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Doom review codes not getting sent out until launch day?
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Mushroomer25
Member
If it's really a concern, outlets will just say the score isn't final - adjusting once servers are live. This isn't an insurmountable problem, especially for a game with a highly anticipated single player component.
Well in all fairness it can still be a great game. I mean if anything just wait a few days for some reviews before buying it if you're unsure. I'm probably gonna wait a day or two to see how it is. At least there has been quite a bit of footage of this so I mean it's not like their hiding it.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Yeah, they are placing all this importance on the multiplayer when it was a fucking mess in the beta. A game trying to be everything and succeeding at none of it. The multiplayer will be a ghost town in 6 months or less anyway. Almost anyone buying this is doing so for the campaign so they must be getting some bad feedback from internal reviews.
A bad look all around for this game.
I'm not really concerned that they didn't send it out due to the game being mediocre. Fallout 4 got sent out early to reviewers afterall. But then I don't have any faith in game reviewers when it comes to games like Doom (or in general really), especially in regards to playing the higher difficulties etc.
Movalpolos
Banned
This game is going to be a mess isn't it?
Nah.
NullPointer
Member
Not pre-ordering has got to be the very lowest level possible of freaking out.
Holding review copies is a red flag, and red flags are just a reason to be cautious. If the game is great there'll be plenty of voices and video to showcase it soon enough.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I knew I didn't like the look of the footage I had seen.
Which is why I've never understood the 'drama' over reviewers not getting early copies of a game. I mean so what ? Are people so impatient they can't wait until after the games out and gets reviews before making a purchasing decision ?
Oh that's right yes they are, far too impatient and DEMAND SCORES RIGHT NOW
It isn`t about `trusting reviews`, it`s that generally when a publisher decides to not send out review copies of a game before release it shows a lack of confidence in the game, which is a bad sign. Same as when movie studios don`t hold screenings of their movies before opening day. In this instance it seems like Bethesda is blaming it on the game being so reliant on being online, so that might not hold here.
Messofanego
Banned
You'll wait for a game to be $15 just because review codes are not sent out at the right time? Bethesda definitely fucked up here just like they've done in previous instances. But it sounds like you weren't interested in the game anyway. If this is a matter of principle for you, have you never got a game where there weren't pre-launch reviews?
Anyway, it took literally until this gameplay video played on PC to convince me the single-player could be awesome.
That's a huge red flag. Since they made a big deal of the singleplayer, there excuses doesn't hold much water.
If you have infinite money and time then go ahead, but for everyone else is best to wait until other people played it.
John Kowalski
Banned
The less emphasis there is to release reviews at release date the better place reviewers are in to properly gestate their criticisms and pieces, so i have no problem with this. Others will occupy that space anyway.
RedAssedApe
Banned
did "influencers" get the chance to play it versus "reviewers"?
7DollarHagane
Banned
I was really excited until I played the multiplayer, when i decided just to wait on the game.
Then some of the single player footage looked a little better, so i came around to it.
But this has me back on the other side of the fence.
I think really good reviews of the single player are the only thing that will get me back on the buy train.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
It's clearly not going to be the best game ever but if the campaign can deliver a fun shooter, similar to what Wolfenstein did, then I'm fine with that.
Comfort Jones
Banned
There's been some impressions posted from people who got it early on the launch trailer thread and enough footage where I'm convinced it's not gonna be anything horrifically bad.
Still a shitty move.
Still a shitty move.
Don't get overworked people. lol
The crescendo of (positive) reviews hitting on release day is very vital for a game's marketing push. They must have a very good reason to forgo it.
Some of you guys are having some pretty funny knee-jerk reactions to this news. No early review does not equal horrid game and can come about as a result of a number of reasons.
Everything I've seen regarding the campaign seems amazing. I will be trying out the MP but that's not the main selling point for me anyway.
Being a DOOM fan myself since the 90s, this is already pre-ordered and ready to go.
Everything I've seen regarding the campaign seems amazing. I will be trying out the MP but that's not the main selling point for me anyway.
Being a DOOM fan myself since the 90s, this is already pre-ordered and ready to go.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Titles that a publisher are confident in actually get reviewed early these days to increase hype and excitement and drive late pre-orders a week before release. Uncharted 4 and many others did this because they knew the game was good.
The only reason publishers don't give out early copy is because they're worried about the scores. The ONLY reason. That people are still blind to this after it's been going on for so many years in not only games but any media that gets reviewed is silly to me.
Pathfinder
Member
No pre-launch reviews, no pre-order.
Sorry, Bethesda. I'll wait.
Sorry, Bethesda. I'll wait.
Messofanego
Banned
You're on the same boat I am, didn't think much of it after playing the beta until I saw more single-player except I'm not as bothered by late review codes because I'm not buying the game at launch anyway.
PyroPaperPlanes
Member
That first post.
Apoleptica
Banned
I feel like multiplayer is a huge component to the new Doom so it sort of makes sense.
Psychoward
Banned
I didn't like the mp beta at all so I already lost interest, this isn't a good sign though.
7DollarHagane
Banned
What could possibly make you feel this way? The multiplayer was totally throwaway and tacked on.
I think Bethesda is trying to avoid a single player campaign fps review, which according to Wolfenstein, nets you a sub-80, best-case scenario. It totally makes sense from that perspective that you would want a fully featured game reviewed.
Of course the easy and obvious answer makes sense too: the game simply isn't up to snuff.
Of course the easy and obvious answer makes sense too: the game simply isn't up to snuff.
Simply Sami
Member
6 months?
You are being very kind.
Look at the multiplayer games out this month alone. Battle born, Uncharted 4, Homefront and Overwatch. Doom has no chance if the beta is anything to go by. They should have let reviewers review the single player atleast. That's what I'm more interested in.
Hip Hop
Member
The beta wasn't even a good sign to begin with.
I've been expecting bad reviews after playing it.
It's obviously the push the game had, it wouldn't be wrong to see it as important as the single player component.
It seems like a throwaway because that's how bad it was. Not expecting any miracles with the SP after that.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Does anyone here watch Gameplay videos? What I've seen of the campaign looks really good. Unless there's terrible pacing issues or too much repetition, or something else not evident in the gameplay we've seen, the single player looks pretty damn awesome. I couldn't care less about multiplayer, but maybe that's what they think will sell the game and if it's weak, then maybe they're hiding it from reviews because of that.
capylikesgames
Banned
How is that a red flag? I think having an embargo 'til launch so reviewers also cover the multiplayer is a fair excuse. The singleplayer looks fun, anyways. Not groundbreaking or anything, but I'm sure it'll end up being scored fairly well.
Also, in regards Wolfenstein's MC score, since when has 80 been considered a bad score for a game? I'd say anything scoring a 70-80 is still a great game worth looking at, anything below that is probably nothing special.
Also, in regards Wolfenstein's MC score, since when has 80 been considered a bad score for a game? I'd say anything scoring a 70-80 is still a great game worth looking at, anything below that is probably nothing special.
Robobandit
Member
It is a potential red flag in this case because they aren't providing review copies at all prior to release.
It isn't that they were given copies and asked not to talk about it until the launch date, they simply weren't given copies.
Bloodporne
Member
The MP component was outsourced and made Serious Sam feel like AAA, I hope for their sake and for people who pre-ordered it that that isn't the case.
It's not bad but games with sub 85 tend to sell less, so that's what they care about.
It's marketing.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Ooooooooh noooooooooooo....
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
SP looks a lot more promising than MP imo and the MP beta had a fair amount of mixed opinions from what I saw so I wouldn't be saying the game is so reliant on MP if I was them.
schaft0620
Member
Serpens007
Member
You are right, but we live in an internet-outrage era. Anything below 85 mc becomes a buy-it-on-sale (except if you spend 500 million bucks in marketing). Adding that pc gamers mostly wanted an Unreal Tournament mp and they wont get it, Bethesda probably wants to mix those complains with people enjoying it, like the open beta, in regards to MP. For SP they probably are sure it will be good (they wouldnt have shown all those SP vídeos if they werent)
I hope the majority of those interested in the game watched at least some of the hour and a half recorded live stream and have come to a decision regardless of what reviews may say and if they are ready day one or not. I watched nearly all of it and am very pleased with how it looked, MP was OK but I never got to play Doom's MP as a kid due to lack of internet so honestly I'm in almost exclusively for the single player content. Ofcourse reviews, professional and consumer based, are important to know about bugs, crashes, incompatibilities and performance issues encountered so I certainly won't blame anyone lamenting the wait for reviews who want to jump in as fast as possible, but I'm not worried about the day one embargo thanks to the real time final code footage we've already gotten being a show of confidence enough. Is it odd since they've already shown so much to the public, yes, but as others have pointed out games have had day one embargos before and turned out just fine.
i HeaR MusiC
Member
I feel like most console players enjoyed the MP beta. Which imo is where most sales will be anyways. I enjoyed the beta personally and everything they have shown about the SP has looked solid. What exactly are you guys thinking they are hiding..lol. We literally know just about everything about this game and have got a chance to see how it plays.
_/¯Goodacre0081
Member
wouldn't that just be called a free copy of the game instead of "review code"?
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