Bruno MB
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Yes, those are their first year sales.
Halo 4 was released on November 6, 2012 and Halo 5 on October 27, 2015. They both had around 2 months of tracking.
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NPD Sales Results for December 2015 [Up1: Super Mario Maker]
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Yes, those are their first year sales.
Halo 4 was released on November 6, 2012 and Halo 5 on October 27, 2015. They both had around 2 months of tracking.
Obliterator
Member
Good LORD at that decline. Man I really wonder what MS / 343 are going to try to do to right the ship
The Artisan
Member
so no exclusives, but i wonder how different the chart would be if it went by individual version instead of cumulating them, since they each aren't the exact same product.
Jarod McChicken
Member
My thanks to you creamy.
I would have thought the Order could reach 500K honestly. Until Dawn will pass R@D game in no time : |
Of course, one was happily destroyed by the voice of internet, when the other one became by surprise a favorite of the goddess YouTube.
I would have thought the Order could reach 500K honestly. Until Dawn will pass R@D game in no time : |
Of course, one was happily destroyed by the voice of internet, when the other one became by surprise a favorite of the goddess YouTube.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Woah.
That doesn't make sense really because it's not actually a bad game by any means. You have the die hard a that hate it because it's not halo 2-3 but it's an extremely competent game all around
Only thing I can think of is launching in maybe August or July next go round or an off month.
Obliterator
Member
Different launch date wont do anything. You dont decline like that because of the date. Thats the market sending a strong message about what they feel is the state of the franchise
Boombloxer
Member
If I go by that metric, it means there are 10M people waiting for it. So for exclusive titles, yes, it is. Even if it were multi platform, that's still a lot of people.
I'm happy creams' numbers are up there so some people can see how hard it is to hit that sales number.
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
So a 60% drop off between two mainline releases. That's a serious decline.
What are the install bases of the consoles during these time periods? What are the attach rates of the games to their install bases? Would be useful for further comparison.
The Artisan
Member
interesting, these were all in the month of december?
But they already tried to COd it up and that backfired. Maybe people just don't want to play that type of game massively anymore
Obliterator
Member
wapplew
Member
Not that bad if you add digital into consideration.
It would still be a 50-40% drop off of you added in digital
Obliterator
Member
I truly am wondering if people are just getting bored of Halo
My biggest gripe with what I've seen so far is how bullet spongy the enemies appear to be. It just doesnt sit right in such a realistic game. If you are shooting aliens with space weapons that is one thing but shooting an entire assault rifle mag into some dudes face is just weird and totally immersion breaking.
Also I DESPISE how all over the place the HUD is in this game. LIke your screen is literally littered with elements, markers, and notifiers constantly. Its like somebody took Assasin's Creed's overbearing HUD and asked "how can we make this even more dominant?" It compeltely ruins the game for me. Why would you take an otherwise gorgeously rendered/ diligently designed game world and then cover it all up with umpteen many flickering flashing things? Drives me absolutely crazy.
I do think that many will find the disconnect between realistic modern guns/setting to clash a lot with their more RPG focused mechanics and as such sales will suffer a bit.
But hey I was totally wrong on the impact the SW movie would have on Battlefront soooo I'm by no means claiming certainty here. Just a theory based on personal observation.
Nightengale
Member
A comparison with Halo 3 would be nice.
Since Halo 4 has the benefit of the "install base"
Since Halo 4 has the benefit of the "install base"
wapplew
Member
But Halo 3 has the benefit of "no competition"
Jarod McChicken
Member
> 200K
Bruno MB
Member
It's not a matter of install base, for example here are Halo 3 sales by the end of 2007 when Xbox 360 install base was below Xbox One.
LTD as of December 2007.
US - 4.82 million / UK - 0.74 million [Total - 5.56 million]
The Artisan
Member
Steverulez
Member
I think that Halo 5 working and being good (well, to me anyway) will help it improve for Halo 6.
I highly doubt it will get back to Halo 3/R/4 level but they will likely bundle it heavily to get it into peoples hands and show them its a good game and then just go again for Halo 6, which may well end up releasing on Windows 10 day one anyway.
Im sure Halo Wars 2 on Windows 10/Xbox One will do well too particularly on PC too in the mean time, keep the post-launch DLC plan going as planned too.
Yea no I don't see the CoD crowd buying into bullet sponge enemies. They are used to incredibly low TTK. The Division, despite its contemporary setting, could not be further from the CoD gameplay loop. The second those players shoot an enemy in the face multiple times and dont kill them they'll hate it.
If anything I see The Division appealing to the Borderlands audience. I think it will end up selling marginally worse than Borderlands did LTD. Which, all things considered, aint bad at all since it sold over 5 million copies.
So Halo 4 sold less in the same time period as 3? Interesting. Do you know about Reach as well? I wonder when the audience for Halo was saturated. I'm guessing between 3 and Reach.
Nightengale
Member
3, Reach and 4 all sold really,really well.
Fredrik
Member
I strongly believe that what you're seeing with Halo 5 is that many jumped ship this generation from Xbox to Playstation, and the rest of the lost sales are from those that haven't jumped in to this generation yet. Changing the developer or the game won't fix a thing, the sales of the next installment will get better when XB1 has a bigger installed base and when the ones who jumped ship has realized that they can actually afford to own two consoles. Halo 5 is a great great game, you really can't blame the decline on the quality of the game, a big chunk of the core 360 crowd who played Halo to death online and offline simply play on PS4 this generation. You can even see this just by looking at GAF and how the talk goes in any Xbox vs Playstation discussion. Xbox simply isn't as popular anymore.
spatenfloot
Member
It would be interesting to know the budgets for each of these games. We will probably never know.
Welfare
Member
Halo 3 was a September launch, Halo 4 was November.
The drop is very much real, and with how 343 are handling their post launch plans (very crappily) I doubt the legs will be good.
generic_username
I switched to an alt account to ditch my embarrassing tag so I could be an embarrassing Naughty Dog fanboy in peace. Ask me anything!
Bloodborne killing it! So awesome to see this game sell well.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
In relation Budget-Sales i'm sure The Order is the biggest bomba of 2015
I don't know if id buy that because the two strongest Xbox markets (US and UK) have higher xb1sales than the 360, so I don't think it's a matter of people jumping ship.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Ehhh until dawn started as a move game than was switched to the ps4 and used on the shadowfall engine with no marketing. Meanwhile the order looks like one of the best graphical games so far this gen,had plenty of commercials. I'd probably give it tp the order but than again who knows.
Also worth to mention sony hasn't said shit about the order sense. At least with until dawn shu came out and started talking about marketing makes me thing it did at least alil good.
Well we atleast know that until dawn exceeded sales expectations and the devs are happy and working on another game!Wow at 1886 outselling Until Dawn at retail!
I thought Until dawn would be doing significantly better than that given all the positive WoM and all the Let's Plays.
joecanada
Member
Needs Moar F2p! Lol
I think it already has including bundles
Makes you wonder what their expectations were...
Bruno MB
Member
Both had a similar opening but Halo: Reach was more frontloaded, LTD as of September 2011 [1 year of tracking] was below what Halo 3 sold in its first 4 months.
By the way, US Halo 3: ODST first two weeks of tracking nearly matches Halo 5 2015 sales.
Well, it's an Xbone version only. When you include around 66k for X360 in 2 months in NPD, that's a 410k,.
Japanmanx3
Member
Anecdotal but the Halo world champs are happening in twitch and the viewer count was less than 2k. The have was only on the twitch top 10 for like maybe 3-4 days after release. It doesn't seem to pull attention at all.
chromatic9
Member
Sounds about right (I was skeptical) with the info of 300k outside Japan and the Canada numbers. Did we have a bunch of Canada info posted in this thread? I asked NPD_Mulcair for some but didn't catch anything plus a bunch more people asked afterwards and still nothing.
People like to give US stick but 800k Bloodborne is extremely high and people love to praise Euorpe and in particular Germany but it only did between 100-200k. Canada with less than half the population of Germany did better or as good. For whatever reason Bloodborne hype didn't seem to take hold in the EU and US/Canada seem to get into the hype of the Sony exclusive. Would be interesting to see the breakdown of Dark Souls.
Nightengale
Member
The fact that Until Dawn got practically zero marketing probably ended up helping a little bit.
It had no major marketing investment yet still did sales close to that of the other heavily marketed game.
The Artisan
Member
that is a cute gif.
that's awesome, if true. it's a shame though i've been hearing there won't be a sequel to it :\