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[aly]

Sharon got hit the hardest by having her scenes cut or given to Black Widow. I did'nt care for the kiss but people are making a bigger deal out of it than it needs to be. Peggy move on and Steve was kind of interested in Sharon before knowing he was the niece of the woman he flirted with at one time in his life.

That said, Peggy was the superior girl.

Lmao at that pic though.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Disagree, the problem is, in the MCU, it was too early for them to kiss, they have barely interacted, just a few scenes in Winter Soldier, and in that very same movie, Steve is shown to be constantly visiting Peggy, from what we saw in the movies, Peggy was still Steve's love interest.

Then comes Civil War, Peggy dies and a little time later he kisses Sharon? A woman he has not had enough time to develop a relationship with? After Peggy died? it feels unnatural and forced, a kiss would have made sense for an hypothetical 4th CA movie, where they could potentially develop their relationship, "but it's his girlfriend in the comics" doesn't mean anything if we haven't seen that relationship blossom in the movies.

Fair point and I agree. They did fuck all to develop their relationship, and they could have done a lot of work on it. Something as simple as Sharon being at that party during AOU would have been great. It's like near all MCU romances, they just happen without much build up. I won't argue it's well-developed, but at the same time half of the arguments against it always have the weakest of excuses.

He did already develop feelings for her when she was his neighbor and it's implied they spent time together during the two years between WS and CW. Hell for people acting like Sharon moved in on the man who dated her great-aunt, Steve is the one who asks her out and kisses her first.

is she mad cause her show got canceled?

Peggy's show and then Peggy herself did die in the span of the same week I believe. She has flashbacks to rely on at least.

 

[zeemumu]

I mean it's not like he danced with her or anything...

 

[Revolutionary]

Yeah I gotta admit it the timing of it kinda rubbed me the wrong way too. I thought the relationship in the first movie was great so it was a bit disappointing to just see it swept under the rug with a 'whelp, she's dead now so on to the next one' attitude.

The nodding was funny though.

 

[kidtamagotchi]

Disagree, the problem is, in the MCU, it was too early for them to kiss, they have barely interacted, just a few scenes in Winter Soldier, and in that very same movie, Steve is shown to be constantly visiting Peggy, from what we saw in the movies, Peggy was still Steve's love interest.

Then comes Civil War, Peggy dies and a little time later he kisses Sharon? A woman he has not had enough time to develop a relationship with? After Peggy died? it feels unnatural and forced, a kiss would have made sense for an hypothetical 4th CA movie, where they could potentially develop their relationship, "but it's his girlfriend in the comics" doesn't mean anything if we haven't seen that relationship blossom in the movies.

But didn't Steve say he and Sharon had a relationship on the down low?

 

[PSqueak]

What is this? Some girls have sex on the first date... Whats wrong with a little kiss? This isn't a romance movie...

Does that sound for the kind of girl a goody two shoes from 1940 would go for?

Nonsexual love among men exists.

Yes, that's exactly why i used the world love even tho as of now cap is not gay, im just saying that the fact that he already loves bucky in a non sexual way would make the move easier to swallow.

Cap and Sharon have "sparks" in Winter Soldier, which took place a couple years before Civil War. When they actually do kiss, Cap is like "sorry that took so long", because those two have known each other and danced around those feelings for a while.

We didn't really see that develop on screen, sure, but we didn't see Natasha/Banner develop on screen either.

That's true, it could have happened off screen, but that's why it felt weird, because we didn't see that happen.

Also of note, didn't people have a tremendous backlash against the BW/Banner romance?

But didn't Steve say he and Sharon had a relationship on the down low?

Frankly, i don't remember, my memory can be shitty so i admit this is a possibility.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

Totally agree.

I don't care that Steve moved on from Peggy, he should have. But moving on to her great niece or whatever is just stupid. Just make a new girl. Why make them related? It just seems like such a...I dunno, a comic booky thing.

 

[Blackage]

Falcon & Bucky's back and forth in this movie was great. I swear everyone has those 2 friends that are loyal as shit to you, but can't stand each other if you put them in a room together.

 

[kirblar]

Agent Carter: Season 3

Starring Emily VanCamp

But didn't Steve say he and Sharon had a relationship on the down low?

Nah, there was just clearly some interest that neither could act on when she was undercover.

 

[Ahasverus]

One of the biggest sins of the MCU was rubbing Cap's relationship with Peggy under the rug in TWS/CW. You'd think he'd try to be with her the most he could after his romantic affair with her, his time collide and the loss of all his friends. But nope. A single sick bed visit and a funeral. So much for true love.

Him going with her niece was the cherry on a cruel cake.

 

[old manatee]

Every single character in the MCU seems like a virgin. There is nothing sexy about any of those movies.

 

[Fuu]

 

[Jest Chillin]

Disagree, the problem is, in the MCU, it was too early for them to kiss, they have barely interacted, just a few scenes in Winter Soldier, and in that very same movie, Steve is shown to be constantly visiting Peggy, from what we saw in the movies, Peggy was still Steve's love interest.

Then comes Civil War, Peggy dies and a little time later he kisses Sharon? A woman he has not had enough time to develop a relationship with? After Peggy died? it feels unnatural and forced, a kiss would have made sense for an hypothetical 4th CA movie, where they could potentially develop their relationship, "but it's his girlfriend in the comics" doesn't mean anything if we haven't seen that relationship blossom in the movies.

Calling Old Peggy Steve's love interest is rather strong. She obviously occupies a special place in his heart but love interest? Nah.

Steve and Sharon knew each other enough that he had talked to Widow about her, which is why Widow brings her up and encourages Steve to take her out. He had to have been somewhat interested to warrant that exchange to begin with.

It's true that we didn't see it on screen but how much screen time are they really going to devote to any love interest in ensemble movies, which is what TWS and CW ultimately were?

 

[Sheroking]

That's true, it could have happened off screen, but that's why it felt weird, because we didn't see that happen.

Also of note, didn't people have a tremendous backlash against the BW/Banner romance?

It definitely happened off-screen.

There wasn't a backlash against the Widow/Banner romance itself, but against one scene where Widow tearfully admitted to Banner that she was broken, mentioning that she couldn't have kids. People saw that as sexist.

Of course, she told him that in response to HIM telling her that he was broken and couldn't have kids - so that criticism was stupid as fuck.

 

[PSqueak]

Of course, she told him that in response to HIM telling her that he was broken and couldn't have kids - so that criticism was stupid as fuck.

Yeah, it was weird to see people think of it as BW showing weakness because "she couldn't be a woman" because, basically this is how i read the scene:

Banner: "Im so sad because i'll never be able to live a normal life and be a father and i would drag down any woman who would want to be with me waaaaah!"

Natasha: "S'okay bro, i can't have kids either, i can be with you."

 

[Escape Goat]

Peggy and Steve had one kiss? Come on, Peggy. There was no deep love here. Also, Steve had been unfrozen for a couple years. It was time to move on.

 

[KevinCow]

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[SeanC]

 

[NomarTyme]

I side with Peggy on this! Its was awkward and shoe in.

 

[LucidMomentum]

I side with Peggy on this! Its was awkward and shoe in.

Heh.

Spoiler

It's canon.

C'mon Haley / Peggy, don't put a second relationship for Steve on ice.

Your boy deserves something in life, at least.

 

[water_wendi]

One of the biggest sins of the MCU was rubbing Cap's relationship with Peggy under the rug in TWS/CW. You'd think he'd try to be with her the most he could after his romantic affair with her, his time collide and the loss of all his friends. But nope. A single sick bed visit and a funeral. So much for true love.

Him going with her niece was the cherry on a cruel cake.

i got the impression that he visited her all the time but she just forgot him each time. How many scenes like that do they need to actually show?

 

[Applebite]

I got a very "Look guys, he's not gay!" vibe from that whole thing. The only good thing that came out of it was the reaction from Falcon and WS. Falcon in general was just great in that movie though, Anthony Mackie has so much charm.

 

[MisterHero]

I wanted a scene with Peggy watching the Battle of New York when Cap appears.

They should've done more with Old Peggy.

but she already said goodbye on Agent Carter. I should watch Season 2.

 

[torre_avenue]

Dude kissed his true love's niece less than 24 hours after said love's funeral.

Cap didn't even grieve Peggy for a decent time before getting to first base with her relative.

 

[Septimus Prime]

He's from a different time.

 

[devilhawk]

I don't have an issue with the pairing. It happening immediately after the funeral was the weird part.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

We didn't really see that develop on screen, sure, but we didn't see Natasha/Banner develop on screen either.

Yeah the romantic plots in all the Avengers films are pretty shit.

 

[NobleXenon]

Weird, i have seen a lot of people complain about it, and me and my friends disliked it too (until the nod bit because that was hilarious), it was pretty badly written even by super hero movie standards, it's practically the only thing the movie dropped the ball on.

Same with my friends and I. It was a classic case of the not-gays.

It would have been more organic if Steve and Bucky kissed that Steve and Sharron. xD

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

I love how this scene basically sums up their relationship with Steve.

Bucky is happy for his friend with the context of everything he has been through.
Sam, who didn't know Steve or Peggy, is all "yasssss boy".

 

[Einchy]

I side with Peggy on this! Its was awkward and shoe in.

I mean, it was set up during 2 movies, it's not like it was a new thing.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

It's not even like Sharon is Peggy's descendent. She's Peggy's BROTHER's descendent. Not that icky.

Ooooooooooooooh. Ok, I thought she was Peggy's daughter. Not creepy at all I guess.

 

[andythinkpad]

I was under the impression Cap hooked up with Black Widow.

Or Black Widow doesn't count?

 

[NomarTyme]

I mean, it was set up during 2 movies, it's not like it was a new thing.

It was a timing thing for me.

 

[carlsojo]

It came off as creepy to be honest. :/

 

[cdyhybrid]

It did seem a bit awkward/rushed in the movie, but it was worth it for the Sam/Bucky .gif!

 

[Aurongel]

I actually winced when it happened. Who the fuck thought the audience would buy a kiss with someone who could almost be his granddaughter within days of his former love's funeral?

I actually liked Civil War quite a bit but holy shit was that tone deaf.

 

[NHarmonic.]

This would be about a thousand times more interesting and better recieved than hydra cap.

But yeah, the scene was forced, awkward, uncharacteristic of steve and overall unpleasant, only saved by falcon and bucky giving him the nod.



This would also made more sense than steve being okay with kissing his former girlfriend's grand daughter.

It's easier to shallow that he would come out as gay for a person he had loved since he was a child than instantly going for a younger version of his literally just deceased girlfriend.

I agree with this. I felt they had a lot more chemistry than cap and the woman, not even kidding. But lol, imagine the meltdowns.

 

[Dabanton]

I don't have an issue with the pairing. It happening immediately after the funeral was the weird part.

Yeah that was wild. It was like cap knowing she was peggy's niece turned him on.

 

[ZeroX03]

They shoved a kiss into Winter Soldier too, with Black Widow for a joke. It's just a prerequisite for all superhero movies I guess.

 

[G-Fex]

We all know Cap wants the brown sugar

old guy from WW2 isn't ready for dominatrixes



Anyway, Cap/bucky fans are just as nuts as Supernatural fans tbh

 

[BobLoblaw]

I actually winced when it happened. Who the fuck thought the audience would buy a kiss with someone who could almost be his granddaughter within days of his former love's funeral?

I actually liked Civil War quite a bit but holy shit was that tone deaf.

Why wince? Was he ever romantically involved with Carter? Based on what I remember (CA:TFA was ugh), I don't think he even saw Carter as more than just a friend or infatuation. The kiss was build up from the previous movie. It's not like it just came without any history.

 

[Escape Goat]

I actually winced when it happened. Who the fuck thought the audience would buy a kiss with someone who could almost be his granddaughter within days of his former love's funeral?

I actually liked Civil War quite a bit but holy shit was that tone deaf.

At what point is it established Peggy and Steve were in love? Even at the end of The First Avenger Peggy and Steves goodbye seems like not much has transpired between them. Especially when you look at that kiss he gives her before jumping onto Skulls plane. Its like it was the first time.

 

[Luigi87]

While they were kind of setting it up since Winter Soldier, I agree with Hayley Atwell.

It bothered me when the two kissed, especially after he found out Sharon's relationship to Peggy.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Dating your childhood crush's descendant? That sounds like something Hydra would do.

 

[mdubs]

To be fair I don't have a hard time imagining a woman wanting to kiss Chris Evans/Steve Rogers a few minutes after meeting him. Sharon can get it.

For real tho, like I'd kiss Steve Rogers too

 

[YoYo Switch]

i hated it too

 

[The Artisan]

MCU ain't the comics.

MCU lore didn't come outta thin air

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Can't call dibs on someone you haven't even kissed. I sense no bro code violation by Sharon.

 

[X05]

is that a fucking head in the left corner?

Why do you think Falcon is smiling?

Hahaha my boyfriend was so angry about it. He's gonna love this.

I'm okay with Steve moving on but I don't know how you move on from the perfection that is Hayley Atwell.

Truth.

Agent Carter: Season 3

Starring Emily VanCamp


Nah, there was just clearly some interest that neither could act on when she was undercover.

You know, I thought they might do this at some point.

 

[DoctorFling]

Oh no a superhero kissed his love interest

Somebody think of the children