windows Store, when the original release was available in Windows 7 (and higher) and Steam.

Yea, Ori DE seems like it'll be available on Steam as well since it launched their originally. I get new games being kept on the Windows Store but withholding a large update like the DE is apparently shaping up to be would be low even by Microsoft's history.
 
Wait, really? Are you sure about that?

As far as cross-platform play goes, I guess it just depends on the game. Something like KI or a potential Forza, sure. With shooters though? Seems like they would avoid it because of the advantage PC players would have, which is probably we're not getting a straight answer with Gears. But I also remember something about them saying they can detect whether someone is using a controller or not on PC and matching people based on that, so that could be a solution.

Yup, you can do it from the Xbox App - I think it rolled out sometime early August.

You are correct, Microsoft made a point about saying they can matchmake players on PC/XB1 depending on their controller back at one of the early Windows 10 events last year.
 

Zedox

Member
Thanks. I've thought about it before and it's just way too much reading to expect of GAF to first get the big picture and then have a meaningful discussion about its potential implications. Then there is the inevitable shift to list wars and I just don't care to see another one of those threads.

The bottom line is it's crystal clear where MS intends to go. People will see it for themselves soon enough.

Yea. There's not many people on GAF nor other parts of the internet that get what MS is trying to accomplish as a company with their Store. Most people here are thinking just games (rightfully so) that they don't see the bigger picture. Just knowing that games don't have to be tied to a console or device and just follow me whatever platform I choose (that it's released on obviously) is definitely more exciting than what people complain about on here.

Especially seeing what MS is doing with Continuum on phones and seeing how powerful phones are becoming. A phone being your PC and one day being potentially play all of your games from your game library anywhere. All you have to do is hookup or wirelessly connect your phone to your television screen and hook up your controller or kb/m and you can game anywhere. That's the fucking future.

Mass Effect said:
The more you know...

Now I can talk to friends that didn't migrate over to PS4 and stayed on Xbox.

Wait, do you need Gold?

Nope. It's apart of the Xbox App. You don't have to pay for anything on PC to use their services. It's good when stuff works together. ;)
 
Wow...this is extremely surprising. Claps to Microsoft for actually doing something. I'll still buy them on console but this is great for PC gamer's.
 

Koobion

Member
Nice! Hopefully this trend continues for all exclusives. This is a great move IMO. I know a bunch of people who will be in the market for these games now who otherwise would have completely ignored them because of their platform.
 

poodaddy

Member
I had never heard of this game before at all before seeing this thread so I decided to look it up. Cool looking game with some very interesting potential mechanics. Why haven't I heard of this? Doesn't seem like anyone's really talking about it....maybe it's just coincidence and I had bad luck. Stoked it's coming to PC though, screens look gorgeous so it should be a treat at 60 fps.
 

Zedox

Member
Wow...this is extremely surprising. Claps to Microsoft for actually doing something. I'll still buy them on console but this is great for PC gamer's.

Not bashing you or anything...but if you've followed MS in the past years (outside of gaming)...you could see this happening. I'm not surprised at all (granted I do follow them closely, that's why I say i'm not bashing you) as this was the plan for a while. I can't wait for people to see the benefits that I've seen coming for a while now. It's just a great thing for gamers in general.

I just hope that more games become cross-buy by third parties (instead of nickel and dime people).
 

yurinka

Member
I see Recore, Sea of Thieves and Crackdown delayed to 2017.

One announcement would be made in late Summer, and the other two after Black Friday. I think in both 3 cases and Scalebound they already knew they were going to release them before being publicly announced, but had to announce them as 2016 to make their exclusives list look bigger.

I also bet that they will announce the PC version of Crackdown 3 in E3 (in that PC Gamer conference in case they repeat in 2016).
 

Nope. It's apart of the Xbox App. You don't have to pay for anything on PC to use their services. It's good when stuff works together. ;)

great news. One more reason to upgrade.

Not bashing you or anything...but if you've followed MS in the past years (outside of gaming)...you could see this happening. I'm not surprised at all (granted I do follow them closely, that's why I say i'm not bashing you) as this was the plan for a while. I can't wait for people to see the benefits that I've seen coming for a while now. It's just a great thing for gamers in general.

I just hope that more games become cross-buy by third parties (instead of nickel and dime people).

Some people have been skeptical, and for good reason. I mean you've seen that Angelus Errare post, right? It's nice to see that they are somewhat starting to deliver on these promises that they've been making for years.
 
As long as people who got it from steam can buy the DLC separately, I don't see the issue.

However it just feels weird that Ori:DE will be exclusive to Win 10 and Windows Store, when the original release was available in Windows 7 (and higher) and Steam.

From what they've said, there is no DLC to sell separately, its a separate game with all the DLC tied in so all the content has been worked in where necessary, unless they just omitted Steam for some reason and it is still launching there
 
Man MS are really putting some resources behind PC. These are big titles to push on both platforms. Really smart of them.
Funny enough MS putting some first party stuff on PC would push me to invest in a crazy system more than any of the games that are typically on the platform.
 
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