NX could be a negative -4 on your scale, and it'd still be "closer" in terms of power to XB1 than PS4.
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Emily Rogers: NX Not Using x86 Architecture - Won't Blow Away Current Gen Consoles
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NX could be a negative -4 on your scale, and it'd still be "closer" in terms of power to XB1 than PS4.
To be fair, Emily was all over the place with that blog post. She obviously didn't fully understand what she was talking about, but she can't admit that because she's trying to sound be a voice of reason. I think she should seriously consider having someone else read over her rumor posts before posting them. She's just not a very good writer. That's why there's so much confusion and open interpretation whenever she says something.
Your analogy makes no sense in the context. 5 is closer to 6 than to 10, but nobody cares about this beyond kindergarten. Even so, if you want to clarify how big 5 is, you wouldn't say "5 is closer to 6 than to 10" (because that would place 5 anywhere from -∞ to 7.999999999), you would just say "5 is right before 6".
If it's less powerful than XB1, it's very clear where it is in comparison to PS4. It wouldn't need to mention PS4 for that. "NX is close to XB1 in terms of raw power". End of story. Everybody except you would understand where it sits compared to PS4.
Eolz
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No, like most people, she doesn't know about the handheld.
Only things we've heard about so far for it was the possible screen resolution on gaf, and tegra yesterday from semiaccurate. Nothing else.
Edit: mainly because western third parties don't and won't care about the handheld, and that's where the leaks usually come from.
Edit2 @ MuchoMalo :
She's a good writer, just not when it comes to tech details.
Proelite
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My mathetically correct intepretation of her words, assuming that she means what said literally.
Suppose these are the general power levels.
PS4k is a 20
Ps4 is 10
Xb1 is 6.
NX is closer to Xb1 than Ps4.
That could mean Nx is 5 or 7.
But that would be stretching according to her.
So 4, 6 or 8?
Can cross out 8 since thats in the middle, why not just start with middle / somewhere in the middle to begin with. Like wise, can cross out 6.
4 is closer to 6 than 10. It doesn't compete with a 20.
/shrug.
Proelite
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Anything below 6 is closer to 6 than to 10. Maybe NX is -∞ in terms of power.
Why are you assuming she wrote it perfectly?
Proelite
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Whats the numbers on disappointed people setting themselves up come NX launch?
Now use the same logic with 6 and 20 instead of 6 and 10. Or using decimals.
/throws back mike
If she would have written it perfectly this discussion wouldn't take place.
WiiredShawn
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spazchicken
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All I can do is shake my head at Nintendo.
Let me run it for a while. I couldn't do any worse. As a matter of fact, I call all of their bad decisions that they later end up correcting with the next console (while adding another blunder of a decision, of course).
Let me run it for a while. I couldn't do any worse. As a matter of fact, I call all of their bad decisions that they later end up correcting with the next console (while adding another blunder of a decision, of course).
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
But only on true next gen systems
Stealth_Cobra
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If it's true, sheesh, it's like Nintendo is allergic to good buisness decisions...
You don't kill a console to release another console that's still worse than the competition. It's their one chance to jump start a new generation and to be top dogs in terms of hardware. It's their chance to try to appeal to more devs and to broaden the variety of titles on nintendo platforms.... Guess they are still being the elephant in the room.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctEfzkmq64
You don't kill a console to release another console that's still worse than the competition. It's their one chance to jump start a new generation and to be top dogs in terms of hardware. It's their chance to try to appeal to more devs and to broaden the variety of titles on nintendo platforms.... Guess they are still being the elephant in the room.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctEfzkmq64
This is highly disappointing news if true. Very sad news. A very sad day. Many were expecting Nintendo to not go the COD Infinite Warfare route and listen to what gamers have been asking for. With Neo and Xbox 1.5, Nintendo risks continued alienation in the hardware and multiplatform space. This is going to leave millions of people disappointed who were looking forward to the NX including myself.
This should be no surprise, Nintendo hasn't tried to compete with Sony and MS since the Gamecube 15 years ago.
Even if they tried competing power-wise, how many gamers would switch from Playstation or Xbox?
Probably not many, the only thing that will matter in the end is the 1st party software output (quality + quantity) along with the marketing.
Even if they tried competing power-wise, how many gamers would switch from Playstation or Xbox?
Probably not many, the only thing that will matter in the end is the 1st party software output (quality + quantity) along with the marketing.
93xfan
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Solution: fire their entire hardware division and start from scratch. I don't care if the console is delayed; we don't need another 4-5 years of bad hardware decisions holding them back when their software teams are generally top-notch.
I'm sure the same idots that put USB 2 (not 3) and removed analog triggers on the WiiU are behind this.
I'm sure the same idots that put USB 2 (not 3) and removed analog triggers on the WiiU are behind this.
all this takes me back to "the revolution" days where everybody was doing mental gymnastics to justify how wii was somehow a graphical powerhouse
any reasonable person can deduce it'll be around xbone levels of power... the system probably won't sell at a loss, probably won't launch at over $300, ect. no need to drag this thing out (though dear god how it will)
any reasonable person can deduce it'll be around xbone levels of power... the system probably won't sell at a loss, probably won't launch at over $300, ect. no need to drag this thing out (though dear god how it will)
She wrote it so far from perfectly that it's not even funny. She was more focused on shutting down high hopes and adding spice to the post than on giving accurate information. I wish that someone would call her out on it. She acts like she wants people to focus on games instead of specs, but whenever she talks about specs she leaves a bunch of questions on the table so there's more talk about it. She then goes on to mock people for not just saying that she's right and leaving it at that.
Thus, these debates continue because something unnecessary was included in the article. I think what she was trying to say is that it's on-par, give or take, but she was afraid of sounding too nice and changed up the wording.
Talking about the topic of the thread more than other things we have nothing to go on at the moment? Crazy.
Joelstinton14
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Unless Sony reverses a decision, the PS4.K will not receive exclusive games. So any game that comes out will be in the same ball park as the NX if it does sit in between the two current gen system. The only thing that will stop games appearing on the NX is bad relationships between Nintendo and third parties, or the NX getting off to a really poor start sales wise.
People are really overplaying this.
People are really overplaying this.
E-Cat
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Hay guyz whats goin' on in this... oh
Trying to figure out how close the NX is to the Game&Watch. I've heard its closer to the Gameboy Color than it is the X1.
But it really blows the abacus out of the water.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
So it doesn't matter that it might have sub par graphics as long as it's cheap. Is that it?
So you do admit that PS4 has sub par graphics.
Is this a tweet? A rumour? A 3D printed argument? Too much tech discussion here.
E-Cat
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But even that might be stretching it. Therefore, more comparable to a potato.
Codename NX refers to the next gen platform, in the same way New 3DS and OG 3DS are two different hardware form factors but both belong to the same platform.
The difference is that now we have Wii U and 3DS which make up two distinct platforms, whereas NX will only have one platform, but there will still be a separate portable and stationary SKU.
We don't know about the details, but hopefully they don't half ass it and make sure that when I purchase a physical copy next gen, the cartridge inside will work on both the handheld and console, and that you can seamlessly transfer save files between them. In other words I take Mario Kart 9 with me to uni and play on the handheld, when I get back home I transfer my save to the console and continue gameplay there.
It's not being competitive, it's cheap hardware leading to instances like this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...t-developer-calls-the-wii-u-cpu-horrible-slow
Yes, to him. People have different desires, and not everyone would prefer a PS4k-killer if it means that it's expensive. Shocking, I know. Crazy how we live in a world where not everyone wants the same things!
SuperMetalDave64/Trev already called her out twice:
Nintendo NX "insiders" wasting your time
Nintendo NX Not Polaris and Low Specs?
The first video caused one of the main rumor folks to have a total meltdown on twitter, which was pretty funny.
I think Trev's probably a little too hung up the console having to be AMD, but he makes pretty good points, as usual.
Trev has said that PS4 Neo won't get a Polaris because Polaris is too power efficient and that's why it must be NX who gets it. That's how fixated on Polaris he is.
Everybody going nuts with Polaris. And all because 10k.
Wii U hardware certainly wasn't cheap, otherwise they wouldn't have sold it at a loss for 18 months. And no, the gamepad wasn't the only reason. The MCM was expensive too.
Eolz
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Trev also think NX has Polaris and is getting FFXV. He's good but it's another case of "No, I AM the best leaker!".
Lol at 10k if you're saying it's him that had a meltdown.
Proelite
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Most of his spec stuff is speculation that Blu / Thraktor can 4 teraflops better.
If Blue is a 7 and Thraktor is a 9 then Trev is a 3.
10k is -5
Eolz
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Is that a stretch to say that they could do 6?
Edit: lol too late, you edited it and made it better.
Always-honest
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It'l be fine considering the awesome games they made for WiiU.
But i was hoping for more. Won't lie.
But i was hoping for more. Won't lie.
Proelite
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He is closer to Blu than Thraktor.
You're stretching things quite a bit to say that this another Wii U based on this info. The CPU is likely faster than Xbone's, and with the GPU in the same ballpark (pending Emily clearing up her wording), it wouldn't be a repeat of that at all. Also, Wii U's hardware wasn't cheap; it was old. the value was poor just because they wanted super low power consumption and backwards compatibility.
Trev is too busy going full-fanboy for her to take him seriously. I want someone to call her out directly. To her face. She gets a few things right and it all goes to her head. She needs a slice of humble pie so she can chill out a bit and ONLY report on what she hears without adding in extra information, her opinions, or even things that straight-up made up.
Yes you can play
Despite what upper their management says, I think Nintendo artists and designers could use the extra juice to make even better games. So I think there is value in it being more powerful, and that has nothing to do with third parties.
In general, I'm fine with it as long as it is cheaper. That is necessarily not the case as Nintendo could be using budget to make it smaller and less power efficient. Something they still talk about to this day despite Western gamers not giving two shits about it. I don't want to have to pay extra for that 'feature.'
To avoid such unfortunate events, they will send devkits just to devs who behave well. /jk
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