You must be pretty alone then because BF4 had an incredible retention rate.
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Battlefield 1 Reveal Trailer, PC/PS4/XB1, Oct 21st [Up2: Screens, Info, Open Beta]
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So we should not be hyped because you aren't confident in DICE.
Got it.
Everyone, dial back the hype because SlightlySweatyPanda isn't feeling it.
Awesome, this is already sounding like the most interesting Battlefield campaign to date.
Very cool
I'm actually looking forward to this campaign, which I never thought would happen.
More_Badass
Member
Remaining optimistic for the campaign
StrangeTaco
Member
Fantastic news, game just keeps looking better and better.
Watch as they remove the server browser and have matchmaking only a la Battlefront. I cry.
Omnii-chan
Member
Well its the first world war. Makes sense to me. They could have named it something far worse.
This game isn't meant for as casual audiences as Battlefront was, so I'm guessing they'll just use Battlelog again.
TheTylerDurden
Member
I'm guessing that 99 percent of what you saw were cutscenes from the campaign. I didn't see much actual gameplay in there at all.
Miasma
Member
No war is glorious i had a family member that fought in the first and second world war, i think its great that they are visiting this era and fully realizing it in a Triple A game and I am sure they will get across how awful and brutal this kind of warfare was.
how is it any more outrageous than what gets depicted in any other military FPS
The Faceless Master
Member
Bedouin Woman confirmed playable in campaign!?
hope for MP!?
hope for MP!?
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
There also needs to be a console server browser and server renting like BF3, BF4, and BFH.
So yeah, WW1 can be fun ! I'm glad they chose this.
The graphics look a lot like Battlefront, especially desert and forest who seem to be Tatooine and Endor.
Strange that they don't talk about WW1 but "All-Out-War". The name is also strange, but as I stated in the time count thread, it's not worse than Xbox One or Wii U.
Yes, but there is something called a "media plan" or "PR strategy". You have to keep the players interested so you show a little each time (every month, then every two weeks, then every week, then every two days...). That means that actual gameplay will be seen at E3. I can bet that it will be the showcase of 1 mode, 1 map, and that this is likely to be seen in the beta later this year.
I mean, it's not like this is not the standard media plan.
And to be honest, it is not CGI, it's the Frostbite running on 8K, downsampled to 1080p, compressed to Youtube, with selected moments of what is probably the campaign.
So ? Where do you draw the line between "art" and "non art" ? Well, you don't, and people thought about it before your were born so that you don't stop thinking when it's not "art".
The CoD or BF games would be an amazing subject of study to see how war is depicted and how their representation build biased ideas in a collective society (they sell dozens of millions). You should check out this Wikipedia page and get interested in semiology.
Everyone who thinks "This is just a video game" or "Video games are video games" should check out the page too. You'll learn the word "Tautology".
And yes you can get offended, this is normal, but use this offense to criticize what is depicted in the game and not only this one but also those you won't. Have a sharp mind.
The graphics look a lot like Battlefront, especially desert and forest who seem to be Tatooine and Endor.
Strange that they don't talk about WW1 but "All-Out-War". The name is also strange, but as I stated in the time count thread, it's not worse than Xbox One or Wii U.
Yes, but there is something called a "media plan" or "PR strategy". You have to keep the players interested so you show a little each time (every month, then every two weeks, then every week, then every two days...). That means that actual gameplay will be seen at E3. I can bet that it will be the showcase of 1 mode, 1 map, and that this is likely to be seen in the beta later this year.
I mean, it's not like this is not the standard media plan.
And to be honest, it is not CGI, it's the Frostbite running on 8K, downsampled to 1080p, compressed to Youtube, with selected moments of what is probably the campaign.
So ? Where do you draw the line between "art" and "non art" ? Well, you don't, and people thought about it before your were born so that you don't stop thinking when it's not "art".
The CoD or BF games would be an amazing subject of study to see how war is depicted and how their representation build biased ideas in a collective society (they sell dozens of millions). You should check out this Wikipedia page and get interested in semiology.
Everyone who thinks "This is just a video game" or "Video games are video games" should check out the page too. You'll learn the word "Tautology".
And yes you can get offended, this is normal, but use this offense to criticize what is depicted in the game and not only this one but also those you won't. Have a sharp mind.
KnightHart
Member
Basically the original status quo is beginning to take form once more but reversed. Before it was COD in World War Two from COD1 to COD3, with Battlefield tackling modern warfare and the future with BF2 and BF2142. Now it's Battlefield tackling World War One with COD tackling the future. Both franchises are better off without trying to constantly chase after the same goal. It's better when they both split off and try to do their own thing.
In the livestream they were saying your squad is now a group that can go around throughout modes and maps.
Giant Panda
Member
So they're going to butcher historical accuracy in order to make the game fun right? Because sticking to a realistic WW1 setting would probably result in unfun guns, vehicles and equipment.
ramuh
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CarbonFire
Member
Why would they spend all that money on improving their engine? It's not like their games don't already sell. When they're no longer the dominant player sitting on their laurels, then they will be forced to make capital investments in creating or appropriating significant technological upgrades. Until then, milk it baby!
UnforgivenTwin
Member
Exactly.
Fantastic. I'm more hyped now than ever.
SwordStruck
Member
Way more interested in this than the direction CoD is going, definitely getting it day one.
CarbonFire
Member
I know this SOUNDS good, but it has me slightly worried about the server situation surrounding this game. If this is another Battlefront nightmare on PC with a blackbox matchmaker only and no community servers, then I'm totally out no matter how good it may look.
I HOPE DICE isn't that stupid to burn their community like that, but with EA pulling the strings....I dunno.
If there is no server browser or community rentable servers they might as well cancel the pc version.
Miasma
Member
Most people have family members affected by the first world war, I have a close family that fought in the first and second world wars. There is no glory in recreating any kind of war but what makes it any different compared to a WWII or for that matter any other game depicting any war. I bet you have played many games depicting some kind of warfare. I am glad that this era is finally realized in the format of a triple A title.
Love this. After reading about the Harlem Hellfighters today, seeing the key art character depicted as one is really neat. I'm glad they will be able to bring a lot of attention to stories not often learned about.
What you won't enjoy your guns jamming every other bullet? If the gun fires at all.
DICE LA fixed BF4. Great game, now. Bad at launch.
Given everything they refined on BF4, I'm hoping this is a much smoother launch.
True, if you wan to look at something way more conservative, look at the recent Ubisoft games.
The Division is the portrayal of the fears of the far-right (chaos vs order, how the crowd behave, the needs for an oppressive State), Assassin's Creed Unity the representation of the far-right memory on the French Revolution and the fear of the citizens as they unite, and Watch Dogs the defense of a society where the ends justifies the means without any "common good goal", remorse or revolutionary process. Didn't play AC:Syndicate, from what I've read it had good writing and was helped by the setting so they don't seem to have messed up this one. I'd say that's because they have writers who think about what they write and can convince the editorial team that this is the way to go. That seems to be something DICE wants to do with BF1, at least they seem conscious that their game has an impact on representations of the war and that they can make a little difference for people who have misconceptions.
Haven't done much research on the Far Cry, but so far they are games where you kill everyone to get more ressources and conquer territory by removing (killing) everyone you find. Seems to reproduce the sweet couple of capitalism and imperialism. In Primal, murder is justified by the fact that the ennemies are red and cannibals (convenient!). That's more common.
Big Chungus
Member
whats makes a game interesting to you?
Giant Panda
Member
That, and trench warfare wasn't known to be the most exciting. Planes were also in their infancy. I'm sure the game will be great, but I just find the choice of WW1 kind of odd.
TemplaerDude
Member
You'd probably yawn your way through WWI, eh?
ChasingComets
Member
My ears bleed from the godawful dub step. You'd think a WW1 setting would let them take the chance to revisit the glory days of orchestral music (which we'll probably still in the final game, if I were to guess.)
Still, the setting looks bloody interesting, and I love they they seem keen on bringing back destruction in a big way.
Still, the setting looks bloody interesting, and I love they they seem keen on bringing back destruction in a big way.
More "WW1 was nothing but trenches" stuff.
This game will end up being educational more than anything.
I don't mean to be cynical, but at what? That wasn't gameplay...