I'm guessing ESRAM bank on new hardware for old gamesI'm curious on how well they have solved(?) ESRAM emulation. How 'iterative' will it really be. Will discs still be shared with XB1?
Motion controlswhy would microsoft bother with VR? it doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon.
It's really interesting because the counter to that would be when scorpion launches it will be 50% more powerful than the neo and will then be unchallenged for several years while Sony rushes the ps5.
When "generations" start to lose meaning I wonder what that does for first mover advantage.
Look at what I quoted for context on my message.I'd imagine Sony wouldn't care about the 50% more powerful kick from Scorpio if they are about their business as usual. Why get into a pissing contest with MS if you already have the lead and maintain it?
It's really interesting because the counter to that would be when scorpion launches it will be 50% more powerful than the neo and will then be unchallenged for several years while Sony rushes the ps5.
But the majority of Neo sales will come from the Holiday 2017 season, when the Scorpio comes out.Yup.
But that 8-12 months on the market by itself provides NEO with enough time to potentially to pick up enough steam among the core/casual crowds and get the ball rolling. It will be a success if Sony prices it right and if AAA games actually take advantage of the Neo Mode that's to be included in every game.
Wii caliber success.
Some truth there no doubt. But Ms were neck andneck (ish) with Sony end of last gen and ahead for a chunk of it so the customer base is clearly there if they get the rest right. And Imo being the best console to play gta6, rdr2, cod 8447833 is a the best starting point.As long as MS continues to be a non-factor in 2/3 of the world. due to reasons apart from power, they have no first mover advantage any way you split the timeframe of "gens".
Look at what I quoted for context on my message.
And who cares about Sony, the gaming public (at least those who are vocal on gaf) have *clearly* said trololol 900p box to Xbox for a significant proportion.
So you end up with this weird old situation where the scorpion<->neo gap is bigger than the ps4<->xbone gap. Assuming everything runs at 1080p that could be the difference between a 40ish fps game on neo and a 60 on scorpion. Would be huge.
As long as MS continues to be a non-factor in 2/3 of the world. due to reasons apart from power, they have no first mover advantage any way you split the timeframe of "gens".
Power is probably the last reason why PS4 is winning the console war. This narrative really only exists on forums.
But the majority of Neo sales will come from the Holiday 2017 season, when the Scorpio comes out.
Only the most hardcore will get it this November, casuals will probably go for the even cheaper PS4. Spring 2017 will probably have very, very little steam for a full launch priced console, and by summer Scorpio will have been announced and people will wait for holiday deals and bundles.
I'm sure it's been brought up repeatedly, but the Neo and the Scorpio should totally be called PlayStation and Xbox, as with every successive hardware revision after they release.
RIP PS4k
The one thing I'm happy about is Microsoft's commitment to PC. I can essentially just upgrade to a GTX 1070 and essentially have an unofficial Xbox.
Same.
If they can get Scalebound on PC, then I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Sounds like they were caught off guard again by Sony and now they're scrambling to match them but will be late.
Hence the 8-12 month window.
NEO launches ~12 months before Scorpio if Sony launches it this Fall.
NEO launches ~8 months before Scorpio if Sony launches Spring 2017.
Either way, they're gonna have the market to themselves for a significant period of time, completely unchallenged.
Unless...NX proves to be a worthwhile wildcard.
Just woke up to this.
Is 6TF the number they were told or are they applying special sauce Polygon maths for 1.32x4 ?
Gaming sure is becoming an expensive hobby (as it wasn't expensive enough already).
number they heard from the source.
Priiiiiiiice being the number one reason to start with. Then shitty introduction, then power.
I could see this easily backfiring.... Neo is already a iffy thing but if the price is what PS4 launched with and it does come out this year. It only puts Sony in a better position... Hear me out PS4K in 2016 $399 people buy it with a year advantage over Microsoft. Microsoft announces new Xbox 6 times more powerful most likely around $499 price tag with those specs (great) the problem is it'll leave them in a weird spot. Sony's new hardware has a year advantage on the market and then they have the advantage of releasing a PS5 more powerful than the new Xbox at the same price or cheaper in a possible 2017 or 2018 release. So from the time the new Xbox is out Sony will have the advantage of new hardware a year early and the advantage of announcing PS5 while the new Xbox is hitting.
Did you forget being a kid?
The Amiga vs Atari ST power struggle at my school was dividing. No one except parents gave a shit about price.
It's releasing a year later. The 30% power increase seems to be in line with normal GPU advancement.I dont see how this will not be significantly more expensive than ps4k if true. Which will matter a lot.
We cant forget how many digital foundry topics go up and all of us talk about power and what % ps4 is stronger compared to Xbox
Would they really be ending the PS4 > Xbone narrative if the base models continue to drive the console market?
500$ PS4K VS 700$ XBoxS
Sony wins again.
Hence the 8-12 month window.
NEO launches ~12 months before Scorpio if Sony launches it this Fall.
NEO launches ~8 months before Scorpio if Sony launches Spring 2017.
Either way, they're gonna have the market to themselves for a significant period of time, completely unchallenged.
Unless...NX proves to be a worthwhile wildcard.
The Slim version will assuredly be accompanied with a price drop.
The floodgates of the hardware rumors really opened today, huh?
I'm doubtful, my gut tells me the two systems will be fairly comparable. It seems like everyone wants to think the XB1+ will be stronger than the PS4K simply to pull a 180 on the power gap this gen.
As long as both of the systems are powerful and comparable, I'll be happy.
Some truth there no doubt. But Ms were neck andneck (ish) with Sony end of last gen and ahead for a chunk of it so the customer base is clearly there if they get the rest right. And Imo being the best console to play gta6, rdr2, cod 8447833 is a the best starting point.
What if the slim console is actually a base station and from there u add on parts???