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Isn't "stupid" considered ableist, by those who consider such things?
I am speaking about the word retarded. It's a descriptive term used in modern dialect. i.e. "Dude, that's retarded." or "I want to smoke myself retarded."
If you want to use it in your everyday dialect, please use another word. How about stupid instead? "Dude, that's stupid." or "Dude, I want to smoke myself stupid."
Is Retard really that offensive? UK here and its not a big deal here
How about "moron"? You say that one? You shouldn't.
The R word is not allowed in my family. We are liberal democrats.
It's understandable that you would take offense.
There's no nice way to insult intelligence. I'll keep using it. Beside, stupid, idiot, imbecile...all words that at one point in time were the term for intellectually disabled folk.
I prefer mongoloid anyways
Nah.
Words have the power we give them. It doesn't matter what the entomology is. Nobody really correlates the term "moron" with mental disabilities, they correlate it with just general stupidity. Which is why retard stands alone here, because it was recently used to describe mental disabilities in a clinical setting. People remember and correlate.
I prefer mongoloid anyways
"Lame" and "dumb" are probably even better examples of words that (had) more direct connection to physical disabilities and now don't. I expect "retarded" to follow a similar linguistic evolutionary track.
So explain something to me. If I say " Dude that's retarded." referring to a drawing of Sonic(for instance), you would take offense, as retarded is not a proper word for mentally challenged people, correct?
So why if I said "Dude, that's stupid." while referring to a drawing of Sonic(for instance), would you not also take offense? In neither case am I referring the words towards a human being.
I feel like the whole point of the R word IS to compare it to people who has this disability it's inherently mocking these people.
Stupid (or was it a synonym or in another language?) was actually used to define people with that disability.
I would argue that maybe using these words aren't the best way to demean someone...
There's no nice way to insult intelligence. I'll keep using it. Beside, stupid, idiot, imbecile...all words that at one point in time were the term for intellectually disabled folk.
Nah.
Words have the power we give them. It doesn't matter what the entomology is. Nobody really correlates the term "moron" with mental disabilities, they correlate it with just general stupidity. Which is why retard stands alone here, because it was recently used to describe mental disabilities in a clinical setting. People remember and correlate.
Not to worry, I switched to "mongoloid" a few years back. It's all good.
What a fucking leap.Be ablist and racist in one go, a twofer!
The term originated in the age of scientific racism when the "scientists" wondered how some members of the white race could exhibit mental deficiency, so they took a very superficial look at down's syndrome and decided that one of the person's ancestors must have been raped by a Mongol back in the 1200s.
Not to worry, I switched to "mongoloid" a few years back. It's all good.
So you're saying to give it time?
I dunno. I don't use any of those words. I must be a more liberal democrat than you.
It's understandable that you would take offense.
You say the M Word.
Is Retard really that offensive? UK here and its not a big deal here its just a meaner version of calling somebody stupid/a idiot.
I dunno though im probably wrong
You say the M Word.
Correct.
This whole "stupid" argument doesn't bother me. The R word was based off of the term mentally retarded.
I work in a Cerebral Palsy and Autism center. I'm sure I hear the word stupid while I never hear the R word.
My brother is retarded. Saying retarded isn't offensive. People don't mean anything bad by it. I think people who make a big deal about the word are painfully self righteous, and almost seem to belive that if we just used a different word it would magically change the condition. Sorry. It doesn't work that way.
Growing up with a retarded sibling has taught me not to sweat the small stuff.
As liberal as GAF is, I see it daily.
In what part of Gaf do you hang? I've been here for years, I browse daily to an unhealthy degree, and I could count the number of times I saw that word on my hands. And every time, that user was swiftly banned.
In any case, yeah, I don't use it.
You're either ignorant or trolling. The word "retarded" is and always has been used to either directly or indirectly mock the mentally disabled. Everyone knows it, it's just been so ingrained in our culture that no one cares, and it certainly doesn't help that the ones being mocked don't have as loud a public voice as other minority groups.
How about "moron"? You say that one? You shouldn't.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468581In what part of Gaf do you hang? I've been here for years, I browse daily to an unhealthy degree, and I could count the number of times I saw that word on my hands. And every time, that user was swiftly banned.
In any case, yeah, I don't use it.
I wish I was.
Google "euphemism treadmil".
In 20 years, people will say the phrase "disabled" is offensive.
You spelled out IDD as Intellectual and Developmental Disablities.Handicapped is also a negative word. Mentally disabled is also not the best as people with IDD are not disabled. They can still function.
MHMRA of Houston, Texas is the biggest Mental Health and Mental Retardation Association in the Houston area. They recently changed their company to IDD instead of Mental Retardation.
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If you are actually speaking about mentally retarded people, the correct terminology is IDD. Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities. i.e. "Yeah, my sister has Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities. She suffers from Cerebral Palsy."