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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development

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Kimawolf

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People take rumors too seriously. No one should be shocked. The guy said himself he is no insider he is just posting what he hears. The fact that some of it isnt true should surprise no one.

Hell the very nature of rumors is " a guy knows a guy who works at/ on xyz". By their nature they are unreliable even if someone is right 99 percent of the time.

And even saying what he said he got a few things "right" according to other "insiders". Which means someone is feeding him information.

Its fun to read rumors and all the speculation, if you took it as gospel that's on you. I enjoyed reading most of these posts lol so dont close the thread even if he did steal something from another twitter person.

Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater people.
 
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AcademicSaucer

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georly said:
Oh damn https://zhugeex.com/nx/

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bomblord1

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I feel like nothing in that blog post was unknown to use. Did you guys think he was actually in contact with verified devs?

His first post was saying he attempted to do some personal research and was posting the results of what he heard.

He used the tier system because he wasn't certain any of them were trustworthy and figured that multiple independent sources saying the same thing made it more likely.
 
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Lupin the Third

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Kimawolf said:
People take rumors too serioisly. No one should be shocked. The guy said himself he is no insider he is just posting what he hears. The fact that some of it isnt true should surprise no one.

Hell the very nature of rumors is " a guy knows a guy who works at/ on xyz". By their nature they are unreliable even if someone is right 99 percent of the time.

And even saying what he said he gotva few things "right" according to other "insiders". Which means someone is feeding him information.

Its fun to read rumors and all the speculation, if you took it as gospel that's on you. I enkoyed reading most of these posts lol so dont close the thread even if he did steal something from another twitter person.

Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater people.
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You're not entirely wrong, but:
Repurposing rumors he read elsewhere and parading it around as if he was told by a source himself isn't quite the same
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KingSnake

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Tom Nook Sawyer said:
Regardless of the rumors validity and what games will ultimately release, the timing of those rumors are what don't make sense given what we now know of 10k's vetting process.

The mere fact that Emily came out with the same rumor like 20 minutes after 10k is making me wonder where 10k got that information from originally
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Actually Emily came with this rumour before 10k.
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/11/rumour-nintendo-nx-games-set-to-include-wii-u-ports/

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MK_768

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I'm not for banning 10k. I mean he warned he was just saying what was told to him or what he read. The rumors for the most part were weak as hell. I think he got caught up in what he was saying being made up as a big deal and then having a thread on it. He got excited to get potential leaks and whatnot. Caught in the moment.

Our overreaction should lead to him being punished. We are all capable of thinking and reigning in our excitement lol.

With that said, this should be locked.
 
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ZOONAMI

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blu said:
Ok, it's not $600, it's $500 - that must be our Fiji. And the NX will be running a Fiji at idle.

Gaf, you can do better.
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I of course realize it won't run at idle all the time, but I don't know what it power consumption might be if it was drastically cut down and downclocked.

And again, I've said several times I'm just speculating based on the fiji comment from 10ks source, but if you feel like shitting on me, go ahead.
 
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Joqu

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Okay judging from all those reactions clearly you guys DID put way too much stock into those rumours. Damn guys. Don't forget the WUST.

Don't forget 10k has been clear his rumours could turn out false. I still don't see how this changes anything, except maybe for questioning his methodology. He's always said you should take his info with a grain of salt. If that blog post really comes like a shock to you clearly weren't sceptical enough in the first place

Tom Nook Sawyer said:
Repurposing rumors he read elsewhere and parading it around as if he was told by a source himself isn't quite the same
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It isn't, no. That part sucks. But I'm pretty sure he does have sources alongside that. I believe the info he give in the DM shared in that post regarding journalists and a dev. I'm pretty sure that's the stuff he sent to the mods too.

Whether they're good sources we don't know but that ain't news.
 
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KingSnake

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As I said earlier in this thread, he's a rumour aggregator. Which is not a bad thing if he wouldn't have tried to appear as something else, someone who is in touch with sources, not someone who just picks rumours from the internet.
 
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OrbitalBeard

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Dystify said:
I agree. People only got themselves to blame for this... They were rumors from the start. It was fun to read the topic though. :)

Just taking tweets like this and posting it as a rumor wasn't cool, however. Oh wells.
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This is the point. Everyone knew these were rumors. That's not the issue.

KingSnake said:
As I said earlier in this thread, he's a rumour aggregator. Which is not a bad thing if he wouldn't have tried to appear as something else, someone who is in touch with sources, not someone who just picks rumours from the internet.
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Exactly.
 
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ozfunghi

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KingSnake said:
So what 10k presented initially wasn't what the source said directly, but an interpretation of it.
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I am aware that what 10k told us, was not what the dev told him. However, to assume Thraktor told him to change the info in such a manner is farfetched. What you just quoted, that Thraktor told 10k that it would make more sense to go for Polaris, was merely speculation on Thraktors behalf, and was NOT done in a private chat, because that is what Thraktor said in this (or the Reddit) thread out in the open, when asked if it made sense to use an older architecture but put it on 14nm while bolting on polaris features. That's what Thraktor responded to by saying that in that case, they 'd better be off going for Polaris.

So far i'm reading much confirmation bias from you, but not from Thraktor.
 
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Lupin the Third

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KingSnake said:
As I said earlier in this thread, he's a rumour aggregator. Which is not a bad thing if he wouldn't have tried to appear as something else, someone who is in touch with sources, not someone who just picks rumours from the internet.
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Yup. We were told (or it was at least insinuated) these rumors came from X number of direct sources, which were implied to be potentially legit, but taken with salt.

Not "I saw this on someone's public Twitter account and rephrased it, unsourced." There's a level of deception and obfuscation involved there. He could've just shared the original link on that one to encourage discussion and allow us to assess its credibility for ourselves.
 
cyberheater

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Tom Nook Sawyer said:
Repurposing rumors he read elsewhere and parading it around as if he was told by a source himself isn't quite the same, if ZhugeEX is to be believed



*Reads
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If ZhugeEX is correct then that does not look good for 10k
 
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BitStyle

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KingSnake said:
As I said earlier in this thread, he's a rumour aggregator. Which is not a bad thing if he wouldn't have tried to appear as something else, someone who is in touch with sources, not someone who just picks rumours from the internet.
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This is what irks me, otherwise I wouldn't have exactly been this disappointed. I was under the impression 10k wasn't just grabbing people's rumors without reaching out. It really was just simple rumor aggregation all along. Oh well.
 
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OrbitalBeard

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Lupin the Third said:
We were told these were rumors from X number of direct sources, which were implied to be potentially legit, but taken with salt.

Not "I saw this on someone's public Twitter account and rephrased it unsourced." There's a level of deception and obfuscation involved there.
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Why are you quoting me? I 100% agree with what you're saying, which is exactly what I posted in regards to.

Edit - oh, I see you edited.
 
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KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
ozfunghi said:
I am aware that what 10k told us, was not what the dev told him. However, to assume Thraktor told him to change the info in such a manner is farfetched. What you just quoted, that Thraktor told 10k that it would make more sense to go for Polaris, was merely speculation on Thraktors behalf, and was NOT done in a private chat, because that is what Thraktor said in this (or the Reddit) thread out in the open, when asked if it made sense to use an older architecture but put it on 14nm while bolting on polaris features. That's what Thraktor responded to by saying that in that case, they 'd better be off going for Polaris.

So far i'm reading much confirmation bias from you, but not from Thraktor.
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I didn't say that Thraktor told him to change the info for some kind of agenda. I'm just saying that Thraktor is so fascinated by the possibility of Polaris being in NX that he interpreted that info in such way that made the GPU being Polaris the most probable way. And that info was taken over by 10k and then posted as the actual leak.

I don't accuse Thraktor of any intentional wrong doing. In fact confirmation bias is exactly that, something that is happening non intentionally.
 
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DrWong

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So back to the case: better cpu than ps4one as only consistant rumour spec wise? Good. Now it's the time to play the secret SCD sauce Kimishima. Unleash the patents!:]
 
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Zalman

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Oddduck said:
It's still possible that he could be right on Luigi's Mansion 3.
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There is a solid case to be made for Luigi's Mansion 3 even without these rumors. The only things I really buy from this thread are the 4 ports and the "good" specs part - basically what Emily said.
 
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Skittzo0413

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BGBW said:
OK.

YUJjHBj.jpg


Here's a depiction of what the NX could look like.

I've included 4 Ks, a port, a card slot and polaroid since that's what people claim it will have. Also based on some blueprints I found when rummaging through Kimishima's bins.
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You need to add a slot to insert your bread for toasting and somewhere to warm up your bologna lunchmeats.


But yeah, the tweet he repurposed as a "direct source" is kind of disheartening and casts a good amount of doubt on all of the other rumors 10k posted. Back to square 1, I guess? Well, square 1.3, now that we have LCGeeks CPU info
 
LordOfChaos

LordOfChaos

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Any rumors pointing to what fab they're spinning up for this? Are they using Renesas for the fabs again? Or is Renesas pretty well dead for that, considering...

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1264487

If it's Renasas it could be another frankenarchitecture like the Wii U where the fabrication process size the architecture usually shipped with isn't the combination used in the NX.

Or will they just be using TSMC/GloFo/Maybe Samsung like normal people this time.
 
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ZOONAMI

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I thought something was a bit fishy with 10k based on him speculating on DMs to another gaffer from the "verified" reddit leaker in the last thread to all of a sudden having all these sources that are thread worthy. It seemed the mod who closed that thread was a bit skeptical as well, but 10k was apparently verified without that mod knowing iirc?
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
BitStyle said:
Well, I give some weight to Emily's information as well, but that's where the information I consider ends.
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I still don't trust Emily as much as others do, but she definitely is more "insider" than 10k.
 
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ozfunghi

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KingSnake said:
I didn't say that Thraktor told him to change the info for some kind of agenda. I'm just saying that Thraktor is so fascinated by the possibility of Polaris being in NX that he interpreted that info in such way that made the GPU being Polaris the most probable way. And that info was taken over by 10k and then posted as the actual leak.

I don't accuse Thraktor of any intentional wrong doing. In fact confirmation bias is exactly that, something that is happening non intentionally.
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And still you have zero basis for your claim since you do not know what they discussed and in what context. Your quote was from a public discussion here on gaf, of which Thraktor was not aware that 10k would take that as "confirmation" that he should state the GPU was polaris. Thraktor just gave his opinion, that it made more sense to take an actual polaris chip, instead of putting in extra r&d into an old chip, try to scale it down, put it on 14nm and finally bolt on polaris features. Seems rather logical that Thraktor would say that, yes.
 
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