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Doom review codes not getting sent out until launch day?
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Spiral Insanity
Banned
No? What I played on PS4 was a lot of fun and performed well. Preordered the PC version. Response was not the opposite of glowing.
Backfoggen
Banned
Lmfao at calling this a fiasco.
This is almost always a bad thing and anybody in here saying by different is in denial.
Holding review copies doesn't necessarily mean the game is going to be panned, but is does usually mean it is going to underperform critically. The trouble with this game and unlike Destiny/The Division is it has no expectations. People are not expecting this game to be a 85+ game. Destiny/The Division review copies were clearly held back because of the huge investment and expectations in those games. Those games delivering a 80ish metascore was a bit of a bad look considering the investment and hype. The same can't be said for this game.
Holding review copies doesn't necessarily mean the game is going to be panned, but is does usually mean it is going to underperform critically. The trouble with this game and unlike Destiny/The Division is it has no expectations. People are not expecting this game to be a 85+ game. Destiny/The Division review copies were clearly held back because of the huge investment and expectations in those games. Those games delivering a 80ish metascore was a bit of a bad look considering the investment and hype. The same can't be said for this game.
I've been mildly excited about a new Doom game for a while, but to honest I haven't seen any videos or screenshots that have got me interested. The whole thing feels a bit like the build up to Dragon Age 2, where I just didn't see anything that got me excited, right up until launch, and eventually just cancelled my pre-order. Does anyone else think Doom looks a bit m'eh, or have I missed some really cool stuff?
AHA-Lambda
Member
Seriously? The thing must 60GB ffs
uncleslappy
nethack is my favorite dark souls clone
A Doom is a doozy because...
The pre-load period kicks off tomorrow at 12am ET.
Gaiaknight
Member
The general public doesn't care about reviews.
GHG
Gold Member
But how would this work with all the suspicious uncharted 4 reviews out there?
All it would do is further deceive consumers.
That's true to some degree, but the actual issue is that such a system would come at no small cost and be dissuasive more than anything else.
Camp1nCarl
Member
This doesn't particularly matter to me because I played in a few of the closed and the open beta so I have a good idea of what to expect. What I don't like is how they consider MP and Snapmap a "huge" part of the experience. The MP was an amalgamation of several different types of MP games. Instead of being simply a good arena shooter or a good load out shooter it tries to be too much of everything and IMO ends up failing to be great at anything. Nonetheless I hope the SP is solid, it looked great from footage but I simply can't justify purchasing this game currently for only a potentially decent SP.
Gaiaknight
Member
game sales are so front loaded most of the time plus most people have alreayd made up there mind if they are gonna get a game before it releases so they can pre-order.
I wasn't saying otherwise. Of course those who've made up their mind are unlikely to change it; I was referring to the impact on uninformed/whimsical purchases.
Militaratus
Member
Of course it's a joke, a very bad one.
I kinda get all over the place when joking and some people take it super-serial But on topic again, why didn't Bethesda send review codes on time and giving reviewers time to at least get a decent opinion of the single player, before having to rush their time on multiplayer so they can get their review out on time-ish. So what if the multiplayer servers aren't online yet, unless the game is online-only and denies single-player progress when offline?
Marvel
could never
Are you suggesting there's some kind of grand conspiracy in regard to Uncharted 4's reviews? Sites as disparate in size from the Gamespot's of the world to the tiniest little self-ran blog are giving it 9's and 10's. They're all rating it in lock-step?
DOOM will be fine. It's just one of those games that I think a lot of people value more at $40 than at $60, particularly after the underwhelming multi-player beta.
phant0m
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Yautja_Warrior
Member
Doom could be a tough one to review, because the original is still loved so much. It will either get ripped for being too old school / too much like the original, with not enough changes or it will get ripped for changing things too much and not feeling like Doom anymore, hope they get the balance right.
I'm expecting 7's and 8's when the reviews come in though, as nothing I've seen makes it look really bad or anything and the campaign looks decent enough, hopefully reviewers won't be too harsh on it.
I'm expecting 7's and 8's when the reviews come in though, as nothing I've seen makes it look really bad or anything and the campaign looks decent enough, hopefully reviewers won't be too harsh on it.
GHG
Gold Member
Bloodporne
Member
I highly doubt the SP will be some sort of giant train wreck but instead am assuming it to be highly mediocre, generic and ultimately forgettable. Based on the marketing campaign, Bethesda dumped serious cash into this thing and is really gambling big here which if what I previously wrote is the case, will most certainly not cut it for them financially.
My assumption, or jump to a conclusion, is that they're exercising a bit of damage control to get all that Day 1 and near Day 1 impulse buy cash in without interruption to brace for what comes after the, more than likely, mediocre reviews. I think id really tried but the talent just isn't there anymore and the writing is on the wall.
All that being said, my utter frustration with this game is the fact that we're talking about Doom here. I grew up with this franchise, waited patiently for Doom 3 bla bla bla and a generic yet serviceable and playable enough FPS with a Doom license slapped on it to me is worse than just letting the franchise die.
My assumption, or jump to a conclusion, is that they're exercising a bit of damage control to get all that Day 1 and near Day 1 impulse buy cash in without interruption to brace for what comes after the, more than likely, mediocre reviews. I think id really tried but the talent just isn't there anymore and the writing is on the wall.
All that being said, my utter frustration with this game is the fact that we're talking about Doom here. I grew up with this franchise, waited patiently for Doom 3 bla bla bla and a generic yet serviceable and playable enough FPS with a Doom license slapped on it to me is worse than just letting the franchise die.
Are you saying Doom 3 was generic and barely serviceable or this Doom? The former I agree on but at least this one looks like a blast to play.
March of the Crabs
Member
Not a big deal since reviewers are no more qualified than us here on GAF to critique a game. Just don't buy it day 1 and wait for GAF opinions. Problem solved.
This DOES make me slightly concerned for the quality of the game but the alpha/beta were a blast and the stream looked great so I have hope.
This DOES make me slightly concerned for the quality of the game but the alpha/beta were a blast and the stream looked great so I have hope.
Bloodporne
Member
I didn't say *barely* serviceable. My comments are about this reboot. I'm not a fan of Doom 3 but I give it credit for being creative and trying its own things back then even if it ultimately failed for my tastes. My biggest problem with it was the introduction of the whole enemy teleporting/spawning right in front and behind you at every turn which completely went against what I enjoyed about Doom 1/2. You couldn't really retreat and plan, be strategic very much or anything because it insisted on that random factor. I assume they thought it would create tension, but it just sucked and felt lazy.
Well, I think that's just it: with a game like this, there is simply no way to make everybody happy -- the second you introduce keys that open doors (as this game has), you've now alienated the subset of FPS players that believes such a thing should never occur.
I don't think it's a good thing to not send out review copies, but I understand why they haven't in this case, if their logic is basically "You know, it's Doom. There's no way what we've done here is going to be anything but divisive." I think they've been very fair in showing the game, trailers, *long* demos, and a multiplayer beta that should alleviate fears that there's anything mediocre about the performance or visuals. I think they're confident they have a good product for people who like what Doom is about. I don't think they are at all confident that it's going to get good reviews for sticking to its roots as a gory, fast-paced shooter with old school sensibilities.
Reviewers probably will be harsh. Honestly, that's fine -- they should stick to their guns with regards to what is important to them from an FPS game. I don't think they should make a 'special regard' for Doom just because of its heritage, or because of the game it's trying to emulate. But I do think when that first 70 hits, or whatever it is, that people should hold off on the knee-jerk "Oh it must be a pile of shit" remarks, especially if they actually like old school shooter campaigns. Just be aware that your expectation of what the game should be is likely quite different from theirs.
dodgykebaab
Banned
You could read this as one of two things.
1) They want to keep everything not show in the beta a nice surprise for the players.
2) It's quite bad and they know it, they want to keep a lid on it up until the very last moment.
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- Either way the answer to both of the questions is don't pre-order. You can find many outlets that give spoiler free reviews once it's launched so you don't need to spoil the surprise and can still not get ripped off.
1) They want to keep everything not show in the beta a nice surprise for the players.
2) It's quite bad and they know it, they want to keep a lid on it up until the very last moment.
--------------------------------------------------------------
- Either way the answer to both of the questions is don't pre-order. You can find many outlets that give spoiler free reviews once it's launched so you don't need to spoil the surprise and can still not get ripped off.
SerTapTap
Member
Point 1 is easily solved by having a day 1 review embargo and giving codes early. You can (but shouldn't IMO) even embargo specific details from being revealed in reviews, Nintendo used to do it a lot.
There's very little reason to ever not send review codes early.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
My order just shipped so should be able to give you some impressions tomorrow.
I must say I'm a little skeptical but really looking forward to playing. I think even if the game is far from perfect it'll have some redeeming features.
I must say I'm a little skeptical but really looking forward to playing. I think even if the game is far from perfect it'll have some redeeming features.
RowdyReverb
Member
I'm keeping my pre-order, and I'll enjoy my 7-8/10 throwback FPS. I've seen enough gameplay to be convinced the campaign will be enjoyable, and the game felt mechanically sound in the beta.
JustSomeone
Member
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I really hope it does well enough to warrant a sequel that doesn't take another decade and then some to come out...
GHG
Gold Member
Well how can anyone argue with your conclusion?
You came up with such a compelling argument.
Jakartalado
Member
I just got every weapon in the game and now I feel.... overwhelmed!!!
Enemies are faster, more agressive and they are coming in so many numbers!!!! I just got the BFG (took 15 minutes to solve a stupid puzzle) and game keeps delivering.
I mean, like it a lot, but I won't do my review so early. I saw something at the main menu and I wish to see at least one type to give my opinion.
I guess it's spoiler-ish.... so....
In the mean time.... I'll post some pictures in 10 minutes
Enemies are faster, more agressive and they are coming in so many numbers!!!! I just got the BFG (took 15 minutes to solve a stupid puzzle) and game keeps delivering.
I mean, like it a lot, but I won't do my review so early. I saw something at the main menu and I wish to see at least one type to give my opinion.
I guess it's spoiler-ish.... so....
I found at the main menu the option to turn off the BOSS HEALTH GAUGE....
But I haven't found any after 8 hours of campaing.... since I got every weapon, maybe now the game starts with some surprises
But I haven't found any after 8 hours of campaing.... since I got every weapon, maybe now the game starts with some surprises
In the mean time.... I'll post some pictures in 10 minutes
Luc1fersBeard
Member
Hey pal, where did you order from. UK based?
MiguelItUp
Member
You're doing god's work sir. Thank you! Not to mention your posts about the game are hyping me up even more so which I didn't even think was possible.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Bloodporne
Member
I never thought this day would come haha
Puzzles are back too? Nice!
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Glad to hear you're enjoying it! I'll ask the same question I did a few pages back; is every enemy encounter arena based, or are there some scattered between levels?
SimplyGames, really hoping it'll be here tomorrow as it despatched early afternoon and it was first class. Cost me £32.
Rage is one of my favourite shooters of last gen, I think it's genuinely great. Fuck all y'all!
Diferentigual
Banned
That's crazy low in my opinion. That game should be at least an 87.
Rap2thaMoon
Member
Rage is one of my favourite shooters of last gen, I think it's genuinely great. Fuck all y'all!
Feels like there are far too few of us...Rage was great, the biggest problem was the story which was one big mess other than that it's a very enjoyable game especially the gun play.
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