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The Division Open Beta Thread: Is it out yet?

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Kane1345

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kriskrosbbk said:
Does it really matter when the servers go up for the retail version .I am in EU and all retailers here will release the retail version on 8th?Am I wrong?
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A lot of people in the UK already have their copies. I know Shopto customers got their copies yesterday.
 
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Klyka

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Aztechnology said:
So here's where I'm torn. I have the game pre-ordered. But I'm frustrated at the relative lack of information we have and the absence of early review copies to get a Guage on the games quality. I got burned on Vanilla Destiny but was sold on the promise and potential so kept playing and I felt it never truly delivered. I enjoyed parts of it, but it was too successful for what it was which was an MMO lite cash cow that was basically just an RNG machine. My worry is that the Division will mirror Destiny in the fashion it focuses entirely on loot and is very surface level in terms of end game content and enemy variety. Destiny at least has space magic and aliens to keep it fresh and it basically leaves the content and encounters completely up to the imagination of the developers. Which means we got fights like Atheon and Oryx who were interesting. In the Division are we just going to be fighting walking health tank with a gun man A and walking health tank of a man with flamethrower B as boss fights? Is there even going to be true end game content or just dungeons? There's so little information and we're expected to just trust this is going to deliver on its potential. How much possible interesting enemy variety and encounters can you create when you are limited to the confines of slightly futuristic technology in New York on earth? How quickly will this get stale? Help assuage my fears this will be super content light.
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I trust my 30 hours played in the beta.
 
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Dot Matrix

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Aztechnology said:
So here's where I'm torn. I have the game pre-ordered. But I'm frustrated at the relative lack of information we have and the absence of early review copies to get a Guage on the games quality. I got burned on Vanilla Destiny but was sold on the promise and potential so kept playing and I felt it never truly delivered. I enjoyed parts of it, but it was too successful for what it was which was an MMO lite cash cow that was basically just an RNG machine. My worry is that the Division will mirror Destiny in the fashion it focuses entirely on loot and is very surface level in terms of end game content and enemy variety. Destiny at least has space magic and aliens to keep it fresh and it basically leaves the content and encounters completely up to the imagination of the developers. Which means we got fights like Atheon and Oryx who were interesting. In the Division are we just going to be fighting walking health tank with a gun man A and walking health tank of a man with flamethrower B as boss fights? Is there even going to be true end game content or just dungeons? There's so little information and we're expected to just trust this is going to deliver on its potential. How much possible interesting enemy variety and encounters can you create when you are limited to the confines of slightly futuristic technology in New York on earth? How quickly will this get stale? Help assuage my fears this will be super content light.
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No. You have the exact same information available to you as we have to us. If you want to wait and see if the content is worthwhile, wait for reviews. If you like what you know of the game already and are willing to take a chance, pick it up tomorrow.

If you want to shoot weird, fantastic aliens, play Destiny. If you want to shoot rioters, play The Division.

I don't know what you expect to hear to convince you at this point. Or do you want to buy it, but want someone to blame for making you buy it in case it turns out that you don't like it.

I think they've given adequate information for people to make up their minds. Do you like to read a movie script before you go to see it, just in case the ending isn't satisfactory?
 
SilentFlyer

SilentFlyer

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So the game pre-load started. But I see two The Division pre-loading at the same time. However, the timing of both are different (5hour difference between both). Also, I can see that season pass and pre-order bonus is attached to the one with high time counter.

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Although I deleted both and re-initiated the pre-load.
 
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Aztechnology

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Klyka said:
I trust my 30 hours played in the beta.
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Klyka as someone who's played alot of Destiny too. Are you not at all concerned. Did you find no fault in Destiny? I put in far too many hours in hopes of the game finally realizing it's potential but it never did to me. Destiny had moments of Brilliance with the first and third raid and some of the dungeons/nightfalls but it was a very incomplete game considering it's MMO roots.

I put time into the Division Beta as well. But that's because it plays well. But that lustre wears off and becomes pointless if there's no content. I just am frustrated with myself for buying this because I'm paying for an unkown quantity at this point and like Destiny possibly supporting a game design decision that might just be to capitalize on easy money by hooking people into another RNG loot based game with nothing much else to offer

Also with the false advertisiment, basically no release day reviews and monthly events being tied to a season pass I'm very wary. The problem is even early reviews won't give me all the answers I'm looking for. I guess I just have to believe or don't play it at all...
 
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Aztechnology

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Dot Matrix said:
No. You have the exact same information available to you as we have to us. If you want to wait and see if the content is worthwhile, wait for reviews. If you like what you know of the game already and are willing to take a chance, pick it up tomorrow.

If you want to shoot weird, fantastic aliens, play Destiny. If you want to shoot rioters, play The Division.

I don't know what you expect to hear to convince you at this point. Or do you want to buy it, but want someone to blame for making you buy it in case it turns out that you don't like it.

I think they've given adequate information for people to make up their minds. Do you like to read a movie script before you go to see it, just in case the ending isn't satisfactory?
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I was hoping someone might link developer interview or blogs I had missed addressing my concerns. I don't really know where to look to find information about the end game "raid" content and the like. I'm a heavily PVE focused player and I want to pick this up for Co-op play mainly. I have just seen so little information about anything.
 
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Klyka

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Aztechnology said:
So here's where I'm torn. I have the game pre-ordered. But I'm frustrated at the relative lack of information we have and the absence of early review copies to get a Guage on the games quality. I got burned on Vanilla Destiny but was sold on the promise and potential so kept playing and I felt it never truly delivered. I enjoyed parts of it, but it was too successful for what it was which was an MMO lite cash cow that was basically just an RNG machine. My worry is that the Division will mirror Destiny in the fashion it focuses entirely on loot and is very surface level in terms of end game content and enemy variety. Destiny at least has space magic and aliens to keep it fresh and it basically leaves the content and encounters completely up to the imagination of the developers. Which means we got fights like Atheon and Oryx who were interesting. In the Division are we just going to be fighting walking health tank with a gun man A and walking health tank of a man with flamethrower B as boss fights? Is there even going to be true end game content or just dungeons? There's so little information and we're expected to just trust this is going to deliver on its potential. How much possible interesting enemy variety and encounters can you create when you are limited to the confines of slightly futuristic technology in New York on earth? How quickly will this get stale? Help assuage my fears this will be super content light.
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Ubersnug

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So can anyone shed any light on this?

I have it preloaded on the Xbox one, and it's currently taking up 27.5gig.

On the Xbox store it mentions it's 32.5gig-ish.

I would have thought, by now, my preload would have downloaded the rest it needs, but it doesn't seem to have done so.

I tried deleting it and redownloading it. And the final size is 27.5gig again.

Is this a compressed size that will uncompressed to the full 32.5gig when it activates or is there something specific I need to do to get the preload to fetch the rest of the game?
 
kriskrosbbk

kriskrosbbk

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Ubersnug said:
So can anyone shed any light on this?

I have it preloaded on the Xbox one, and it's currently taking up 27.5gig.

On the Xbox store it mentions it's 32.5gig-ish.

I would have thought, by now, my preload would have downloaded the rest it needs, but it doesn't seem to have done so.

I tried deleting it and redownloading it. And the final size is 27.5gig again.

Is this a compressed size that will uncompressed to the full 32.5gig when it activates or is there something specific I need to do to get the preload to fetch the rest of the game?
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I think you are overthinking this one .It will work man.Have a kit kat.
 
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Cabbagehead

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Aztechnology said:
I was hoping someone might link developer interview or blogs I had missed addressing my concerns. I don't really know where to look to find information about the end game "raid" content and the like. I'm a heavily PVE focused player and I want to pick this up for Co-op play mainly. I have just seen so little information about anything.
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Then you really haven't looked hard enough. To be honest, there is a lot of information both before and now especially with the help of some folks looking into the game files.We will have lots to do, collect, see and much more, PVE will be more then the big D. This seems to be what Destiny should have been at its core at least from what it looks like to me.

Also we are like a day away from release or so. If you are this paranoid I think it's better to wait it out because it's still just a game and you are not forced to play it.
 
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Klyka

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Aztechnology said:
Klyka as someone who's played alot of Destiny too. Are you not at all concerned. Did you find no fault in Destiny? I put in far too many hours in hopes of the game finally realizing it's potential but it never did to me. Destiny had moments of Brilliance with the first and third raid and some of the dungeons/nightfalls but it was a very incomplete game considering it's MMO roots.

I put time into the Division Beta as well. But that's because it plays well. But that lustre wears off and becomes pointless if there's no content. I just am frustrated with myself for buying this because I'm paying for an unkown quantity at this point and like Destiny possibly supporting a game design decision that might just be to capitalize on easy money by hooking people into another RNG loot based game with nothing much else to offer

Also with the false advertisiment, basically no release day reviews and monthly events being tied to a season pass I'm very wary.
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Son, I have like 200 hours played in Destiny.
I have seen all content except the Lighthouse. Well technically I have seen it cause I joined a group who was hanging out there, but I didn't get any loot for it.

I play a game cause it is fun. Destiny, to me, was fun but I also don't play like other people. I don't want grind and I don't enjoy running the same content TOO much. If I reach the point where all the content in the game has been experienced and I don't feel inclined to continue,I stop and wait for new content.
I don't buy a game to play it for the next year every day forever.

I put 30 hours into the two Division betas. Those betas had a TINY amount of content, but the overall gameplay loop and atmosphere made me play.
That's 30 hours out of the game without even spending money on it.
I will get at least 60 hours out of the full release. That's 1€ per hour for me.
Realistically,I will get WAY more than 60 hours out of it.
And then I'll jump back into the game every time they release new content that looks fun to me.
I'll play with a friend,I'll play with GAFfers, just like I did Destiny.

I know exactly what the game feels like cause I played it myself and I have never been someone to fall for the "endgame" buzzword bullshit.

Division is a fine game and I love me some co-op.
 
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PatDH

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Aztechnology said:
Klyka as someone who's played alot of Destiny too. Are you not at all concerned. Did you find no fault in Destiny? I put in far too many hours in hopes of the game finally realizing it's potential but it never did to me. Destiny had moments of Brilliance with the first and third raid and some of the dungeons/nightfalls but it was a very incomplete game considering it's MMO roots.

I put time into the Division Beta as well. But that's because it plays well. But that lustre wears off and becomes pointless if there's no content. I just am frustrated with myself for buying this because I'm paying for an unkown quantity at this point and like Destiny possibly supporting a game design decision that might just be to capitalize on easy money by hooking people into another RNG loot based game with nothing much else to offer

Also with the false advertisiment, basically no release day reviews and monthly events being tied to a season pass I'm very wary. The problem is even early reviews won't give me all the answers I'm looking for. I guess I just have to believe or don't play it at all...
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If you're really that worried there's no harm in cancelling your pre-order and taking a wait and see approach to how the game turns out :)
It's really not as big a deal as you seem to be making it out to be.
 
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Cabbagehead

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Klyka said:
Son, I have like 200 hours played in Destiny.
I have seen all content except the Lighthouse. Well technically I have seen it cause I joined a group who was hanging out there, but I didn't get any loot for it.

I play a game cause it is fun. Destiny, to me, was fun but I also don't play like other people. I don't want grind and I don't enjoy running the same content TOO much. If I reach the point where all the content in the game has been experienced and I don't feel inclined to continue,I stop and wait for new content.
I don't buy a game to play it for the next year every day forever.

I put 30 hours into the two Division betas. Those betas had a TINY amount of content, but the overall gameplay loop and atmosphere made me play.
That's 30 hours out of the game without even spending money on it.
I will get at least 60 hours out of the full release. That's 1€ per hour for me.
Realistically,I will get WAY more than 60 hours out of it.
And then I'll jump back into the game every time they release new content that looks fun to me.
I'll play with a friend,I'll play with GAFfers, just like I did Destiny.

I know exactly what the game feels like cause I played it myself and I have never been someone to fall for the "endgame" buzzword bullshit.

Division is a fine game and I love me some co-op.
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Buzzword bullshit indeed and it annoys me that this is a thing now.
 
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Cabbagehead

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Smash88 said:
Isn't the rule now only 24 hours before release? It's why I waited 24 hours prior, if it's different then great.

Also super hyped to finally have the OT up soon. Get away from these disgusting red pandas post
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You'll be in for a rude awakening from furious Panda hugs!!

You can't resist!
 
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Aztechnology

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Cabbagehead said:
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Klyka said:
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PatDH said:
If you're really that worried there's no harm in cancelling your pre-order and taking a wait and see approach to how the game turns out :)
It's really not as big a deal as you seem to be making it out to be.
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Thanks for putting up with my drunk paranoia bullshit. I think I'll just keep it. Like Klyka said I feel pretty confident I can get at least a dollar an hour enjoyment out of it so I guess I'll keep my order. Fingers crossed it is what Destiny should have been at its core PVE wise. Regardless since I'm getting it on PS4 with GCU I can always just sell it. I'm probably reading too much into this as potentially being a negative impact to the gaming industry if it sells well and turns out content sparse. Melodrama doesn't suit me.

End game content isn't a buzzword to me at least though. It's a very real problem that many MMO's are lacking. I was someone who raided in WoW etc. The leveling is a Journey, but post leveling is where the real challenge and interesting content usually begin with these games. The only time that hasn't help true was SWTOR because leveling had decent storylines. Most MMO's don't.
 
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Dot Matrix

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Aztechnology said:
I was hoping someone might link developer interview or blogs I had missed addressing my concerns. I don't really know where to look to find information about the end game "raid" content and the like. I'm a heavily PVE focused player and I want to pick this up for Co-op play mainly. I have just seen so little information about anything.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFeldngFyv8
The incursions trailer might be your best bet for end game/post release content. Looks to me like end game is focused on exploring areas rather than traditional raid setups.

The only info we have is from the developers so they aren't going to be upfront if there is minimal end game content. You might do better to wait for reviews or walk through videos if that's your main concern to be honest. No one here can give anything other than opinions/hopes for the full product.

If you liked the beta and enjoy co-op play, I personally predict that the journey to the end game will be worth the money by itself.
 
Arun1910

Arun1910

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I really cant wait for this.

I put in 25 hours into the Closed Beta and 16 hours in the Open Beta.

Thats 41 hours having fun with such little content. The full game can only have more stuff to do (obviously) so I suspect I will be putting a lotttttt of hours into this!

Also I don't know if I'm the only one thinking this, but having servers locked until 1pm GMT Monday means I haven't had to worry about spoilers so far.
 
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Aztechnology

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Dot Matrix said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFeldngFyv8
The incursions trailer might be your best bet for end game/post release content. Looks to me like end game is focused on exploring areas rather than traditional raid setups.

The only info we have is from the developers so they aren't going to be upfront if there is minimal end game content. You might do better to wait for reviews or walk through videos if that's your main concern to be honest. No one here can give anything other than opinions/hopes for the full product.

If you liked the beta and enjoy co-op play, I personally predict that the journey to the end game will be worth the money by itself.
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Thank you! That was a very helpful video for me. Helped me to understand the possible road map a little more. Now we wait. If it doesn't pan out maybe I'll see you in The Division 2: The Search for more money.

couldn't resist a space balls reference and a small dig at gaming publishers lol
 
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Onimusha78

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Two quick questions before I pull the trigger.

What's the customisation like in this, can I make my character look significantly different than everybody else's?

And I watched a gameplay preview of someone using a sniper and they looked super weak, like they were shooting tranquilliser darts. Are they all like this?

Thanks
 
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