I sure hope not.
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Zelda for Wii U reveal @ Nintendo Treehouse: Live by Reggie, June 14 6PMCEST
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I sure hope not.
They don't need to go that far, just have an optional gender.
brandonh83
Banned
Oh the duels were awesome. We were just talking about boss designs I think, like art direction wise I mean. Some of them looked pretty goofy. Well, Ghirahim looked goofy too but in a good/bizarre way.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
There you go:
We bout to start a new avatar trend.. can you add that to my avatar please?
Heh, that doesn't really work in reverse. Magic throughout history is technology and phenomena that people don't understand. So magic and technology are indistinguishable. Fueling the robots with some energy source you might call magic and not electricity doesn't make them not machines, it makes them technology fueled by magic.
We know that Miyamoto's original premise for the series was that it was a Scifi setting where Link was collecting pieces of a computer. Over the years, especially starting with Wind Waker, they've been adding elements of that original vision into the series. In Wind Waker the Tower of the Gods is a technological tower filled with robots, and the boss is a robot designed by the gods to test the hero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loO5gDcjkb8
He makes electronic noises like the sound of servos moving. His arena is surrounded by a pit of circuitry that electrocutes you, and his walls are covered in similar circuit symbols to those found in this:
With Twilight Princess, the Temple of Time is essentially the alternate timeline version of Tower of the Gods. The technology isn't as overt as in Wind Waker, but it's still technological and associated with the Oocca, who built technology like the city in the sky, clawshot, spinner, and cannons. They created the dominion rod, which uses "magic" to control robots.
And then we have Skyward Sword, which is very overt with Fi being an AI, robots, factories, train depots, the gate of time, etc.
Get_craycray
Banned
You want it in front of Link or behind him?
Thank god they're calling this a "full reveal" with an "in-depth look", then.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Pixar reject
Some were good I agree. Others were just a bit too "family friendly" I guess? and it kind of dragged things down.
I still really like the game though.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
They saw Reggie playing Mario Kart and the gameplay mechanic of Epona automatically avoiding running into trees was born, this is Fils Aime's time to shine.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
How about behind, top right?
Heh, that doesn't really work in reverse. Magic throughout history is technology and phenomena that people don't understand. So magic and technology are indistinguishable. Fueling the robots with some energy source you might call magic and not electricity doesn't make them not machines, it makes them technology fueled by magic.
We know that Miyamoto's original premise for the series was that it was a Scifi setting where Link was collecting pieces of a computer. Over the years, especially starting with Wind Waker, they've been adding elements of that original vision into the series. In Wind Waker the Tower of the Gods is a technological tower filled with robots, and the boss is a robot designed by the gods to test the hero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loO5gDcjkb8
He makes electronic noises like the sound of servos moving. His arena is surrounded by a pit of circuitry that electrocutes you, and his walls are covered in similar circuit symbols to those found in this:
With Twilight Princess, the Temple of Time is essentially the alternate timeline version of Tower of the Gods. The technology isn't as overt as in Wind Waker, but we know it's still technological and associated with the Oocca, who built technology like the city in the sky, clawshot, and cannons. The Dominion Rod is used to control the various robots.
And then we have Skyward Sword, which is very overt with Fi being an AI, robots, factories, train depots, the gate of time, etc.
Yeah, I know it doesn't REALLY work in reverse, but all I'm trying to say is we'll never reach a point in zelda where it's all technology/science/sci-fi, I think there will always be a magical aspect to it. Sure, it's technology, but it's fantastical, magical, impossible technology. At no point do I think there will be a retconned explanation that everything in zelda has been because of some ancient technology and magic isn't what's behind all of it. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, I just don't see it ever heading that way.
It'll always have strong ties to magic, even if it's just robots powered by magic (stone, metallic, you name it). At the very least the "AI" powering the robots will be magic - we'll never get the equivalent of a computer. I'm fine w/ technology being in zelda (spirit tracks, for example), but I don't want a zelda where there is ZERO magic and 100% technology. Magic and fantasy must be at the core in some way. I like the idea that in the world of zelda, computers/electronics are essentially magic, which is a spin on the original computer concept for zelda 1.
kuroneko0509
Member
i guess this size is good enough for avatar badge?? or need to be smaller? hrmmm
edit: i guess a bit smaller is better....
edit: i guess a bit smaller is better....
dampflokfreund
Banned
Where did they said full reveal, though? The website only says gameplay and behind the scenes info.
Get_craycray
Banned
Choose your favorite:
(no shade on the last one)
Edit: One more with a smaller symbol
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Choose your favorite:
(no shade on the last one)
All good! Took the middle. Thank you!
DeployThatPizza
Member
I'm hyped for this.
Get_craycray
Banned
timetokill
Banned
The co-op in this game is gonna be sick
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
People love making up quotes.
I saw "in-depth" but not the other.
I'm hoping for that feature. Could be incredible
Well, yeah, that's the whole idea of this trope. Fantasy setting where misunderstood technology is considered magic. If they went full sci-fi it wouldn't be that anymore.
Clearly they're not going that way. I mean people think this is some big change, but nothing we've seen so far is more technological than Wind Waker and Skyward Sword. Link is clearly salvaging the technology to use.
His arrows are pieces of technology tied to a stick with rope. The robot gohma is covered in grass, making it look more ancient than Wind Waker's and Skyward Sword's robots.
I mean, there definitely IS magic in Zelda. Or, at least, what can be considered magic. Zelda has powers that she inherits through her bloodline and such. But even then, I mean, superheroes have powers and they aren't considered magic if their power has an explanation. Marvel even explained the Norse gods as being aliens with advanced technology and their powers come from that and their alien physiology. So even the magic and Zelda could just be something explainable. They'll never do that, though, and shouldn't.
More and more it seems like the goddesses were just technologically advanced people, like Chrono Trigger or Xenogears.
OricWindstar
Member
I mean, apparently you can.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Zelda playable sections. Link is just Link.
Atleast thats what I think its going to happen
SinCityAssassin
Member
Three years.
brandonh83
Banned
No?
I thought it was originally going to be holiday 2015.
DeployThatPizza
Member
I'm interested to see what Anouma means by removing the boundaries.
brandonh83
Banned
Revealed in 2014, originally releasing in holiday '15. If it comes out by March or with the NX launch at March, it'll still only have been delayed by a year and some change, year and a half at most.
SinCityAssassin
Member
2015, 2016, 2017.
Holiday 2015 to presumably March 2017 is a little less than a year and a half.
brandonh83
Banned
You're not thinking about this clearly, haha
It was originally coming at the end of 2015. 2016 is the only full year between its original release date and final.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Agreed, I hope it will. I think it will, I love Zelda
AcademicSaucer
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Lord_Byron28
Member
My guess is it takes place sometime in between SS and OoT. The setting and everything seems like it would match up well with a Hyrule after the humans rejoined the surface. I think I remember watching some theory speculating that Zelda wii u is about the war that Midna spoke of when she told the background of the Twili.
HylianScribe
Member
I know the Skyward Sword comparisons were being made, but don't forget The Wind Waker.
However, my hunch is that this game is set after Skyward Sword and is set on the surface below the skies -- what will become the Kingdom of Hyrule down the timeline a bit. Maybe something related to the backstory of The Minish Cap and the events mentioned in Hyrule Historia, perhaps, that take place after the end of Skyward Sword but before The Minish Cap.
See? THREE years!
I'm just more worried that I'm waiting 6 years for yet another disappointing 3D Zelda. This would make it 3 in a row. LBW being awesome gives me hope, but the constant delays and no shows at big Nintendo events have me worried...
Hopefully it means you can go anywhere you want at any time and the game won't funnel you into a single path.
Then again with Aonuma
kuroneko0509
Member
dun think so. the closest one that i found is the optimized 2.7MB ones that Rösti posted on other thread
i guess it's easier to ask him or other with press site access directly to get the raw 16MB ones
surprised those nintendo news sites didn't bother reuploading it at all
I'm torn.
On the one hand I want to watch because that world that they've shown off so far does not look interesting to me and I want to know that this will be good - that this will take Zelda into the modern era. I need to see something to make me believe in what they're doing.
On the other hand I want to go into the experience as fresh as possible, and if that means I get let down so be it. And yet my curiosity as to what will happen with that big open world (and what has changed since we last saw it) persists.
On the one hand I want to watch because that world that they've shown off so far does not look interesting to me and I want to know that this will be good - that this will take Zelda into the modern era. I need to see something to make me believe in what they're doing.
On the other hand I want to go into the experience as fresh as possible, and if that means I get let down so be it. And yet my curiosity as to what will happen with that big open world (and what has changed since we last saw it) persists.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
You wrap around the world map once you reach its edge.
Good points.
High five!Rösti;202739197 said:
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Rösti
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Gimme a few moments and I'll upload it on Google Drive.
There you go: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65AKixBZ4JFcUxHY1pxM3hKWmM
Yeah, I was thinking that, too. The game will have connections to OoT, Twilight Princess, and Majora's Mask. I think it could tie Majora and the Twili together. That would be a good story.
Speaking of the Twili, their "magic" is very techno-looking, too. With the black squares and glowing circuitry. The robotic wallmasters they made to protect the sols look a lot like Gohdan from Wind Waker:
The whole Palace of Twilight is very techno.