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NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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They sort of forfeit it, yeah. The choice to reveal the NX at a separate event is clearly a strategic decision. I'm not going to speculate on the reasons here, but someone has decided that it's more effective to do that big schpiel outside the confines of this conference. That is a statement of sorts, on E3 or on competing with all the other news that week.
I'm pretty sure they're talking about the NX being in 2017, not it being absent at E3. From a personal standpoint I can sympathize - I too am ok with a 2017 NX date. That's why the poster says they are okay with it.
Well they did announce FE and Animal Crossing for mobile. I have no doubt in my mind a mobile AC game will be huge because the mobile market is Animal Crossing's largest market on 3DS.
Ooccoo
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Japanese devs struggle with HD. This is just Nintendo having a tough time dealing with modern graphics IMO. Still a bit of a shocker, I was really expecting Fall 2016 for the launch of the NX. Seems quite dire to have the Wii U with only what, Mario Paper and Zelda? Feels like the Wii U has died years ago and you have nothing else to show. Pretty sad.
The thing that seems to make the least sense is the fact they aren't willing to talk about it at E3 whilst focusing on Zelda, a game they have now admitted will also be coming to the NX. Nobody is going to be watching their Digital Event under the illusion that the sole focus of their Direct is a WiiU exclusive title, and it's not as if they'd be losing significant sales by discussing a system we know is coming in less than a year.
Psydonk
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I expect polish, but I don't expect it to be on the scale or have the level of content of modern AAA action RPG/Adventure games. Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword were both massively underwhelming games for their time.
The question is, if people are willing to drop $60 on a platformer, when you have numerous crazy good indie platformers for $5, $10 to choose from.
One of the biggest issues with Nintendo IMO is the pricing. They are selling games that are nowhere near the content or production of AAA games coming out from other studios, but keep them at $60 for god knows what reason. Nintendo games are like very polished arcade titles.
metalslimer
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My expectations of what this will be just hit rock bottom. Missing the holiday season only to launch 3 months later means they must be behind schedule like they were with the 3ds but at least that got shown at e3
SinCityAssassin
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I'm pretty sure more clear PR will be out before E3 to weather expectations.
Freeman
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Possibly even worse.
NX needed to be 2016, 2017 is WiiU-like territory with the added disadvantage of this time having to compete against the PS4K.
sunshine and gasoline
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Rather disappointed at the NX not being at E3 but the focusing on Zelda is nice.
thecouncil
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Are you going to be at E3? Because if not, why do you care what people at E3 are playing?
Devilgunman
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The "No NX at E3" is really shocking. When are they going to show it then? The thing is coming out in less than a year and Nintendo usually don't do press at Gamescom or TGS. Are they gonna do their own event like PSX? If I have to predict NX won't make it by March 2017.
Novel Mike
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Wow this is crazy. Zelda delayed again and out of the holidays, NX not until March, and no NX at e3? What the hell are they thinking? They can't have anything big for Wii U this holiday season right?
3DS is looking to have a pretty good year with a lot of games but the Wii U has pretty much damn near nothing announced for it for the holiday season unless they push Paper Mario to holidays but thats no where near a big enough title to carry the system through... this seems like a last minute decision that they aren't ready for at all.
3DS is looking to have a pretty good year with a lot of games but the Wii U has pretty much damn near nothing announced for it for the holiday season unless they push Paper Mario to holidays but thats no where near a big enough title to carry the system through... this seems like a last minute decision that they aren't ready for at all.
They will probably have a big Nintendo Direct for the NX.
Otakumegane
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The fact that it has to compete with PS4k is one thing, but honestly I'm just so disappointed that they have nothing to show for this year even with all that R&D $$.
I feel as if something horribly went wrong in the production of this thing possibly related to trying to find a gimmick or Iwata's untimely death that just makes this whole launch fiasco that much more depressing.
I feel as if something horribly went wrong in the production of this thing possibly related to trying to find a gimmick or Iwata's untimely death that just makes this whole launch fiasco that much more depressing.
Psydonk
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Megaton.
jesus haven't heard that in a long time.
What was the Megaton announcement again? Was it the Capcom 5?
ZehDon
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I think the problem with an NX press event is that, frankly, only Nintendo fans are going to pay attention. And that killed the Wii U. For virtually three full generations now, Nintendo have just outright failed to capture the gaming population at large. Stepping up at E3 at least puts the NX on the same stage as the PS4 and Xbone, soaking up coverage like a new console does. With an NX press event, it's a couple of headlines you read while scrolling Eurogamer unless you're already interested. With PSVR, PS4Neo and a possible Xbone.5 coming, Nintendo basically had this E3 to steal people's excitement and attention. An NX press event with anything less than the next Mario 64 isn't going to do much for the non-choir folk.Guess that's why they plan a NX event, right?
But i do agree, at least a small "appetizer" during E³ would have been good, even if it would just be the official name and one game in addition to Zelda...
metalslimer
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I'm expecting a barebones launch at the very least rushed out the door for March. They would be slaughtered by investors delaying An entire system out of the fiscal year.
The thing is though that Nintendo doesn't have a huge user base that buys third party AAA core games in the first place and they haven't been a popular brand in this space for the past almost two decades.
"Remastered" games are selling but they are selling on systems that actually have solid (online) core gaming user bases. Nintendo doesn't have that at all and it will take a FAR longer time to build that with a release date that's outside of the busy AAA Holiday gaming season.
It's a VERY safe bet in my opinion that the NX will be in exactly the same spot that the Wii U is in in terms of AAA third party game support by Holiday 2018 (if not earlier). Again, I've stated my points pretty clearly. It's not jumping to conclusions when I've used past history, trends, as well as this news about the NX's release date to make my statements.
Glorified G
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Nintendo is going to march to the beat of their own drum and their dedicated fan base will follow. Debuting their new hardware a few months after this holiday wouldn't make a difference. Hell, delaying NX to 2018 and only having a Mario sports title in 2017 wouldn't make a change in future sales.
It's pretty much hardcore Nintendo fans left at this point. They'll follow Nintendo anywhere.
It's pretty much hardcore Nintendo fans left at this point. They'll follow Nintendo anywhere.
Saoshyant
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My take from the situation is that something went horribly wrong internally for them to miss the holiday season by a mere few months.
A simultaneous release everywhere will be good at least, but that's where the silver lining ends. They have nothing mind blowing or exciting to show for this E3 and this year's holiday season will be a disaster for them. Investors will panic, the general public will be confused, and Forbes will write three articles just this month about how "Nintendo is Doomed".
At a glance it doesn't look good, but I'll be open minded and wait for something to prove the situation isn't bad.
A simultaneous release everywhere will be good at least, but that's where the silver lining ends. They have nothing mind blowing or exciting to show for this E3 and this year's holiday season will be a disaster for them. Investors will panic, the general public will be confused, and Forbes will write three articles just this month about how "Nintendo is Doomed".
At a glance it doesn't look good, but I'll be open minded and wait for something to prove the situation isn't bad.
Sirolf
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The same excuse after ten years of HD development on consoles ?
I think NX launching in March is fine as long as the launch is strong. Basically consider it a 2017 Holiday launch (that I think was probably their original intention) that we're getting early as opposed to a delayed 2016 launch. They can't screw it up this time.
I'm hoping the delay was so that AMD can put Polaris in the thing and not just incompetence by Nintendo.
Hopefully they do have something they can release for Wii U to fill the gap or to at least placate current owners. If it's a drought for 9 months after June outside of a handful of 3rd party games + indies that's going to be a disaster and kill what goodwill is left amongst Wii U owners.
3DS should probably be okay.
I don't like the idea of only having Zelda playable at E3, but I'll see what the other details are before I pass final judgment on that.
I'm hoping the delay was so that AMD can put Polaris in the thing and not just incompetence by Nintendo.
Hopefully they do have something they can release for Wii U to fill the gap or to at least placate current owners. If it's a drought for 9 months after June outside of a handful of 3rd party games + indies that's going to be a disaster and kill what goodwill is left amongst Wii U owners.
3DS should probably be okay.
I don't like the idea of only having Zelda playable at E3, but I'll see what the other details are before I pass final judgment on that.
That's great and all, but that doesn't bring even a fraction of the exposure that a E3 press conference can give you.
E3 is significant because all the gaming press is right there. Having games playable means there are hundreds of articles being written about the experience. The conferences are liveblogged and commentated on hundreds of websites simultaneously.
I mean, I love the concept of the Nintendo Direct. But a suitable marketing replacement for a big conference it is not. They will have to arrange their own stage show with extended hands-on opportunities instead of a direct.
Huh? I'm saying that Zelda is their only playable game at E3. If they're not gonna show the NX, what else do they have planned for Wii U? As far as I know, Zelda is their only interesting game left for the console, nobody cares about whatever other crappy games third parties might show. Zelda will be the only playable game, but they sure as hell ain't gonna show a trailer of a non-playable Metroid or F-Zero Wii U game when the NX will be out in March 2017.
Not sure what was the whole point of your post anyway.
ArkhamFantasy
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Nintendo noticed that people are really excited for Persona 5, so they decided to use its marketing strategy as inspiration for Zelda.
Persona 5 releases in 2014!
Persona 5 releases in 2015!
Persona 5 releases in 2016!
Zelda releases in 2015!
Zelda releases in 2016!
Zelda releases in 2017!
I solved the riddle.
Persona 5 releases in 2014!
Persona 5 releases in 2015!
Persona 5 releases in 2016!
Zelda releases in 2015!
Zelda releases in 2016!
Zelda releases in 2017!
I solved the riddle.
That would be such a bad idea. They could get a more powerful box if they delayed it to holiday. Rushing out a product that might have to last 5 years feels like what happened with the Wii U
I'd honestly like to see them just release NX to no fanfare, because as you said the faithful would pick it up regardless.
Not only gaming press but a lot of news shows will run stories from E3 the week of.
metalslimer
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And yet they cannot afford to wait until holiday 2017. I still can't believe they are going into holiday 2016 with the lineup they have
Hopefully there is an issue with console production and not game production keeping it out of this year but then I don't know why there would be no games at E3. 3rd party support on this thing must be disastrous
Yeah, I can't imagine their plan from the start was to release it in March. Maybe it is literally the absolute earliest they could do it
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Jesus, mass media are reporting things like Oculus launch, announcements of new smartphones, etc., they will report about this event, too. Nothing at E³ could backfire, but you're overestimating the event.
Freaking Bild-"Zeitung" in Germany did report some rumors about NX once, and that's as mass media as it can be over here. (Quality of said outlet ignored for the sake of the discussion)
LOL, it's the very definition of jumping to conclusions, implying that nothing changes based former gens and historical evidence, and thus implying that Nintendo, a globally operating company, won't change a damn thing from their worst home console ever, or using the launch date of a system we, and most importantly, you, don't know anything from, for a year long prediction about game support.
Next, you imply Nintendo doesn't have a solid (online) core gaming user base. Focusing on the (online) part. Dare to lay out Nintendo's plans and it's online-infrastructure for the new system? You can't, but it can't be good because of Wii U? What a solid point you made here. Btw. you are aware that Nintendo sells remasters? With enough demand that they even continue doing so?
And finally, 3rd party games can sell, problem with Wii U was that sometimes the 3rds actively tried to make a Wii U port look like wasted money. Missing DLC, missing game/online modes, offering a better product cheaper than a port on Wii U at the same time.
Jumping.to.freaking.conclusions.
I don't mind the march 2017 release. Hopefully it means better software support on release and after release.
The lack of news on E3 surprises me though, is the best moment to star the marketing for it. Zelda being dealy sucks, not way getting around those news, it'll be akward now revealing it since they be bomb with questions about the nx version.
The lack of news on E3 surprises me though, is the best moment to star the marketing for it. Zelda being dealy sucks, not way getting around those news, it'll be akward now revealing it since they be bomb with questions about the nx version.
shanafan
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Microsoft released the Xbox 360 just 4 years after the original Xbox came out, and it sold like gangbusters.
I don't get it either. They may tease the NX concept even if it doesn't actually make an "appearance".
It is a catch 22. But rushing out a product like that would help in the short term, but could be real bad on the long term. But maybe if they do iterative consoles, it won't matter?
I doubt that in the current age of online media. I've already seen headlines and "breaking news"-articles about "Nintendo releasing their next console in March 2017 along with Zelda" on major mainstream news outlets here today. And those are all based on their investors conference.
In an age where every major tech event from Microsoft, Apple, Samsung etc. gets huge mainstream coverage along with feature lists, roadmaps and hardware previews, it should be possible and feasible for a console maker to announce and present new hardware outside of the "catch-all"-event that is E3 and still get proper attention (if not more).
I really, REALLY hope that there will be at least some Wii U related surprises left to unveil to tie us over in this case... Some Super Mario Maker and Splatoon DLC/updates perhaps, or even better another remaster like Super Mario Sunshine HD or something.
I was already miffed that the new Zelda would probably get a NX version but now that the Wii U version is likely to be delayed because of that new version, I'm genuinly disappointed as this only makes sense for tactical reasons to help promote the NX and not in any way for the fans who have bought a Wii U for this game and have been waiting for years for it already. This is assuming the game was on schedule for 2016 as far as the Wii U version goes.
Sigh...
Edit: going by the "Zelda = only playable game at E3" thread chances are maybe not so high for more Wii U games to be unveiled there I guess...which sucks. What is Nintendo expecting of us Wii U owners, to simply forget all these meagre Wii U years after they (hopefully) launch the NX with a large selection of games that were clearly taken out of the Wii U development schedule and put into the NX line-up?
I was already miffed that the new Zelda would probably get a NX version but now that the Wii U version is likely to be delayed because of that new version, I'm genuinly disappointed as this only makes sense for tactical reasons to help promote the NX and not in any way for the fans who have bought a Wii U for this game and have been waiting for years for it already. This is assuming the game was on schedule for 2016 as far as the Wii U version goes.
Sigh...
Edit: going by the "Zelda = only playable game at E3" thread chances are maybe not so high for more Wii U games to be unveiled there I guess...which sucks. What is Nintendo expecting of us Wii U owners, to simply forget all these meagre Wii U years after they (hopefully) launch the NX with a large selection of games that were clearly taken out of the Wii U development schedule and put into the NX line-up?
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